Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Reds - 08/05/09

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Game One Hundred-Six: Cubs (57-48) vs. Reds (45-61)
Game Time - 6:10pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 186
Location - Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati

Rich Harden (7-6, 4.50/1.35) vs. Justin Lehr (0-0, 5.40/2.00)

Updated 3:49pm C.T. - Aaron Miles activated from 15-day DL - Jeff Stevens Optioned to Triple-A Iowa.

Updated 4:17pm C.T. - B.J. Ryan requested and was granted his release today by the Chicago Cubs. Ryan felt "his velocity and sharpness would not get there" according to the Sun-Times.

Updated 2:49pm CT: The Cardinals lost to the Mets earlier today 9-0, putting the Cubs a half game ahead of St. Louis in the division entering play tonight.

The Cubs will face the Reds for the last time this season in Cincinnati tonight. The Cubs are 8-3 on the year against the Reds with three left against Dusty Baker's bunch at Wrigley in September (September 11 - September 13). The Cubs will enter play tonight tied for first place with the St. Louis Cardinals ... after Albert Pujols hit his fifth grand slam of the year in the tenth inning on Tuesday night that put the game away. Pujols tied Ernie Banks' All-Time mark of five grand slams in a single season.

If the game is on the line tonight in the ninth, the Cubs are expected to use Kevin Gregg to try and close it out. Gregg said Tuesday night he is ready to go after missing two days with a 'tired arm'.

The Cubs are not planning on activating Geovany Soto before tonight's finale against the Reds. Soto is slated to be back on Friday in the first of four against the Rockies in Denver.

Aaron Miles is expected to return from the DL tonight, with a pitcher returning to Iowa to make room for the underachieving Miles. Jeff Samardzija should be the odd man out when the move is made official. The Tribune mentioned Sam Fuld could be sent down today in order to make room Miles. Sending Fuld down would weaken an already defensively challenged team, especially late in games.

Aaron Miles has not performed anywhere near the way he did a year ago while he was in Cardinal Red ... it is past time for him to start earning his paycheck.

Jake Fox started in right field on Tuesday night in place of the struggling Milton Bradley. The Cubs are not contemplating a platoon with Fox and Bradley but Lou Piniella must continue finding a place for Fox to play every day. Fox was 0-for-3 with a run scored but he gives the Cubs another threat in the middle of the lineup ... especially on the road against right handed starters. Fox made the plays in right on Tuesday and maybe he should fill in for Alfonso Soriano tonight ... which would give Soriano two full days before facing the red-hot Rockies on Friday night.

While the offense must do their job against Justin Lehr, it all begins with Rich Harden ... and one win at a time.

Rich Harden has been very, very good since the All-Star break. After a disappointing and inconsistent first half (5-6 in 14 starts with a 5.47 ERA and a 1.54 WHIP), Harden has performed like the pitcher the Cubs traded for last summer over his last four games. Harden is 2-0 in the second half (last four starts) with a 1.50 ERA and a 0.75 WHIP. Harden tied a career-high in strikeouts with 11 in his last game against the Fish but also walked three and left with a no decision after five innings.

Harden's performance on the road this year has been discussed ad nauseam over the last two months. Harden is 4-1 away from Wrigley this year with a 2.19 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP ... at night, 5-1 in eight starts with a 2.37 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP.

Tonight will be Rich Harden's third start of the year against the Reds. He is 2-0 this season against Cincinnati with a 2.25 ERA and a 0.50 WHIP. Harden beat the Reds at Wrigley 7-2 on April 21 (two runs on three hits with two walks and eight strikeouts in six innings) and again 10 days ago at Wrigley 5-2. Harden allowed one run on one hit with no walks and eight strikeouts in six innings ... the lone run, a first inning homer by Joey Votto.

Harden has allowed three runs to the Reds this season in 12 innings ... two of the runs have come via the longball. Harden figures to give up at least one home run tonight, it is up to him to limit them to solo shots.

  • Jonny Gomes - 0-for-2
  • Alex Gonzalez - 0-for-3 with a walk
  • Laynce Nix - 3-for-17 with a double
  • Brandon Phillips - 0-for-8
  • Scott Rolen - 0-for-6
  • Adam Rosales - 0-for-1
  • Willy Taveras - 1-for-5
  • Joey Votto - 1-for-7 with a home run and a walk

Justin Lehr will make his second career big league start tonight. Lehr did not pitch in the majors in 2007 or 2008 and was 2-1 in 16 games for the Brewers, all out of the pen, in 2006 with a 8.62 ERA and a 1.98 WHIP. In 2005, the 33-year old right-hander was 1-1 in 23 games with Milwaukee and posted a 3.89 ERA and a 1.44 WHIP.

Lehr lasted just five innings in his last, and only, big league outing this season. The Rockies scored three runs on four hits in five innings ... but Lehr's undoing was six walks and no strikeouts.

Justin Lehr will make his first career start against the Cubs tonight but his fourth career appearance. He last faced the Cubs on April 28, 2006 at Wrigley. The Cubs managed a run on two hits in 1 1/3 innings. Lehr does not have a record in three outings against the Cubs but has blown a save ... 6.00 ERA and a 1.67 WHIP (three runs, two earned, on four hits in three innings with a walk and two strikeouts).

  • Derrek Lee - no official at bat, one walk
  • Aramis Ramirez - 0-for-1
  • Alfonso Soriano - 2-for-4 with a double

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Jeff

    I didn't see the game, but after looking at the box score, all I can say is what an absolutely pathetic performance. And this, IMO, sums up why the Cubs will not win the Central Division this season. What a completely gutless choke job against a pitcher I have never heard of with a chance to take a much-needed one game lead in the standings. St. Louis is LOADED and you absolutely must take advantage of EVERY OPPORTUNITY they give you from here on out. Absolutely disgusting.

  • CubsfaninBama

    I'm kind of speachless...a complete game by Justin Lehr against the Cubs? What a crappy game! I hope everyone gets some rest tomorrow and comes out better on Friday. And I hope Miles gets lost on the way to Colorado!

  • PeteM

    Saban would cut him.

  • CubsfaninBama

    You're damn straight he would...LOL!

  • CubsfaninBama

    I'm also so disappointed that Lou would put this lineup on the field knowing that the Cards had lost earlier and we had a day off tomorrow. You put your best possible lineup out there and let everyone rest tomorrow. This could have been a big confidence booster and put us in first by a full game. I don't get it, like most everyone on here.

  • ripsnorter

    Fox will be lucky to be on the team when they decide to activate Soto.

  • Boseph Heyden

    The Aaron Miles experiment needs to end now. Not tommorow...not Friday...now. He's been given plenty of chances to perform. This isn't even like a Jim Edmonds "early '08" performance. Every single thing he did tonight was awful: played too deep on slow rollers, didn't charge balls hit to him, took his time attempting to throw out WILLY TAVERAS...those aren't even "I haven't played in the majors for a few months" type of mistakes: those are things that 10 year olds should know about the game.



    Suck up the 1 million per year and ship him out. You need a move to bring up Soto? There it is.

  • ripsnorter

    Aaron Miles was hitting .286 IN HIS LAST 10 GAMES AT IOWA. lol What a slugger!



    87 AB/ 22 h/ 4 2B/ 0HR/1 for 2 in SB/ 8 RBI! And get this: 2 BB with 14 k's!!



    Yup, he's a real offensive threat, right behind Albert Pujols and Manny!

  • ripsnorter

    Aaron Miles is a real spark plug. He wasn't hitting in Iowa; and up here he's now .198 BA, .235 OBP, and .254 slugging! L-O-U, you'd best bat him #2 in the order to get things going! lol

  • John G.

    Pat Hughes just said that there were no highlights worth playing tonight. LOL

  • John G.

    And Milton Bradley was player of the game. Only because he was the only Cub who got on base more than once.

  • Reggie

    Our offense has got less life in it than a hobos beard.

  • SuzyS

    Shame, Shame, Shame on both Lou and the Cubs...they mailed it in.



    Harden did well after he settled down....



    Just Shame on them...it should not have happened.

  • PeteM

    You hit the nail right on the head.

  • Curt in Madison

    Weak show.

  • John G.

    Well that's 2-1/2 hours of my life I'll never get back.

  • Aaron

    on the bright side, Hendry got a birdseye view of the game with Jocketty....hopefully Jocketty was telling Hendry why the Cardinals never gave Miles more than one year deals, because he sucked....HOPEFULLY, Hendry just saw that the hardest ball hit all game was by Theriot, who wasn't even a starter

  • Aaron

    wow, what a pathetic game all around....managing, hitting, fielding....NOT the way you want to end a series

  • GaryLeeT

    What a stark contrast between the Theriot and Miles at bats.

  • Neil

    Theriot should not be in right now. Piniella wanted to give him a day off ... well give it to him.

  • GaryLeeT

    This is not the kind of MO they need heading into Colorado. They'll need to take 3 of 4 for a winning road trip. A tall order indeed, but anything less during a stretch run, would be considered a failure.

  • JimK

    Well I'm back to discover that nothing worked tonight. Our guys must not have seen my script. I did forget about Indiana's Scott Rolen and see he hit one out against Harden. But not scoring against their guy is mind boggling. If nobody shows up, you don't win. Form went out the window tonight.

  • Aaron

    a guy like Lehr today, throwing in the mid 80's, is just what the doctor ordered for an older team lacking bat speed. Like Brenly said at the beginning, it would've been perfect for Hoffpauir too, to get him going, as he needs that type of pitcher right now.



    Once again, Piniella, just like the game against Lincecum, was like, "well, I need to get guys rest, and don't care if we win"



    Winning managers do NOT do that.

  • John G.

    This was completely predictable. Kevin Gregg comes in down by 4 runs and gets them 1-2-3.



    Ass Hole!!!

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    John:



    We have a great pen when we our trailing.

  • PeteM

    After listening to this game there is one piece of good news.



    Miles probably won't be back on the field til after Colorado.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Lehr for Cy Young...LOL! I know Theriot needed a day off, but with an off day tomorrow, we could've let him play and given Bradley another day off and let Fox play. Everyone would have liked that one!

  • SuzyS

    Well gents, it was a slice.

    A slice of what, I don't know but definitely a slice.

  • John G.

    The only one I can think of that is happy with Miles would be Kevin Gregg. Miles takes all the heat off of him.

  • Aaron

    oh, also, it won't show up in a boxscore, but that run should be un-earned

  • GaryLeeT

    The Cubs saw that the Cards lost earlier today and decided to stretch the upcoming day off into two. They just ooze "team on a mission", don't they?

  • Aaron

    all of this because of Miles' crap defense. If he didn't exist, we'd have 2 outs right now

  • John G.

    That run was all manufactured by Taveras... with a bit of help from the Cubs defense.

  • Reggie

    I pray that Miles gets caught up in a PED scandal, he would get suspended and it would be hilarious.

  • SuzyS

    Don't PRAY about Miles...I prayed never to see him on the field in a Cubs uniform...and you see the result.

    Guess I've sinned too much!

  • John G.

    You hope Miles is a pedophile?

  • Reggie

    I meant performance enhancing drugs but that too has its merits due to its long jail time.

  • Aaron

    oh...now the Shark is in...(shouldn't we give him a new nickname...like "minnow"?)...anyway, game is going to be out of reach now....



    LOL...and after I speak of his awful defense, we see first hand why he's the worst player in MLB right now...no hit, no glove=no usefulness whatsoever

  • Kegert

    Miles can't hit AND he can't throw. Good think we brought him back up. I really don't understand the stupid decisions this year!

  • CubsfaninBama

    This is one of those games I'm glad I don't get on TV...cause it's much worse than watching it on Gameday when we have this horrific offense.

  • Aaron

    WOW....LOL....see, this is what happens when you bring sucky McSuckFace back....I'm not kidding you...he messes everything up. It was like when Bradley went down earlier, we were winning, then he comes back, sucks, and we start losing. Miles is the same way.



    When you're in the 2 hole in the lineup, and you have an OBP in the mid 2 range, and an average below .200.....even if you had a solid glove (which he does NOT), you're still killing the team.



    Soriano was caught napping. Why? Because the offense is lulling everyone to sleep. and it starts at the top. Theriot is such a great 2 hole hitter for us, that when he's out of the lineup, we're hurting

  • SuzyS

    I can hear Lou in the postgame:

    "Well, it's tough to sweep a team

    in their home park".



    BUT the reality is...he gave the game away with this line-up.

  • John G.

    Sorry-anal

  • Bryan

    Here we are, August 5th, and Lou just plans to give a game away with this lineup. He's quite the strategy genius.



    Take another nap Lou.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Nice Soriano...finally get on and promptly get picked off!

  • SuzyS

    Typical Bradley night...good for one single/1 sometimes 2 walksand that's it.

  • Reggie

    Gritty outing by Harden.

  • Neil

    LET'S GO OFFENSE! LET'S GO!!!!

  • Neil

    Still speachless?!?!?!

  • GaryLeeT

    With a day off tomorrow, I see no reason to play this line-up. Lehr issued 6 walks and had no strikeouts his last time out, but in his very next start he's friggin Cy Young candidate?

  • SuzyS

    Well, THE good thing is Miles just went below the Mendoza line with the last at bat...now a whopping .198.



    I don't want him to give Lou or Hendry any glimmer of hope...so they HAVE to do something.

  • Baron

    Aaron Miles has an OPS of .498



    That is lower than Felix Pie ever had, Lower than Corey Patterson, lower than anyone.... OMG .... and he's batting 2nd?

  • CubsfaninBama

    Ummmmm....offense...HELLO!

  • GaryLeeT

    Neifi Miles strikes again.

  • Baron

    F#$#$ hell



    this is a crap lineup... Lou mustve been smokin crack this morning

  • cubbie12

    miles blows

  • Aaron

    Soto just hit another bomb tonight (his 2nd down there). Castro is also 2-for-3 on the night, and is now batting .571 on his call-up to AA.

  • SuzyS

    Hey did you see the Cubs released Waddell

    today....according to Muskat.



    That was under the radar.

  • Neil

    Suzy, I did not. Thanks for pointing that out. I wonder why. I never heard what the non-baseball related injury was.



    That does open a spot on the 40-man. Without looking that should mean three open spots.

  • Aaron

    yes...additionally, we have 2 more that could open on a moment's notice (transferring Cotts and Chad Fox to 60-day DL). So, technically, we have just 35 on the 40-man.



    Honestly, with the way Castro is playing, I would not be surprised in the least if we see him this year. He's clearly unfazed by the advanced competition, and has already played well on a big stage (Futures Game). While he's still very young, at just 19 years old, we might just see him promoted this year if he keeps up this hitting. Neil was absolutely right....DL-ing Blanco really screwed us over, because we have no suitable back-up at AAA for Theriot...but we do have Castro now at AA. The jury is still out on him. It's only 2 games thus far, but I'm pleasantly surprised with the kid. Barney is hitting .250 now in 30 games at AAA...not exactly promising.



    *side note...Brad Snyder has now been activated from the DL at AAA

  • SuzyS

    That's a long leap from A ball to the majors all in one year...but the need is so great,...anyone you think might make it through waivers?

  • SuzyS

    Yup...roster at 37...including DL guys they could remove...ie Fox.

  • cubbie12

    gold glove...

  • apurkey

    Miles does have the glove and Theriot needs the day off but that is no reason to put him in the 2-hole

  • SuzyS

    Lehr consistantly throwing stikes.

  • Reggie

    Late arrival to the game and I am sickened by this lineup.



    What does Aaron Miles need to do to get released? Murder? Sleep with Rosanne Barr? Break the sacred blood brother bond he must have with Pinella? The guy just strolls back into the team where he is given the responsibility to bat second and play shortstop (a position he can't play), woeful.

  • Rocky

    Due up-Fontenot, Hill, and Harden. That is not exciting at all.

  • SuzyS

    btw Kansas City DFA'd Freel today.

  • Rocky

    Miles is a douchebag, Theriot is the man.

  • Aaron

    and that, my friends, is why I told you having Miles in the lineup would be an absolute killer. first out of the inning, Lee gets on, ARAM flies out, Bradley gets on, Soriano K's (which we all knew was coming in that situation)...it wouldn't be so bad with Theriot in there, as he most likely would've gotten on as well, and we might have a run, AND another shot, even if ARAM failed, as Fontenot would've been up after Soriano...anyway, it's just a real pathetic lineup

  • Neil

    Aaron, bad thing is with the way they handled Blanco there is not another option in Triple-A, other than Darwin Barney. I liked what I saw in Mesa but he has struggled with the I-Cubs. They must have a backup infielder. One positive is Starlin Castro was promoted to Double-A.



    I would like to say I am not blaming tonight on Miles, there are too many holes with this lineup ... and they are not facing a very good pitcher, no offense to Justin Lehr.

  • Aaron

    this is just sickening...I know what you're getting at...it's a team effort, but he kills the lineup, plain and simple. It's why we couldn't win early this year, despite leading the league in quality starts. See, it's not just his woeful average, it's ALSO the fact that he sucks at defense (we haven't seen today), AND I don't think the guy has made a single productive out all year. So, he can't get on base, his defense sucks, AND when he does get out, he can't move runners over. We've seen two very weak pop outs by him today. Honestly, I referenced this the other day talking about Todd Hundley just before he was traded, and I was watching him in the batting cage. Dude looked like a Little Leaguer, and in the cage, he was popping up balls consistently, and very weakly straight up, just like Miles is doing in game situations.



    I haven't been to a Cubs game live yet this year, but I'm going to try to catch them on my vacation this weekend, and I'll bet money on it, that Miles looks like Hundley did in the cage in batting practice---like he doesn't even belong on any competitive team whatsoever.



    Hendry's ego is really holding this team up from succeeding and playing consistent baseball. Benching Bradley when he couldn't hit righties early on in favor of Hoffpauir/Fox, bringing up Fox when ARAM went down, bringing up a catcher when Soto went down (as they clearly weren't going to use Fox), DFA-ing Gathright, Miles, and others early on. I mean, the sole reason he's sticking to his guns, is he wants to salvage his horrible moves, and try to audition for another team when the new owners come in. It's brutal watching Miles. He has no business being in a MLB uniform right now

  • SuzyS

    SORIANO...PREDICTABLE.

  • Neil

    Lee with the Cubs' first hit!

  • SuzyS

    LETS GET ON THE BOARD NOW!!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    No hitter, No hitter, No hitter, No hitter



    Jinx Jinx Jinx!

  • SuzyS

    We're going to miss Hill's defense when Soto comes back.

  • Neil

    Koyie threw Phillips out twice in that inning ... I am still shaking my head.

  • Neil

    Speechless?!?!?! How does a Major League baseball player miss a tag like that?

  • Rocky

    Theriot needed a rest but couldn't you have put Fontenot at short and Baker at second?

  • SuzyS

    Cmon Harden/Cubbies...Just because theCards lost 9-0 we don't have to be

    copycats.

  • Rocky

    This lineup is probably anemic.

  • Matt Haggard

    Lehr is just having a field day with the Cubs lineup...

  • Neil

    Eight pitches for Lehr in the third inning ... so much for making him work

  • Aaron

    Neil, I agree...I wish I was actually right with my prediction, as it would've taken far more than 8 pitches in all likelihood.



    what a horrible play by Fontenot. Do the Cubs scouts even pay attention to our own games to figure out our weaknesses and how to expose it?!? Does Hendry even watch the games at all?!? Brenly and Kasper have been harping on it all year with Theriot and Fontenot coming up to grab the ball instead of waiting for it. They've cost us several caught stealings already this year with no end in sight. It's unreal is what it is. Every team knows to slide to the outside of the bag, and there's no way that Theriot or Fontenot can come up with the tag. In fact, most of the caught stealings have been where Koyie Hill or Soto have thrown it right on time, where it's a bang, bang play. If they throw it slightly ahead of time, the runner gets to the outside, easily. It's unbelievable.



    The Cubs' staff might look at this inning and others in the past where pitchers have gotten out of it as "no harm, no foul"....but they've been doing it all damn year.





    Cubs offense blows a big one with Miles and Bradley in there.



    Isn't it funny that when both of those jokers are out of the lineup, we actually WIN games. It's NOT rocket science...They really are THAT bad

  • SuzyS

    Good job with Votto...3 is a gift.



    It's doable if we can make some changes

    in the line up...but Harden not long for this game...and our wonderful pen will get a workout.

  • Neil

    HUGE strikeout for Harden ... time to make this kid work.

  • SuzyS

    Harden doesn't have it.

  • Matt Haggard

    Wait til it gets dark..



    Maybe?

  • Matt Haggard

    Gotta hold it at 3..



    Man..This ain't me but I don't like our chances for once..

  • Aaron

    WOW...unbelievable. 3-0 GAME OVER!!! I might as well turn it off, and do other things, especially with this lineup. John G was absolutely right about ARAM, Lee, and Fukudome being the only real hitters.



    Top of 3rd, you watch, Koyie Hill will go down swinging, Harden will go down swinging, and Fukudome will bring the count to 3-2, then go down swinging once again.



    Piniella's an idiot for putting this sham lineup out there with Harden throwing.

  • Neil

    Offense is gonna have to win this one.

  • Neil

    Too many holes in the lineup...there goes Rolen.

  • SuzyS

    Hey guys...do you think the Cards will be able to resign both Pujols And Halliday?

  • SuzyS

    A nailbiter in the making...and it doesn't have to be.

  • 09shine

    excellent observation.. i agree 100,000%

  • John G.

    Lee, ARam and KFuk are the only real hitters in the lineup tonight. Maybe Harden too

  • Aaron

    wow..Miles is incredibly sucky, isn't he. Is that not the weakest pop-up you've ever seen by an MLB player that's NOT a pitcher?!? Funny thing is, he's had NUMEROUS weak hits like that this year

  • Matt Haggard

    I hate this lineup..



    So much.



    I just hope they prove me wrong..

  • CubsfaninBama

    I agree with you 100% Matt. I totally hate this lineup, but hope they figure out a way to score some runs.

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