Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Mets - 09/05/09

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Game One Hundred Thirty-Four: Cubs (67-66) vs. Mets (61-74)
Game Time - 12:10pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 175
Location - CitiField, Flushing, New York

Rich Harden (8-8, 4.19/1.29) vs. Nelson Figueroa (2-3, 4.50/1.66)

Lou Piniella's crew enters play this afternoon just a game above .500 once again. A loss against the Mets today would mark the 21st time this season the Cubs have as many wins as losses.

Derrek Lee is expected back in the starting lineup after missing back-to-back games due to the birth of his second child. It is also time for Lou Piniella to use Andres Blanco at short. The Cubs must find out if Blanco can hit Major League pitching over the last 29 games of the season. While Ryan Theriot has turned himself into a solid big leaguer, the Cubs should consider moving him to second base next season and finding a shortstop.

Bobby Scales rejoined the team on Friday and recorded one of the Cubs' nine hits. With Scales back, there is no reason whatsoever for Aaron Miles to play another game with the Cubs.

Today it all begins with Rich Harden and not mailing in the rest of the season ...

Rich Harden is coming off by far his worst outing of the second half. Harden labored through five innings against the Astros and gave up a season-high six walks (one short of this career-high). Harden's line, a very unbelievable five runs on five hits in five innings with six walks and nine strikeouts.

Rich Harden may be nearing the end of his Cubs' career. Harden is a free agent at the end of the year. With the Cubs' ownership soon switching hands no one knows at this point how much the Cubs' front office will have to spend on next year's team. Right now ten players will eat up nearly $116 million of 2010's payroll.

Rich Harden is 5-2 in ten road starts this year with a 2.02 ERA and a 1.11 WHIP. Today will be his first game against the Mets this season. He does not have a record in two career games, one start. In seven innings of work against the Metropolitans, Harden has allowed three runs, two earned, on two hits with five walks and six strikeouts (2.57 ERA and a 1.11 WHIP).

  • Luis Castillo - 0-for-2
  • Jeff Francoeur - 0-for-5
  • Anderson Hernandez - 0-for-2
  • Daniel Murphy - 0-for-3
  • Jeremy Reed - 3-for-9 with 2 walks
  • Gary Sheffield - 4-for-15 with a double, a home run and a walk
  • David Wright - no official at bat, 2 walks

The last time the Cubs faced Nelson Figueroa they allowed him to have one of the best outings of his big league career. Last Sunday at Wrigley, Figueroa set a new career high in strikeouts (10) as the Cubs began swinging away at the remainder of the schedule.

Nelson Figueroa has won only two games this season ... and one of them came last Sunday at Carlos Zambrano and the Cubs' expense.

The Cubs must make Figueroa work today.

Figueroa is 1-2 in seven home games this season, two starts, with a 6.87 ERA and a 2.02 WHIP.

  • Milton Bradley - 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Mike Fontenot - 1-for-3
  • Jake Fox - 0-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Sam Fuld - no official at bat, 1 walk
  • Derrek Lee - 3-for-15 with a home run and 2 walks
  • Aaron Miles - 0-for-1
  • Aramis Ramirez - 5-for-12 with a double, a home run and 2 walks
  • Alfonso Soriano - 0-for-1
  • Geovany Soto - 0-for-4
  • Ryan Theriot - 1-for-4

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Neil

    Solid win today. Good to see Ramirez and Lee hit on the road.

  • JimK

    Heck yes we can win one once in a while. Familiar names stepped up today: ARAM, DLEE, Harden, DLEE and Marmol.

  • JimK

    Forget the walk and repeated foul balls. There was never a d'd'd'd'doubt.



    His control can be scary, but Carlos is fearless.

  • Neil

    Marmol got out of it ... not pretty but effective.

  • JimK

    Grabow isn't "routine" in the eighth, and Marmol will have to get the third out to preserve the lead.

  • JimK

    Have I ever left the impression that I really like DLee??? We have our two run lead back--with 6 outs to go.

  • JimK

    Grabow gets the third out routinely, but Heilman gives up a run in a poor performance. It seems like we can always find a way to step in the meadow muffins this year.

  • Neil

    Another monster shot for Dylan by DLee!

  • Boseph Heyden

    They'll be cheering him pretty soon.

  • cubbie12

    if heilman or gregg get resigned im not a cubs fan anymore

  • Neil

    Gregg will not be back but Heilman is under the Cubs' control for one more year (arbitration eligible). Aaron Heilman is not a free agent at the end of the year.



    I would like to see him traded to a team in need of a fifth starter. Maybe Seattle, they traded for him once.

  • JimK

    Our improving pen DOES NOT INCLUDE HEILMAN AND GREGG. What is Lou thinking pitching those guys in games we can win!!! Damn!!!!

  • Neil

    Heilman falls behind 3-1 then gives up a single. Ball one to Pagan ...

  • Neil

    Heilman was booed by the Mets fans

  • JimK

    Nice inning by Gorzelany. The walk came after two or three 3-2 foul balls.

  • GaryLeeT

    I can't believe that even for Harden, throwing 120 pitches in a game is over using them. I would have let Harden throw 14-16 more pitches in the 7th.

  • Neil

    They always keep him around 100 pitches. That is one of the reasons I do not think they can sign him for more than three years ... two would be better without a no-trade clause included.

  • JimK

    As you know, the rap on Harden is that his arm or shoulder is fragile. I don't know if that rap is still deserved, but the pen gets ready when he approaches 100 pitches. Like you, I always get anxious when our pen has a 3 or 4 inning challenge. But we seem to be developing a solid pen.

  • JimK

    Harden's 10 SO's are very impressive. So is the performance of Baker. He's now up to .300. Let's hope the Amen Pen becomes the Hallelujah Chorus today.

  • cubbie12

    neil do you agree when healthy harden has the most dominant stuff on the team? do u think we will resign him?

  • Neil

    When healthy Harden is lights out. I would take Ted Lilly over him right now with Wells third.



    I cannot get a feel if they will re-sign him or not. It really depends on when the Ricketts Family gets control.



    I would not go longer than three years for Harden.

  • Neil

    DLEEE!!!! 2-run blast!

  • JimK

    The Red Sox had another starter get rocked last night--rekindling my latest trade whimsy to get younger and free up some budget. Z, Gaub and a prospect like Carpenter (RHP) going to the Red Sox for Matsuzaka (Dice K), Buchholz, Doubront (AA LHP) and Ryan Kalish (OF L/L. Z gives the Red Sox three stud starters. Dice K is re-habbing, is 29 and is owed $28 mil over 3. We save $27 mil of Z's deal over 3. Dice K and Buchholz would repace Z and Harden (saving the latter's $7 mil). Doubront could be a solid replacement for Lilly in a year or two.



    Bradley would probably go next and I would still be looking for a SS with better range and some pop. As for the rest of us, it all looks doable from here.



    DLee is just one fine ballplayer. Another dinger and two more RBI's.

  • Patrick

    Anyone think we should trade Lee this offseason? He's at his top trade value, in the last year of his contract next year, and is aging.

  • GaryLeeT

    I would imagine it would take a deal similar to Dempster's. I think any team with future championship aspirations would need a strikeout pitcher that can shut down even the best offense. After watching Harden for 2 years I am fairly confident that he can remain fairly healthy.

  • Neil

    Gary, way too much for Harden. Paul Sullivan mentioned similar numbers as you but Olney thinks 3 and $30. Still too much.



    The Cubs have a lot of money locked into their staff and unless they unload one or two, they cannot tie up another $10 - $12 million in a starter.

  • GaryLeeT

    I don't think you can assume Ricketts will not increase payroll.

  • Neil

    I really like the Mets' rookie catcher's approach at the plate. Chocked up on the bat and went the other way with the pitch.



    I wonder if the Cubs paid attention.

  • JimK

    DLee and ARAM are quiet alpha dogs, but they produce. Some excellent players aren't into being angry and (maybe) a team needs a bull-prod personality. We don't have one.



    I like your two and $18 for Harden, Neil, and I wonder if the money will be available. Last offseason, we made convoluted moves to deal with the budget--and "fixed" what wasn't broken. The opposite could happen this offseason.

  • Neil

    ARAMIS WITH A HOMER!

  • JimK

    I too would love to have Harden back, but I think it takes something like a trade of Z to have a shot at that. My guess on what it would take to keep him is about 3 years and $25 mil. If this were two or three years ago, he might get five or six mil more.



    I'm a little pre-occupied today, but I see that we are down 1 zip. I'm pretty deep into an online tutorial on how to make warm mammals that can swing a baseball bat out of sows' ears.

  • Neil

    Jim ... Too Much Good Stuff



    Three and $25 is the most I would go with Harden...two and $18 would give him a nice raise.

  • Neil

    Bad at bat by Theriot...

  • GaryLeeT

    I know it's been said here before by many, but the first off-season move by the Cubs better be resigning Harden.

  • Neil

    Gary, how long and how much for Harden?

  • Neil

    Good to see they changed their approach against Figueroa ... 12 stikeouts for a horrible pitcher so far against the Cubs this season.

  • Gramps

    Really? Really? Do we want to see a 33-year-old rookie in left field?

  • Gramps

    How about:



    Fuld - LF

    Theriot - 2B

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Bradley - RF

    Fukudome - CF

    Soto - C

    Blanco - SS

    Harden - P



    Get Theriot ready for 2B next year. Put some speed at the top of the lineup. Get a shortstop that can field the position. C'mon Lou....you have lost me as a big fan!

  • Neil

    Right there with you Gramps. I do not understand Scales in left at all.

  • Neil

    Today's lineup:



    Fukudome - CF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Bradley - RF

    Baker - 2B

    Scales - LF

    Hill - C

    Harden - P



    Confusing, as usual.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park, IL)

    For whatit is worth...



    The window of oppurtunity for this club is now closed. There is not one player on this team or in the minors that you can call untouchable. For as great as Aramis Ramirez has been where was he the last 6 playoff games? Derek Lee? No question our 2009 MVP. His trade value will never be higher. Zambrano? Fukudome?

    All have no trade clauses and All should be persuaded to O.K. any deal to move on.

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