Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Reds - 08/04/09

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Game One Hundred-Five: Cubs (56-48) vs. Reds (45-60)
Game Time - 6:10pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 186
Location - Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati

Tom Gorzelanny (3-1, 5.19/1.15) vs. Johnny Cueto (8-8, 4.06/1.34)

Updated 3:57pm C.T. - Andres Blanco placed on 15-day DL with left calf strain - Tom Gorzelanny Recalled from Triple-A Iowa According to the Sun-Times, Aaron Miles will likely be activated on Wednesday with a pitcher going down to Iowa.

Weather premitting ... The tied-for-first-place Chicago Cubs will have a new, yet familiar face on the mound tonight in Cincinnati. Tom Gorzelanny will make his Cubs' debut after being acquired from the Pirates last week along with John Grabow for Kevin Hart, Jose Ascanio and Josh Harrison. Gorzelanny will wear number 22 for the Chicago Cubs.

Gorzelanny will make his first big league start of the year tonight. While he was up with the Pirates he pitched out of the pen. One of his three wins came against the Cubs in relief back on May 25. The Cubs are looking for Gorzelanny to make at least three starts while Ted Lilly is on the DL. Speaking of Lilly, the Cubs are still targeting an August 15 return that will include a rehab start somewhere in the Cubs' system.

The Cubs will have to make a roster move in order for Gorzelanny to start tonight. Jeff Samardzija should have punched his ticket on Saturday ... stay tuned.

Geovany Soto may be back sooner than expected. Lou Piniella mentioned during his pre-game show on Monday that he would like Soto back in time for the finale against the Reds on Wednesday. Jim Hendry was on hand for Soto's debut with the Tennessee Smokies on Monday night ... 1-for-2 with a walk and a RBI. When Soto returns, the Cubs should send Micah Hoffpauir down to get him back on track for September.

Speaking of back on track, Aaron Miles might be returning to the Cubs soon. He is reportedly hitting better in Iowa (.253/.267/.299 in 21 games). The Cubs must figure a way to keep him in Triple-A until the rosters expand in September.

B.J. Ryan made his fourth appearance for the I-Cubs on Monday night in New Orleans. Randy Bush went down to watch Ryan throw. The former Blue Jay walked two batters in an inning of work. In four games for Iowa, Ryan has not allowed a run or a hit in 4 2/3 innings but has walked four and struck out three.

Before Monday's adventure in the ninth, Lou Piniella said he was going to try to get Kevin Gregg a couple of days off. Apparently Gregg is dealing with a tired arm ... no pain, just 'a little achy' according to Piniella. It will be interesting to see which pitcher Piniella trots out in the ninth if the game is on the line ...

The following will become a staple in the CCO game previews until it happens ... Jake Fox must be in the starting lineup every day. The Cubs offense is not clicking on the road and Fox would give them another slugger in the middle of the lineup. The Cubs have only four off days left on the schedule and regulars will need rest, Piniella must use Fox until his hot bat goes cold ... and if it never does this season, the Cubs will win a couple of more games that might have lost without him in the lineup. Fox can hold his own at third, in left and right and at first base.

While the offense must do their job against Johnny Cueto, it all begins with Tom Gorzelanny ... and one win at a time.

Tom Gorzelanny reported to the Cubs on Saturday. He reportedly threw a bullpen session for Larry Rothschild on Sunday and will officially be recalled from Triple-A Iowa in time for the game tonight. Gorzelanny has not pitched in a big league game since June 9 against the Braves, a one-inning relief stint ... and he has not started a game in the majors since September 10, 2008.

Gorzelanny was 4-3 in 15 starts in Triple-A this season with a 2.48 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP (30 walks, 85 strikeouts, 73 hits and three home runs allowed in 87 innings). Gorzelanny tossed two complete games and opponents hit just .228 against him.

In his last start on July 27, the southpaw gave up two earned runs on seven hits in 6 2/3 innings with a walk and six strikeouts.

Tom Gorzelanny is 2-2 in five career starts against the Reds with a 7.54 ERA and a 1.90 WHIP.

  • Johnny Cueto - 0-for-1 with a walk
  • Jonny Gomes - 0-for-3
  • Alex Gonzalez - 1-for-4
  • Ryan Hanigan - 0-for-2
  • Brandon Phillips - 2-for-11 with a walk
  • Scott Rolen - 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Willy Taveras - 1-for-6 with a walk
  • Joey Votto - 1-for-3

Johnny Cueto is coming off a loss to the Padres and a horrible month. Cueto gave up six runs on nine hits in five innings to San Diego with two walks and three strikeouts. Cueto finished his worst month in the bigs with a 1-4 record in six starts with an 8.16 ERA and a 2.02 WHIP ... teams hit .355 against him. Cueto's last win came on July 1.

Many think Cueto is simply running out of gas. Last year he worked 174 innings in 31 starts and has already thrown 126 1/3 innings in 21 games ... along with pitching in Winter Ball and in the World Baseball Classic.

The Reds' young right hander is 2-3 in nine home starts this season with a 4.20 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP ... Cueto has been better on the road this year for Dusty Baker (6-5 in 12 starts with a 3.95 ERA and a 1.30 WHIP).

Johnny Cueto is 1-1 in two starts against the Cubs this season with a 2.77 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP. Cueto dominated the Cubs on April 22 at Wrigley. He shutout the Cubs 3-0 and allowed just four hits in seven innings without a walk and three strikeouts. In his last outing against the Cubs on July 25, he gave up four runs on nine hits in six innings with three walks and four strikeouts.

  • Milton Bradley - 0-for-3
  • Mike Fontenot - 0-for-6 with a walk
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 4-for-15 with a double and a walk
  • Tom Gorzelanny - 0-for-2
  • Koyie Hill - 0-for-2
  • Micah Hoffpauir - 0-for-4
  • Derrek Lee - 8-for-19 with 2 doubles, a triple and a walk
  • Aramis Ramirez - 3-for-12 with 2 home runs and 2 walks
  • Alfonso Soriano - 7-for-15 with 3 home runs
  • Ryan Theriot - 8-for-19 with 2 doubles

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • agustin rexach

    Yes but the cubs do not need to take care of the Cardinals, they need to take care of winning games and that will get them to the playoffs. Division or wild card. Another win!!!

  • Jeff

    Damned Cardinals rallied from a 7-5 deficit in the ninth and just went up 12-7 in the 10th on a Pujols grand slam.



    I know nobody wants to hear this, but they're going to be awfully tough to beat down the stretch.

  • CubsfaninBama

    I agree Jeff...I hate the Cardinals, but they have assembled quite a nice lineup.

  • John G.

    Looks like Kevin Gregg was pitching for the Mets in the 8th, 9th and 10th tonight.

  • CubsfaninBama

    First off...I tip my cap to Gorzelanny! What a great first start! So far, the trade is looking great. I don't know why I didn't think about Dempster back to closer, but that is an interesting thought. Guzman probably deserves a couple more chances, but if he doesn't work out we have to try something besides Gregg. If Gorzelanny can stay in the rotation and keep this up, it may be worth looking at.

  • PeteM

    Kruk suggested putting Dempster back to closer.

  • Neil

    Good win ... a season-high nine games over .500

  • PeteM

    I would still give Guzman a shot at closing.

  • SuzyS

    CUBS WIN !!! CUBS WIN !!!



    A Gorzelanny GEM!!!



    The G-man did it !!!!

  • John G.

    Winning close games is always a sign of a good team. So the Cubs decide to make all their wins close ones. (and a few of their losses as well)

  • GaryLeeT

    Geez. Maybe convert Gorzelanny to closer after Lilly gets back.

  • SuzyS

    Maybe Lou should get really creative...



    How about our bullpen starts the game...for the first 3 innings and the starters always start in either the 3rd or 4th inning.



    That way...we'll alwats know how mant runs we need to score!!!

  • John G.

    I seriously think you are on to something Suzy

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • CubsfaninBama

    Ok...so who's next on the closer experiment...geeez!

  • GaryLeeT

    Leave it to the pen to A) Put a game out of reach in a loss. B)Blow a lead. C) Take the joy out of a dominating performance.

  • PeteM

    Guzman always seems to pitch better in close games than with a healthy lead.

  • SuzyS

    Gotta love our bullpen...no one else will.



    Cmon!!!

  • John G.

    Okay!! Now that it's a 3 run lead, it's a save situation and they can bring in Gregg.

  • JimK

    The run his reliever's abetted was greatly outshined by the one he didn't allow early. Soriano played an out into a triple, and Gorzelanny struck out Cubs' killer Votto. Then he got Phillips. Man, that was sensational.

  • Neil

    Good start by Gorzelanny, close the book on him just one run on three hits, a walk, a hit batsman and six strikeouts.



    Guzman with a huge strikeout of Phillips!

  • CubsfaninBama

    Cmon bullpen, don't let this get close!

  • John G.

    Here we go again. I'm getting that sick feeling and it's only one run.

  • John G.

    Gorzy, Grabow, Guzman and Gregg (gag!!)



    The G-Men

  • SuzyS

    GORZELANNY...clap clap clap clap.



    A few more like that and you've found a home in the hearts of Cubs fans!!!

  • John_CC

    Gorrrrrzzzzzzzzeeelllaaaaanny!



    what a great name.

  • John G.

    Didn't that guy play second base for us back in '03 and '04?

  • John G.

    Why? Did they leave Gregg at the hotel?

  • JimK

    Since Gregg has a lot of ups and downs, he's getting a tryout as an elevator operator.

  • John G.

    Trouble is when someone wanted to get off at 9 he took them to 10.

  • SuzyS

    I don't think they have those anymore JimK...are you suggesting he's obsolete?

  • JimK

    They do have operators for relief, Suzy. Like when something goes wrong with the automatic starters.

  • JimK

    John G.....You missed an outstanding (2 hit, 7 IP shutout by our new "find" Tom Gorzelanny, some outstanding defense (except Soriano) and some bats that came to life late in the game.



    It's early, but this one might be pen safe!

  • PeteM

    And Theriot had his high throw to Lee.

  • John G.

    What did I miss?

  • JimK

    Should have said so Gorzy wouldn't become elgible for arbitrtion. I was multi-tasking on DLee.

  • JimK

    It's only one game, but Gorzelanny is doing what he did here in Indy the last few weeks--attacking the strike zone with good stuff. He reminds me of a young Steve Avery, the Braves lefty in the 90's. Hopefully he'll continue to remind us of Gorzelanny.



    I think Suzy said it a few days ago. Gorzo was left at AAA as long as he was so the Pirates wouldn't wouldn't become elgible for arbitration at the end of 2009. I mentioned liking the Grabow and Gorzy adds when the deal was done, and, so far so good!

  • SuzyS

    DLEE !!!...About 3 more runs and we can throw Gregg in there...so his arm falls off.

  • PeteM

    If Gorzy keeps pitching like this Rothchild will have to tweek his motion.

  • Neil

    DLeeeee!!!!!! Number 22!

  • Neil

    Nice shutdown inning for Gorzelanny, 74 pitches after six.

  • GaryLeeT

    Remember last year when Fukudome was credited with inspiring the other hitters to be patient at the plate? Maybe Gorzelanny can inspire the pitching staff with his no walk (so far) outing.

  • Neil

    Gary, great idea! Wouldn't that be nice.

  • Neil

    Kosuke with another hit...

  • PeteM

    Kosuke hitting the ball hard today.

  • JimK

    Gorzy, like Z, another in a long line of slugging Cubs' pitchers.

  • SuzyS

    Gorzy...another "Z" in the making lol.

  • JimK

    You can't stop Kill Hill....

  • Neil

    Koyie with a well-placed two-out single...

  • SuzyS

    Hill!!! We finally score!!!



    Now , if we can get another walk.

  • PeteM

    Maybe Fontenot should have"pulled a muscle"

  • Kegert

    2 run double! Great job Koyie!

  • GaryLeeT

    Come on Cubs. Provide Gorzelanny with a better fate than you did for Wells' first starts.

  • SuzyS

    Wow...5 innings shutout ball bt Gorzy.



    Lets get some darn runs...you can't ask much more of this guy...give hin some support.

  • Neil

    LET'S GO OFFENSE! LET'S GO!!!!

  • Muddleglum

    Anyone know if the Cubs have shown any interest in Heath Bell? Harold Reynolds mentioned he might slip through wavers and come to us. I was wondering if he is just talkin mess, or if it was actually being looked into in reality?

  • Neil

    I have not heard anything since the Internet rumor surfaced well over a month ago.



    I agree with Gary, no way he slips to the Cubs.

  • GaryLeeT

    Heath Bell is only making a million this year. Although it would be a dream come true, I just don't see how he would slip all the way through to the Cubs.

  • Neil

    What a catch by Willy T, took at least a double away...

  • cubbie12

    wow what a catch

  • Neil

    Gotta lay down the bunt here with Kosuke

  • Neil

    Nice at bat by Gorzelanny, got the walk.

  • SuzyS

    Gorzy is dealing !!!



    Hey Charles, did you see Feliz last night for Texas? 101mph!!!

  • SuzyS

    Our offense is anemic again...what's going on?

  • Neil

    Gotta quit swinging at his pitch, wait for a couple of called strikes.

  • Matt Haggard

    I don't know how well received this comment will be but here it goes...



    I'm expecting a good start out of Gorzelanny. And why is that?



    Larry Rothschild.



    Randy Wells, Kevin Hart, the starting five..



    Every guy who has started for us has been brilliant. Granted a lot of those guys have talent beyond belief. But at what point do we start to get off Larry a little bit?



    I think he's done an admirable job this year. And Gorzy having a few good starts will cement my point.



    Now if he could have the same luck with the pen.

  • GaryLeeT

    I hear what you are saying, but it's Mike Mason, the Iowa pitching coach, who would have had more of an opportunity to influence the guys you mentioned.

  • Bryan

    I'm sorry Matt, but I just can't agree with the Rothschild assessment. He couldn't develop Prior, messed up Hill, and now has Marmol all over the release point place.



    I'd take Mazzone, Maddux or Brenly any day over LR as the pitching coach.

  • SuzyS

    Bryan, did you see Hill apologized to the Orioles fans last week for his poor pitching?

  • Bryan

    I did not hear that. Unfortunately the young man has had a tough slide. Ever since we tried to change his delivery to hold on-base runners he's never been the same pitcher. I'm not totally blaming our coaching staff, but reality says he hasn't been the same since. I still remember the game in which he was lights out against the Braves...the local announcers were giving him rave reviews. Kinda like his last hurrah.

  • SuzyS

    It is an unfortunate story...but it seems more mental now than anything.

  • JimK

    Gorzy hits better than Sori too. LOL

  • GaryLeeT

    Even before the start of this game, I think most of us thought this Gorzelanny start would not go well. But the Reds might be the right team to sneak him through in a spot start.

  • Neil

    Nice bloop double by Fontenot...

  • JimK

    Gorzo overcomes Sori's error with 2 great outs!!! WOW.

  • SuzyS

    Good start for Gorzy

  • Matt Haggard

    Gorzy Warriors out of it.



    Speaks a lot to his composure. You know he's gotta have butterflies now as well!

  • Bryan

    Nice catch by our $18m man in left. Geez!

  • Matt Haggard

    Kosuke can do anything that Soriano can do in that spot...except better! =)



    This is the star we were looking for in the winter of '06!

  • Matt Haggard

    How about a five-inning complete game shutout win?



    Not entirely impossible..has happened before!

  • Matt Haggard

    Aaron Who? Second what?



    Shoot me.



    Hi everyone! I hope they get this one in. I want the guys to have a legit day of rest on Thursday.



    And a chance for Lou to play that near-perfect lineup!

  • Neil

    Tarp is off the field. Not expecting any delays at the start.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    That line up would be PERFECT with the addition of Soto in there. Flip flop Soto and Fonty in the order and we are good to go!!

  • Aaron

    Agreed. This is an excellent offense, and it shows that Piniella has finally had it with Bradley batting against righties. He's given him every opportunity to right the ship, but batting around .200 from the left side when that's what you were signed for, and we're in the 2nd to last month of the season....has been plenty long enough for him to get it together, and now it's time to move on. Hoffpauir hasn't been hitting well, so you play the hot hand, and right now, that's Fox. I also think Fontenot should be sat in favor of Baker...but what do I know.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    I'm just not sold on Baker....and he looks like a misfit at second base....I just assume keep our DP combo together...and hope for the best from lil Babe Ruth.



    I would also spot start Fuld occassionally to see what he can do....Fukudome will need a breather anyway playing CF between Soriano and Fox...poor guy!!

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Fukudome - CF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Fox - RF

    Soriano - LF

    Fontenot - 2B

    Hill - C

    Gorzelanny - P

  • SuzyS

    If we're really lucky...some team will claim Miles off of waivers...that's the first thing I would do after activating him.

  • John_CC

    In Aaron Miles' defense he did hit .300+ in over 130 major league games last year. I don't like him, and it was again a really stoopid contract to give him 2 years, totally unnecessary.



    With the idea of this team somehow getting younger next year I looked quickly at the 2010 free agent class on the Cot's link...Justin Upton and Stephen Drew peaked my interest. Otherwise the FA pool doesn't look great. I'd give Felipe Lopez a shot too, tho he'll be 30. Really, any hope at getting younger will have to come through shrewd trades and use of the farm. So unless Jim gets kicked in the asscan, I don't see it happening. Just think, after this season Soriano's contract will be half over! I hate to image what he'll play like in 2014.

  • Aaron

    sorry man...hate to burst your bubble, but Upton and Drew are NOT free agents next year. The only reason they have it listed that way on Cot's is because they are technically "free agents" under team control...if that makes sense. See, guys like Theriot, Fontenot, Marmol, etc. are all "free agents" next year too, and we can decline offering arbitration, thus making them free to sign anywhere (which was going to be the case with Gregg last year until Hendry foolishly traded Ceda for him).



    The only position free agents that intrigue me for next year are:

    IF-Hudson and Iwamura (if Rays decline option...unlikely), Chone Figgins

    OF-Crawford (in unlikely event Rays decline option), Holliday, Ankiel, Blalock.



    *Hudson, etc. replace Fontenot/Miles/Baker, etc. at 2B for us

    **Crawford replaces Fukudome in everyday lineup (if Rays drop him), Ankiel does similar, and we can essentially have him replace Johnson's role on the team. Holliday would replace Bradley or Soriano, whomever we can offload, and Blalock would be our back-up option at 1B and 3B, and would replace Hoffpauir. Though I love Hoffpauir, I love Blalock even more (and he's younger than Hoffy).



    I heard rumors that Jake Fox was going to be sent to instructional league this winter to learn 2B...I don't know if it's true, but that would be a HUGE development. Essentially, he'd become a more younger, powerful version of DeRosa, playing 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, RF, AND catcher. DeRosa could play everything but catcher, and is probably limited at his age now to just corner IF/OF.

  • John_CC

    I actually knew that, or sort of. I guess I just got ahead of myself.



    Hudson: should have been the IN that Hendry pursued LAST winter...but then he got Miles instead.



    Crawford: a legit left handed bat, speed, great defense, the power never developed but I'd take his 12-15HR and 50SBs and .300+ AVG every day over all of the current OF.



    Chone = untility leadoff man! yes!



    Blalock: wouldn't it be great to have veteran backup for Aramis?



    I am just dying for the Gorzzzzelannny start!

  • SuzyS

    Re: Soriano...this is only the 3rd year of an eight year contract...another 5 to go.

  • John_CC

    eewhh...you're right. Dont' know why I thought he'd been around since 06. Guess it just feels like forever. 5 to go! Unbelievable. They have to find a trade partner for Soriano. He really should go back to Texas. He could be a productive DH there for the rest of his career. They'd have to eat half his contract, but it'd be worth it.



    And look at that, Fox gets the start in Right! Thank you, Lou.

  • SuzyS

    I don't think Texas could afford him...even with us eating a lot of salary.

    They had to borrow from mlb just to

    sign draftee's and make payroll.

  • SuzyS

    This has been THE single most frustrating

    season I recall...even without a bat...Blanco is so far superior to Miles it isn't funny.



    Aaron, whats the rules regarding 15 day DL's. If the Cubs did not want to DFA

    Miles...at what point did they HAVE to activate him?

  • Neil

    Suzy, up to 20 days on a rehab assignment for position players, up to 30 days on a rehab assignment for pitchers.

  • SuzyS

    So they HAD to do something with Miles.



    The hole at second gets deeper....at least Fox is in the lineup tonight.



    Bradley and Gregg getting "breathers"...

    I like that.

  • Aaron

    Hey, Miles has been used as a pitcher...perhaps we can find a technicality and banish him for longer

  • Aaron

    LOL...gotta love these "phantom" injuries. "calf strain"....LOL...that's hilarious. They probably were like, "we like you, you're young, and we want to keep you, so go on the DL, and collect a MLB salary, or don't, and you're cut loose, making 1/4 of that in the minors for another team. If you're a player, you'd go along with it too, provided you're getting a major league salary and can still travel with the team. Looks like Samardzija will go down in favor of Miles, and I don't like that...Samardzija's bat is WAY better than Miles...LOL



    isn't it pathetic that a supposed MLB hitter is batting .253 in AAA with a .267 OBP? It's amazing that he's done all of this in 80+ AB's too. I would've given him a pass if it was less than that, but that's about 20 games worth of play, and he could only muster 8 RBI....AND he's a "big leaguer". Really? Even MLB players on injury rehabs crush the ball in AAA...much less the lower levels. Aaron Miles was downright pathetic at Extended Spring Training. Remember, these are guys that are high school level, and are learning the ropes. While Ryan Freel was crushing EXST pitching, going at times 3-for-3 or 3-for-4, or 4-for-4, Miles was hitting 0-fer, or if he did happen to get a hit, it was usually 1-for-4. I know, I paid a lot of attention to EXST stats a few months ago, because I was interested in Hak Ju Lee and Jae Hoon Ha, among others.



    Aaron Miles does NOT belong on a MLB roster, nor does he even belong on a AAA roster...sorry to say. If you're an "established" MLB hitter, and can't even hit AAA pitching consistently, what the hell makes you think you could handle MLB pitching?!? Hendry's an idiot if he allows this to happen. Just admit your damn mistake HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and get it over with...along with demoting Bradley to the bench vs righties, and Gregg to middle relief.



    My goodness his ego really has destroyed this season. I actually believe Piniella when he says, "what do you want me to do?" He's probably been told by Hendry that he has to leave Gregg in the closer's role, and he has to play Bradley everyday regardless. I believe he's actually powerless in the whole situation, because if you look at Lou's resume, he's NEVER been afraid to bench underperformers, regardless of salary or tenure in the league. This year, however, has been filled with idle threats. I think in any normal season, he'd make the necessary changes long ago, but Hendry's pulling all the strings to save his job with the new owner, trying to salvage whatever he can from Miles, Gregg, and Bradley.



    Yes, I think Lou should call it quits as well, as he's had plenty of brain farts this year with handling the team, and he looks tired, but still, I think Hendry's hand-cuffed him more than any of us could imagine both in terms of talent, AND with directions to play these jokers.

  • Grant

    im with u aaron but i still have hope for this team to make it too the playoffs

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    They must have a lot of confidence in:



    Fontenot, Baker and the great Aaron Miles.

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