I think he dozed off in the middle of it.

:-)

"Look, you gotta give the kid some credit..." excuse for terrible hitting.

Then he answered one more meaningless question, don't even remember it and it was over.

It was seriously under 3 minutes and not because he stormed out PO'd. I think everyone involved is so numb that no one cares at all any more.

can anyone please summarize the postgame interview with Lou?

I didn't see the game, but sense from the commentary here that Soriano wasn't quite stellar today.

And just think boys and girls, just 5 more years of him in LF. Way to go JH!

and now my favorite part of the games lately...the postgame show.

Jim Memilo is as utterly disgusted as we are. And here comes Lou...

It blows my mind to think that this team is still hovering around .500 the way they have played all season. Is the rest of the league that bad to make this pathetic team actually win half of their games?

You know what else I don't understand....Why hasn't one of those beat writers asked Lou this question at any point during the year:

Why the F**k do you keep putting Soriano in the lineup day after day day after day, when he is clearly hurt and killing the team ???????

It's a moot point now, cause the season is over.

But has anyone ever heard that question posed to grandpa Lou in a press conference ?

I have not.

Well, there's an old expression: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I think Lou is senile.

boy o boy

wow...that has to be the ugliest performance I've seen in a long long time.....Soriano, flailing away at 3 straight pitches not even close to the zone tells me he's mailed it in.....Why then is Hendry and Piniella still allowing him to play?!?

I just don't see any possible way that Soriano and Bradley can exist on the Northside next year....tell me if I'm wrong....but, if they come back, you just have this feeling that the fans will start throwing bottles and stuff at them, because they are downright awful. What a horrible team. I'm embarrassed to call myself a fan of this shit

I see Soriano amd Bradley struck in the 9th.

Gee, who would have thought ?

yet another game Lou has lost this year....when the White Sox had their big inning in the 8th, Soriano should've been out of the game, like Lou has done before, and put in Fuld. Then, when Theriot came up gimpy, the prudent move to do would be to bring in Blanco.

Lou, and the entire organization has fell asleep at the wheel this year, and I gotta tell you guys. I'm a diehard fan, but it's making it really tough to be a fan of this team this year, and as the old saying goes...it's not about wins or losses. It's about how you win, and how you lose that make all the difference.

Even our wins this year haven't been pretty, and the losses sure haven't. How does this not have an effect on who stays and who goes next year.

Something tells me that Ricketts is a sucker...just call it a hunch...I think everything remains the same next year. Kenney and Hendry will be around, Piniella stays, and 95% of the team stays....doesn't that make you feel all fuzzy inside?

I am cynical enough to believe that Lou send Miles out there at the end of this utterly pathetic offensive display of ineptitude exactly to rub Hendry's nose in it. It's like when your dog pisses on the carpet.

Re: the Brenly comments; I love him too. But you know this kind of talk isn't winning him any points toward being the next manager, at least not if Hendry sticks out his terms. The beauty of BB's comments, about Milton and today about Sori, is that he is criticizing management as much as the player. NOW, if Ricketts comes in and has some closed door fully confidential meetings, and determines what we all know (LOL), that Hendry is a fool, then maybe then BB has a chance of moving from the booth to the bench. He is close to treading on Stoney territory though.

LOL...I love mlb.tv, you can hear Brenly and Kasper off the air...here's what Brenly said just FYI to those that don't have mlb.tv:

"this is just horrible....(laughs, kind of uneasily)...I don't want my fingerprints on this shit"

"I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it" - Ron Santo

Neil...you'll also love this...we both probably love it....because we both called it in the offseason, like, "Hendry, you're a moron, what are you thinking"

Casey McGehee just hit a bomb off Smoltz today, and now has the following line:

263 AB's, .300 avg, .360 OBP, .513 SLG, 79 hits, 47 runs, 15 doubles, 1 triple, 13 hr, 49 RBI

Bradley: 352 AB's, .267 avg, .395 OBP, .420 SLG, 94 hits, 58 runs, 16 doubles, 1 triple, 12 hr, 37 RBI

Soriano: 476 AB's, .242 avg, .303 OBP, .424 SLG, 115 hits, 64 runs, 25 doubles, 1 triple, 20 hr, 55 RBI

I know I've lamented Hendry's decision, but dropping McGehee when we had like 6 or 7 spots on the 40-man roster, and no back-up 3B with experience like he had....it had to have been one of the worst decisions ever...even worse than trading DeRosa

I agree with that.....McGehee and DeRosa together made zero sense.

They have to shore up the defense next year. their defense is horrible. It's absolutely killing them.

All 3 of the Sox runs are unearned.

I only see three minor problems with the Cubs this year.

1. Offense

2. Defense

3. Pitching

Other than that, they're a solid team.

Miles made an out ??

Nooooo ??????

what a shocker

If EVER there was a time the fans should pelt the field with cups and trash it should have been after Soriano's botch...that was just horrible.

Shame we had the crosstown Sox in for the game with a bunch of fans cheering....otherwise Wrigley would have been rocking with boos....

LOL...what'd they expect with Miles....I would've preferred that Piniella do what he did earlier this season, and gone with Zambrano as a pinch hitter...LOL

Hell I would have settled for Ted Lilly!!

PLEASE STOP USING AARON MILES!!!!!!!!

Stevie Wonder would be a better choice than Aaron Miles!!

well atleast the mets are beating the Rockies 4-0

well I'll be damned...a second baseman who actually knows how to wait back for a throw down to second to nab a runner.....he's a keeper...LOL

If Koyie Hill could only hit, he could be wealthy.

for the TV challenged, what happened in LF with our "gold glover" ??

Routine fly to left. Soriano ran over, tried to stop, slipped and the ball went past him.

Pathetic...

You know what ? I totally blame Lou.

Like I said before, how can you keep running him out there, when the guy can't run ??

Mind boggling.

gotta love Brenly's honesty, "nothing out there in LF surprises me anymore...you wonder when they'll pull the plug on Fonsie's season...you could live with his adventures when he was driving the ball out of the park, but he's not adding anything offensively, so..."

I love you Bob Brenly...you speak my conscience

Aaron ... you will love this one.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/09/bob-brenly-on-milton-bradleys-problems.html

Brenly is great! I REALLY would love to see him take a shot with this team as manager.....

What he said is so VERY true. Bradley needs to STFU and play ball. By the way...I'd ask Bradley...if the Wrigley crowd is such a distraction....explain how you hit over .300 at home....yet barely above .200 on the road? Shouldnt you be happy and relaxed on the road without all of us fans? You nimrod.

Neil,

Thank you for that. Is it bad that I got a chuckle out of that as a human being? I mean, I kind of feel bad that I'm glowing in another person's misery, but with the type of person he is, I'm glad he's facing the music. It's unfortunate that Hendry and Kenney had a boner for the guy, because everyone outside of them saw this coming...in my estimation.

It's about time he man's up....but it's the story of the guy who signed him too....if your own boss doesn't man up, then how can you expect your players to man up?!? If Hendry manned up a long time ago...in June at the latest, then we wouldn't be dealing with this garbage. If he allowed Piniella to boot Gregg out of his role, DFA'd Miles, and DFA'd Bradley, AND put Soriano on the DL, there's a very good chance that we would've gone after someone like a Holliday, Dunn, or someone else to fill in for Soriano, and inserted Hoffpauir everyday in RF, which would've been an excellent thing to do, because he's a stand-up guy, and a great teammate.

Have you noticed, by the way, that his biggest two acquisitions of the offseason--Gregg and Bradley--have been nothing but excuse-makers?!? Has anyone else noticed this?

I hate Hendry with a passion

I love it. Someone speaking the truth to the media! Brenly is awesome!

sh!t, I heard that one!

absolutely un-Buh-LIEV-AbLE!! (i'm afraid Ron is gonna jump out of the booth)

Unbelievable!!!!

this is the most pathetic team that I've watched in a long time. When our pitchers are the only ones working counts, and getting hits (seemingly), then we have problems.

Neil, I loved the show last night...listened today, and you guys were dead on...Hendry absolutely has to go. I wonder if it's even hit Hendry yet that the offense is clearly the issue with the team. I think any reasonable GM would've made some changes across the board by now...but, no, not Hendry. We're sitting over 5 months into the season, and the offense still hasn't woken up, and Hendry's fat ass remains in the lazy-boy, waiting for the lineup to...quote..."come alive like we thought when we put this team together"...REALLY?!?

You'd think that if something's broke, you'd fix it. It's like a leaky faucet. You know the sink as a whole is solid, but you have to tighten some things to get it working properly, otherwise your floor will be flooded.

In Hendry's case, he went out and got Gorzelanny and Grabow at the deadline, and declared that he fixed the problem with the team, because, as mentioned above, 4 months into the season, he thought the bats would finally produce, which is totally beyond me why he'd ever think that. Pitching was NOT the problem, and never has been...he tried to fix the sink, when it wasn't broken...it was the leaky pipes that continued to drip, and now we have a situation where we're so far under water, there really isn't any fixing, unless you rip up the entire bathroom to get rid of the flood damage.

Hendry could've EASILY fixed this thing, and it still would've cost him the same money either way. Face it, if we trade Bradley, we'd have to pick up about half his remaining salary, where if he would've cut him earlier as he should, especially after his spat with Piniella, then he wouldn't have reached the AB's necessary to kick in the 3rd year. So, we'd have to pick up his 2nd year, and pay the remainder of this season...but we'd get out of a bad contract, with a bad teammate who absolutely ruined any chemistry we might've had on the team to begin with. With Miles, it's the same thing....he was taking up a valuable roster spot, and couldn't even hit the damn ball out of the infield. What worth does that sort of player have? Might as well play a pitcher at his position, as they've actually proven they can get the ball out of the infield from time to time. I know for a fact Bobby Scales would've done better than him. He already did in half the games.

Again, Hendry and Kenney's egos got in the way of everything, and they completely ruined the season, and it's a damn shame is what it is. They didn't want egg on their face, because they promoted Bradley so hardcore in the offseason as the type of winner that would put us over the top, that if they cut ties with him, it'd be admitting failure. If they'd demoted Gregg earlier, which, if you read between the lines, is EXACTLY what Piniella wanted to do....I believe his exact words were, "you can't give up the longball as a closer, and expect to win ballgames". It was clearly an indication that he was tired of using him, but his hands were tied by Hendry, who, as with Bradley, most likely did not want to look bad, giving up a top pitching prospect for a horrible closer without an "out" pitch, and letting go a Cubs fan favorite in Wood.

It's just so pathetic to watch, and even more pathetic to realize I'm a fan of a team with a GM that flat out does NOT know how to win.

Folks...just think back to 2004 if you need any evidence of how poor of a leader Hendry really is. He let his players run Stone and Caray out of the Cubs booth, and couldn't tell his players to shut up and play the game.

Now, fast forward to this season. He's got an $18 million LF who is playing on one leg, and refusing to go on the DL, thus hurting the team considerably with depth, and all kinds of other issues.

Is it really any surprise when we have the peanut gallery running this team?

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!

Aaron, I am glad you enjoyed the show.

This is so pathetic!! I cant believe they can't score 1fucking run. I don't know how Lou keeps it 2gether. I would have snaped and taken a bat to someone's head(soriano)

soriano strikes out once again, of course

So I am just sort of listening to the game at work and not really paying much attention - not much reason to really - but what did Alfonso do now?

This offense is SOOO PATHETIC! I am going to scream my head off everytime I hear or read someone talk the WC chances...they can't hit AAA pitching!!!@@@ The White Sox are an awful team!

Dear god!

JimK, if I was closer than 1500 miles away, I'd be there drinking red beers at noon and kissing this season goodbye in style.

Remember last week when Pat Misch lowered his ERA by .60 in one game vs. the Cubs? Carlos Torres has lowered his by 2.2 so far. If this continues, and it very possibly could since he's only 69 pitches in, he'll have lowered his ERA from horrible reliever status to AL star pitcher status.

No patience whatsoever today. Playing right into Torres. Just horrible approach at the plate all the way around...no walks

Only two 3-ball counts belong to Ryan Dempster

Come on offense. Time to get some runs!

LET'S GO OFFENSE! LET'S GO!!!!

Man Soriano sucks. Why will they not let him rest? If his knee is bothering him, what is the point at this stage of our lousy season to play him?

There are two reason I could think of:

1) Soriano is one of the most selfish men in baseball, unwilling to let others shine while he goes out to underperform. However, there's too much evidence to the contrary, so I'm leaning more towards...

2) Someone in that clubhouse honestly thinks Soriano is the absolute best chance they have to stage any sort of comeback this season and is their best player at the position, so they will keep carting him out there regardless of his health, just so long as he can move around to some extent.

Not too mention, Lou has gone soft.

Basically Soriano tells HIM when he wants to play, and Lou just pencils him in. grrrrr.

That whole thing has driven me nuts the whole year.

....How they could not put on DL way back in April or May to get him healthy instead of throwing him out there everyday to stink it up, is just astounding to me.

To me, its been one of the major factors as to why we are now out of it.

words can not say how much i hate soriano

words can not say how much i hate soriano

paul k....I and maybe Gramps know that we have lost some appeal over the years, but your "Regrets" put a real exclamation point on that notion. Are you sure that you just don't want to get thrown out of Mullen's again? LOL.

So far the game seems uninspiring for both teams. Fox has added to the argument that his everyday position is corner OF.

Help the Blue get a win the rest of the way, posters. I've got another great memories and condolences assigment in a little while.

That was the third 2-out hit given up by Dempster. C'mon ...

What a bizarre double play, erased the double by Scotty Pods

30 games left....

they have to go about 22-8 to have a real chance for WC.

that would give cubs 89 wins

not impossible, but its a real longshot.

And that just gets them in the hunt. Doesn't guarantee a thing.

barring miracles, wait till next year.

Aaron's right. We will not offer Gregg arbitration.

There is just no end to DLee's productivity. And we will get to see the graying, gratifying and great #25 wearing Blue again next year.

We are up to three Faithful (and a couple persevering spouses) interested in an informal lunch and/or a beverage of your choosing on Saturday, Sept. 12th. The lunch and the Reds game start at noon. JimK and Gramps are set and Jim T.P is a strong maybe. The gathering is at Mullen's Bar and Grill in Rogers Park (Western and Touhy)on the Northside. My and Gramps time frame is 12 to 2 p.m.

A friend has made available 8 baseball cards to give away at the party including Buckner, Grace, Sandberg and three or four different Andre Dawson's. I'm recalling that Hawk pics may tempt Suzy if nothing else does. I'll have my 1971 Cubs team baseball that includes the signatures of 4 Hall of Famers and another item or two.

If you will or could be an attendee, please do a post with a "Yea! or a "Maybe" so I'll have a rough idea on how many tables to claim.

As an aside, Lou is pleased that the "Mrs." and I will be at Wrigley for the Sunday game. It could be old Lou and old Dusty's last game together at Wrigley.

Mullen's is walking distance from my place, but due to my Friday night social activities, I have not been awake (or functionable)for a saturday morning or early afternoon in years. Hope you have a good time though.

WHY!!!! we need to beat the sox...DLEE NEEDS TO START! :(

Congrats DLee!! Hopefully the Cubs can get a win for ya.

Today's lineup:

Fukudome - CF

Theriot - SS

Ramirez - 3B

Bradley - RF

Fox - 1B

Soriano - LF

Baker - 2B

Hill - C

Dempster - P

Derrek Lee is out of the lineup for the birth of his second child

If they offer Gregg arbitration and he accepts, does the team have to sign him?

Why in the hell would you want to do that? He'd be 4.5million$$ mop-up man. So actually that probably fits right into the plan, IF Hendry even had a plan for next year, which he doesn't of course, as he's told us all. So why speculate on arbitration guys and whatnot? You are getting WAY to far ahead of yourselves!

Let's beat the crap out of the Sux today, and make it #3 out of 12 in a row! (yep still snoozin)

will**

Phil,

He'd absolutely accept, because nobody in their right mind would sign him for more than $2-3 million, which is the going rate for a veteran middle reliever.

I agree with Aaron, cannot offer Gregg arbitration. He will likely accept, let him go.

I still dont know how Gregg is a type A Free agent, he sucks, I think he should be a type B free Agent.

Neil I'm so excited! I believe Theriot will have a huge day going 4 for 5 with 2 doubles and 4 RBIs.

Here we go Cubbies..Here we go

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Well if everything goes as normal, the Cubs will have 3 Type A Free agents! But my question will be if Gregg accepts arbitration (He made a little less then 5 in arb, but he probably wont wont get more in the open market) we he accept?