Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Padres - 08/17/09

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Game One Hundred-Sixteen: Cubs (60-55) vs. Padres (49-70)
Game Time - 9:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WCIU - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 185
Location - PETCO Park, San Diego

Ted Lilly (9-7, 3.59/1.15) vs. Kevin Correia (8-9, 4.51/1.34)

Updated - 4:40pm C.T. - Ted Lilly Activated from 15-day DL - Justin Berg Optioned to Triple-A Iowa

After a little breather, a lot of rain and a long plane ride, the Chicago Cubs will return to the field tonight for the first of three against the San Diego Padres. This is a huge trip for Lou Piniella's crew who enters play tonight five games back of the St. Louis Cardinals.

For all of the Padres' problems this season, only a few of them have been at home. The Padres are .500 at 30-30 in spacious PETCO Park and just 19-40 on the road. The Cubs struggle away from Wrigley (25-33) but must figure out a way to improve that mark over the next seven games. The last time the Cubs were in San Diego they were swept and completed their worst week under Lou Piniella. Another repeat performance out west and the chances of playing beyond game 162 go from possible to almost improbable.

The Cubs should have Aramis Ramirez in the starting lineup tonight. Before the rains came he was in the lineup on Sunday with Jake Fox in left field. Piniella should stick with his plan to give Alfonso Soriano time off and put the always-hustling Jake Fox in left once again tonight.

Ryan Theriot was sent home Sunday with a stomach virus, one that has apparently hit his entire family. Theriot was not on the team flight but was expected to join the team in San Diego later in the day. Aaron Miles will likely get the start at short once again tonight ... Miles was in the starting lineup Sunday for Theriot.

The Cubs will receive a boost with the return of Ted Lilly tonight ... and they must make sure Adrian Gonzalez does not beat them over the next three days.

While the offense must do their job, it all begins with Ted Lilly ... and one run and one win at a time.

Ted Lilly will make his first start tonight since going on the DL back on July 21 with left shoulder inflammation. Lilly was dealing with a sore left knee as well and went ahead and had that scoped while he was out.

In order for the Cubs to make a run at the Cardinals they will need the Ted Lilly that took the mound before his last start in Philly. Lilly struggled mightily, had zero to command and left after four innings on July 20 ... and nine runs, seven earned, on eight hits with two walks and six strikeouts.

Lilly had been dominant before his start against the Phillies, only five earned runs in three starts (2-1 record) and he must keep the Padres off the board ... and not allow Adrian Gonzalez to beat him.

'The Bulldog' is 3-6 in 10 starts on the road this season with a 5.40 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP.

Tonight will be Lilly's third start of the season against the Friars. He is 1-1 in the first two with a 5.68 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP. He beat San Diego at Wrigley back on May 13 (three runs on eight hits without a walk and seven strikeouts in 6 1/3 innings) but lost the finale in San Diego back on May 24, 7-2. The Padres plated five runs on eight hits in 6 1/3 innings.

Lilly is 5-2 in eight career games, seven starts, with a 3.55 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP against the Padres, 1-2 in three career games at PETCO with a 3.60 ERA and a 1.20 WHIP.

  • Henry Blanco - 0-for-3
  • David Eckstein - 5-for-39 with a double and 2 walks
  • Adrian Gonzalez - 4-for-15 with a double, a triple, 2 home runs and a walk
  • Tony Gwynn, Jr. - 1-for-1
  • Chase Headley - 2-for-9 with a double
  • Kevin Kouzmanoff - 4-for-15 with 2 doubles
  • Luis Rodriguez - 2-for-3

Kevin Correia has been extremely inconsistent this season for Bud Black but unfortunately for the Cubs' offense, he has been very good of late. After posting a 2-3 record in six starts in July, Correia is 1-1 in his last three starts with a 2.95 ERA and a 1.20 WHIP. Teams are hitting close to 100 points lower (.221 in August, .313 in July) than they did against Correia a month ago.

The Cubs must be patient against Correia and make him work. He will struggle with his command and will walk his fare share of batters if they give him a chance to do so. In his last 33 2/3 innings Correia has walked (16) almost as many as he's struck out (19).

The Padres are a very different team at home and the Cubs must not allow them to gain any confidence after being swept over the weekend by the Cardinals ... and Heath Bell blowing his second game of the year on Sunday, after two long delays.

Kevin Correia is 3-4 in 13 home games this season with a 4.03 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP.

Tonight will be Kevin Correia's third career start against the Cubs. He is 0-2 in six career games, two starts, with an 11.25 ERA and a 2.33 WHIP.

  • Jeff Baker - 2-for-5 with a home run
  • Milton Bradley - 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Mike Fontenot - 2-for-5 with 2 walks
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 2-for-7
  • Derrek Lee - 3-for-7
  • Aaron Miles - 1-for-4
  • Aramis Ramirez - 0-for-4
  • Alfonso Soriano - 1-for-4
  • Geovany Soto - 2-for-5 with a double and a walk
  • Ryan Theriot - 3-for-6 with 2 walks

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • SuzyS

    According to the Tribune, Lou finally says he's going to remove Gregg as the Closer...AUGUST 17th...Too Late Lou...Too Late.

  • Matt Haggard

    That'll help me sleep a little at least.



    Heh.

  • Jeff in Az

    Pinella just stated his demotion of gregg. I know its too late but it will help me sleep a bit tonight.

  • Jeff in Az

    I'd rather lose a hundred games with the boys from iowa next year, rather than suffer through another year with this group. Please clean house. I'd luv to see fuld, hoff, fox, and blanco in their respective positions.



    Also, please get rid of Z in the offseason, I've grown tired of his act as well.

  • Jeff in Az

    I have not been this frustrated with a cubs closer since latroy hawkins.



    Gregg also resembles a gentleman by the name of Greg Olson who made a tremendous habit of blowing saves one right after another for the D-backs in their inaugural season.



    We r comin home 8 or 9 back folks with the way the cards are playing, and us with 4 against the dodgers. Lets shutdown rami and see if guzman can close for us next year.

  • Jeremy

    I'm waiting for that update in the story that says:



    UPDATED - 12:40 P.M. This team BLOWS!!!

  • Mark

    WHY the F did Lou leave that ass Gregg in there when he walked Exstein? He should have Guzman warming up from the get go. This piece of shit, Gregg, is obviously ruined, he got 1 out in the inning..... there's his confidence builder. This piece of shit has to go. We are DONE, MAYBE NEXT YEAR! This whole team BLOWS!!!

  • ronald degonia

    Hello Cub fans accross America;

    Tonight was another example of poor decision making in both the line-up and closer choices!this field management is both deaf and blind while operating with one brain cell!There is no excuse for losing this game except the mgr. was going to prove everybody wrong about Gregg.Boy he showed us!!!!I'm going to have a lot of beer before I can sleep tonight.Mr Pinella why don't you get the hell out of town and take that washed up pitching coach along with Hendy with you!!!!!!!!!!OUCH WHAT SCREW UPS

  • agustin rexach

    Automatic when Gregg comes in to close a game

    right? He should be the team janitor not the closer.

    Woooow damn this team, what a loser squad

  • Rob

    calm down folks. all this really is funny.



    seriously, did you honestly think this club had a chance at the playoffs. don't say they looked good on paper cause that's just BS. look at reality and what successful sustained patters of good or great baseball was there in this season that lasted beyond 6 or 7 games? none at all. we were only close to 1st because the rest of the division was incredibly mediocre. this time had to come and I'm glad it's happening so that the Ricketts realize money has been severly misspent, talent severly misevaluated, talent severly misused, and an organizational foundation that is severly lacking in philosophy, fundamentals, and development.



    clean house this winter and start over. this collapse needs to happen.

  • Baron

    and we have a 4 game set with the Dodgers comin up.... yikes!! this trip could get real ugly

  • SuzyS

    Joe S. ---Do us a favor...and Gregg also.

    Get to Gregg and take him fishing...wrap his pitching arm with lots of chum....

    where ever sharks are most plentiful will do.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Im thinking right to Sea World and toss into Shamu's tank!!

  • Aaron

    funny thing is, Gregg has 6 blown saves, according to Len...already that gets us plus 3 or whatever in the loss column on the Cards....good enough for a 6 game swing. How many other games though did he pitch where we were tied and/or close, and him giving up runs put it out of reach? That's what I'd like to know...because I can recall at least 3 games early on where he did that. So, if you want to look at it from that perspective, that's another 3 games, good enough for a 9 game swing. Am I making sense?



    I said it early on, and faced a TON of flack on here for my comments. I wanted Guzman as closer, Marmol as set-up, and Gregg banished to mop-up and/or DFA'd. One player single-handedly destroyed our 2009 season...his name is Kevin Gregg

  • SuzyS

    Aaron, It doesn't matter anymore...but I've been there from the earliest pushing for Guzman as closer.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Gregg sucks....no doubt...but it was he and a cast of others that destroyed the season. Very few closers (like Lidge last year) got through a whole season without a few blown saves....cant say that his 6 blown saves are what cost us the season. There's plenty of blame to spread for this embarassment.

  • Neil

    Aaron, right there with you on everything, but one. I mentioned John Gaub this morning, said Gregg should no longer be the closer.



    However, I cannot agree with him be the sole reason for this year. Several players and a GM have had their hands in this mess.



    If you remember correctly, I mentioned Angel Guzman during a radio show as well. I am right there with you on that one. Just concerned about his injury history and pitching back-to-back-to-back.



    This tonight was very, very bad.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Great minds think alike lol

  • CubsfaninBama

    How demoralizing is this game going to be for us? It's horrible. We finally get a run in the eighth...everyone does their job...starter, bullpen, then Gregg BLOWS it again! But, Lou will defend him and trot him out there again tomorrow. That is just aweful for team moral to keep doing this. The whole team is going to just give up!

  • JimK

    Gregg simply sucked, and we now have a team concussion to deal with. Lou has to go with Grabow, Guzman and Marmol now. Next year has begun for the back of the pen. The two Florida disasters should have been the curtain call for Gregg.

  • Matt Haggard

    Gregg's six blown saves equal the number of games we are now behind.



    Just saying.

  • Aaron

    game.....set....match......season over....are we honestly watching the same story over and over again?!? I mean, seriously, when the hell are Lou and Hendry ever gonna learn.



    DFA MILES!!!!!!

    DFA GREGG!!!!!!!!!

    bench Soriano!!!!!!!!

    bench Fontenot!!!!!!!!!



    It's not that hard. every time Miles is is in the lineup, the offense crashes and burns....ditto Fontenot. Every damn time we're in a late situation, Gregg gives up VERY "loud" outs....I'm curious his excuse this time.....Is it jet lag? Was it pitching at night? Was it pitching in too spacious of a park?!?



    Time after time, he lost games where we could've came out with our heads high....like I said....now we are 11 games out in the Central (and don't tell me we're only 6 out, because that's simply misleading. We're 11 games out, because we still have to win 8 games just to tie them...and hope they lose the others to keep us even in the loss column) Mathematically, we're VERY close to being eliminated, barring a collapse of epic proportions from the Cards, of which we'd only see if Carpenter, Pujols, AND Holliday went down. They're way too deep on their roster. We're not.



    LOL..unbelievable

  • Baron

    2 bucks to anyone that guesses Lou's post game comments...

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    "Look....we played a hell of a game...unfortunately they got a key hit late. The kid hit a good pitch. This is a good young ballclub we are facing."

  • Baron

    2 bucks to you.... You forgot his favorite finishing line though..



    'What do you want me to do?'

  • cubbieblue25

    Wow!



    That stupid short arm pitching crap doesn't work to well does it.



    Maybe dude needs some night vision goggles.

  • Jeff

    Just another nail in Jim Hendry's coffin gang ... look at it on the bright side. There's no chance of going to the playoffs anyway.

  • CubsWS09

    i hate gregg with a PASSION

  • CubsfaninBama

    I think our ship just sank! Thanks Gregg...you freakin' suck ass and I hope you never pitch again...EVER!

  • Matt Haggard

    I never want to see Gregg pitch again.



    That was the pitch that finally broke my spirits. I've lost my optimism with this game



    I'm hanging around. But I'm crushed...

  • Matt Haggard

    This team*

  • pete187

    Agreed Matt. I'm going to bed. When I wake up I expect Gregg to at the very least have an arm injury that sidelines him for a month, hopefully for the remainder of his Cubs career.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Agreed!!!

  • Dorasaga

    The prophet warned the Trojans:



    "Whatever inning is, I fear Gregg pitches even while one out left."

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    UN F'IN BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!



    Let er rip Aaron.....

  • Baron

    Oh MY F#$#$# LORD!!!

  • CubsfaninBama

    How many F'n chances does a guy get? I mean, damn, if I saw the same pitch 6-7 times in a row, I belive I could time it and get a hit!

  • pete187

    I loathe Gregg with every fiber in my being.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Is Lou drunk? wtf was that???

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Where the hell is their team hotel out here????? I'm gonna kick his ASSSSSS!!!!!!

  • CubsfaninBama

    You CAN NOT throw all low 90's fastballs and be a closer in the major leagues!

  • Patrick

    NOOOOO

  • Aaron

    LMAO....LOL.........Piniella will never learn. so, game tied....who wants to bet next pitch wins it?!?

  • Baron

    F#$#$ GREGG is a serious bum

  • Matt Haggard

    Man, I hate this guy...

  • Patrick

    not looking good....

  • Aaron

    LOL...suckiest closer in baseball right here folks

  • Patrick

    phew adrian gonzolez down. one more out!!

  • CubsfaninBama

    How do you throw 6 straight fastballs and walk someone? Ridiculous!

  • CubsWS09

    o we did not need that walk. my eyes are close

  • Aaron

    A Gonz will hit a 2 run bomb...game over

  • Matt Haggard

    Not a compelling start..

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Nice hustle Gregg!!!!!

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    OH F**K.....Kevin Gregg faces Adrian Gonzalez third!!!



    Bring in Marshall for the last out!!!!

  • Patrick

    Agreed

  • Patrick

    1-0 and here comes the bottom of the ninth. Cover your eyes this could get ugly.

  • Matt Haggard

    Miles, Hill and Fuld.



    No wonder Gonzalez looked so complacent.

  • Matt Haggard

    Or rather, Kosuke.



    And he made me aware! Way to go Cozy-K!

  • Patrick

    Did arron miles just make an out? Didn't see that one coming.

  • JimK

    Grabow(ski) carried the ball well and deserved another carry. Marmol offered just a tiny scare and did the job. I know it's piling on bats, but lets get another run or two.

  • Jeff

    Has anybody in baseball played more over his head this season than Cardinals closer Ryan Franklin?



    I mean, 30 saves and a 1.16 ERA ... seriously?

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Another Padres "Nugget".....the Cubs have yet to shut out an opponent on the road this year.....(3 times at Wrigley).....and in 2009 the Cubs have yet to have a 1-0 final score win or lose.

  • Matt Haggard

    They're due?

  • Baron

    cmon Miles... I'll eat a plate-full of crow for an insurance run.... HR?

  • CubsfaninBama

    Why can't Lou just let Guzman close? I can't even hardly watch when Gregg is in.

  • Patrick

    Are the cardinals invincible? They never lose it seems.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Mark Grant is clowning Marmols walks allowed this year....cmon Carlos!!!

  • Baron

    Marmol first... drink in hand -- lets do this

  • JimK

    Well, one run is better than none unless your into women's hosiery. Thank you ARAM. Fox has had good AB's, but he's come up short tonight.



    And now it's time for the "Amen Pen"--and we all know the sources of the prayer enders.

  • Baron

    Gregg Time..... Pass the Vodka!

  • Patrick

    it's only the 8th? lol, I was sure it was the 9th.

  • Brian McCabe

    I am just glad Boras didn't screw the kid. He has done a lot for his players. He has a job. Get his clients the most money possible. And, guess what, he is better at it than anyone else. That is all.



    But when it comes to draft picks ... these kids need to play. I am glad he gets the chance to play.

  • Matt Haggard

    Thinking he could get into the rotation by the start of next season.



    And with that contract, why shouldn't he?

  • Matt Haggard

    So, looking to the ninth.



    Gregg really can't give up a homer here....right?

  • Baron

    Strassburg -- 4 years 15.67 million $ ....



    kid set himself up for life out of high school... nice job

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    out of college....he was a pitcher as San Diego State University. Still set for life for sure....

  • CubsfaninBama

    Let's hope that Gregg doesn't get a chance to close this one!

  • Matt Haggard

    Strasburg signs at 15.67 million..



    Way to stick it to Boras, Washington.



    30 million for a minor leaguer...Pfft.

  • Patrick

    Congrats Nats. I hope it works out. That organization needs a boost and the fans it has will finally have something to cheer for.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Lee and ARAM finally get us on the board!

  • Patrick

    ARAMIS Ramirez with a go ahead RBI single. Cubs lead 1-0 and it will be up to Gregg barring 3 more runs. Wait, Marmol is getting ready in the pen!! NOOOOO

  • Neil

    LEE AND ARAM!!!!

  • Baron

    A-Ram is a STUD

  • Matt Haggard

    Dig Derrek dig!



    Yes!

  • JimK

    And then my man DLee gets a leadoff triple. Lee the good times roll!!

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Nice hustle Lee!!!!!!!

  • Patrick

    DERREK LEE A LEADOFF TRIPLE!!!!

  • JimK

    Well, it's still 0--0 in the eighth, and we are batting with nobody out. I like our chances.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    This date in history 2002....



    Alfonso Soriano became the first 2B to join the 30-30 club.....

  • JimK

    Bradley's success amounted to not hurting himself on a dribbler to third that resulted in the third out. The positive suggestion didn't work.

  • Neil

    Three runs for the Cubs in 34 innings in San Diego this season.

  • Patrick

    didnt they sweep them at home though?

  • JimK

    You heard it here first. Bradley has to bat left with two on......and he succeeds!

  • Patrick

    way to share your optimism. I hope you're right.

  • Brian McCabe

    Aaron,



    I am thick, but have never taken steroids. I guess you could also say I am husky, possibly overweight. Oh, that is what it is. Sorry, I mistook an over abundance of cheese for steroids.



    But this is my question ... some of you listen to me talk and write on a weekly basis. I know baseball, have played it for years and watched all my life.



    How does Aaron Miles all of a sudden just suck. I hate using that word about anyone, but he just sucks right now. I just don't get it. There is an off-year and then there is hitting .190.



    And let me comment on a commercial from AM/PM. If I house-sit for a friend with a pool, and his cousin Alex is there too, if she really is a girl, she doesn't look like the girl in the commercial. It is more unbelievable than Courtney Thorne-Smith marrying Jim Belushi. And I really mean that.

  • Baron

    Brian, I don't think I've ever seen you post on a live game thread before :-)



    Let me try that one... 'all of a sudden suck'?????



    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7228



    Aaron Miles has a career .680 OPS (.323 OB, .357slugging)



    He has 16 HR in 700 games played for Power... 26 Stolen bases (caught stealing 14 times)...



    He does have a .282 average... but is basically a poor man's Mark Grudzielanek

  • Aaron

    stole the stats right out of my mouth....thank you (bows)

  • Brian McCabe

    Baron and Aaron,



    Fair points about his career stats. You guys are right on. I was talking more about his average. That's all. But you two are right.



    Baron, I used to post a lot more. I have been bad at it this season.



    DLEE!

  • agustin rexach

    Miles just hit his hardest and longest fly he has hit all year.

  • Patrick

    and he still got out.

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