Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Reds - 08/03/09

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Game One Hundred-Four: Cubs (55-48) vs. Reds (45-59)
Game Time - 6:10pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WCIU/ESPN Monday Night Baseball - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 175
Location - Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati

Randy Wells (7-4, 2.84/1.15) vs. Aaron Harang (5-12, 4.50/1.46)

After what had to be a long flight from Miami to Cincinnati on Sunday night, the Cubs will go back to work and try to rebound from Sunday's loss behind Randy Wells. The Cubs will enter play tonight a half game back of the idle Cardinals who open a three-game set on Tuesday night in New York.

The Reds will have a much different look than the team that faced the Cubs at Wrigley ten days ago. Dusty Baker's bunch continues to deal with injury after injury and will be without Chris Dickerson for the series. Jerry Hariston, Jr. was traded to the Yankees ... and Scott Rolen was acquired from the Blue Jays for Edwin Encarnacion.

Scott Rolen was hit in the helmet on Sunday by former teammate Jason Marquis in the seventh inning. Rolen left for precautionary reasons and his status for tonight's game is in question. The Reds are reeling right now. They have lost six in a row and nine of their last ten.

Aramis Ramirez is expected back in the starting lineup after missing Sunday's finale in Florida. Lou Piniella must find a spot for Jake Fox in the starting lineup if Ramirez is back. The Cubs need offense and Fox's bat should be utilized until it goes cold.

The Cubs are in need of another solid outing from Randy Wells. Not only is the bullpen spent, it is in disarray after three bad days in South Florida. Wells has pitched like a veteran more often than a rookie this season ... and another quality start and win would go a long way towards righting the ship after dropping two of three to start this 10-game trip.

Lou Piniella 'joked' Carlos Zambrano could see some action out of the pen during the series. Let's hope the starters (Wells tonight, Tom Gorzelanny on Tuesday and Rich Harden on Wednesday) put together long efficient outings that keep Piniella from using Zambrano until the opener in Colorado on Friday night.

While the offense must do their job against Aaron Harang, it all begins with Randy Wells ... and one win at a time.

Randy Wells is coming off his best start as a big league pitcher. Wells stepped up when his team needed it after a 13-inning marathon the night before. Wells tossed eight innings of shutout ball and allowed just six hits to the Astros. Wells combined with Mitch Atkins on a 12-0 Cubs win. Wells struck out only one and walked two.

Wells finished a very good month of July with a 5-1 record and a 3.23 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP. Teams have hit him better the second time through the league but Wells has still gotten results.

Tonight will be Wells' third start of the year against the Reds and his second at Great American Ball Park. Wells is 1-0 in two starts against Cincinnati this season with a 3.55 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP. The Reds have hit him to the tune of a .280 batting average. Wells beat the Reds and Aaron Harang back on July 24 at Wrigley ... his only mistake, a three-run homer by Aaron Harang (three runs on seven hits with a walk and five strikeouts in six innings).

  • Jonny Gomes - 1-for-6
  • Alex Gonzalez - 0-for-6
  • Ryan Hanigan - 3-for-6
  • Aaron Harang - 1-for-1 with a home run
  • Laynce Nix - 0-for-3
  • Brandon Phillips - 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Willy Taveras - 1-for-3
  • Joey Votto - 1-for-3

Aaron Harang is coming off a rough outing against the Padres in which he allowed seven runs on nine hits walked four and struck out five in seven innings. Harang has not posted a win since May 25 ... and is past due for a good outing.

Harang has pitched much better at home this year (4-5 in 11 starts with a 3.57 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP) than on the road (1-7 in 11 starts with a 5.45 ERA and a 1.67 WHIP). In July, Harang was 0-4 in six starts with a 6.00 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP ... teams hit .309 against him.

Tonight will be Harang's third start of the year against the Cubs. He is 1-1 in the first two with a 2.77 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP. Harang beat the Cubs on April 23 at Wrigley 7-1 and allowed only one run on seven hits in seven innings with a walk and two strikeouts. The Cubs beat Harang on July 24 at Wrigley and Lou's offense plated four runs on nine hits in six innings ... with a walk and six strikeouts. Harang's better outings of the year have come against the Cubs.

  • Milton Bradley - 2-for-8 with a double and a walk
  • Mike Fontenot - 5-for-15 with a double, 2 home runs and 2 walks
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 5-for-13 with a double and 2 walks
  • Sam Fuld - 0-for-3
  • Koyie Hill - 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Micah Hoffpauir - 2-for-7 with a walk
  • Derrek Lee - 14-for-52 with 2 doubles, 5 home runs and 6 walks
  • Aramis Ramirez - 15-for-46 with a double, a triple, 4 home runs and 2 walks
  • Alfonso Soriano - 7-for-28 with 2 doubles and a walk
  • Ryan Theriot - 10-for-33 with a double and 2 walks
  • Randy Wells - 0-for-2

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • John G.

    If the offense would get some of those guys in from third when there is 0 or 1 out, then maybe we wouldn't even have to have this discussion.

  • jw

    Gregg pitches up in the zone and you cannot have a guy that throws more than one homer per 10 innings as a closer...its not just a "bad outting" or "a couple of bad pitches". At this point its only going to get tougher because teams will figure they have a chance in the 9th. When our starters get frustrated it could be a downhill slide.



    Marmol...for all of his stuff cannot control his fastball and you can only go so far with a slider on a regular basis. He is too excitable and when he stresses his slider hangs like the pitch to Gonzales as the announcers aptly pointed out. He should have a cold one before his outtings to loosen up. By the time he gets cranky and irritable the inning will be over.



    I have never been able to figure out why the Cubs under McPhail and Hendry cannot buy or develop a quality closer...right now I'd give Guzman a shot. He has battled all year and might have the mental make-up to do it. Or put a starter in their or hope for a quick deal and a waiver trade cause Marmol and Gregg (barring a watershed moment in the teaching legacy of Rothschild or a generous dousing of holy water) are not the answer and more ugly moments are lurking just around the corner of the collective Cub conscience.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • SuzyS

    CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!!!



    You know, I think Marmol should close the rest of the way...It wakes Lou up.



    I don't think I ever saw a manager slapping the rail like that...it was

    impressive...even if Marmol wasn't.



    Put up the W

  • John G.

    Yeah, Lou was pretty animated, wasn't he?

  • Charles n Texas

    Suzy, it's obvious Piniella is feeling a lot of the frustration we all express on this blog. He probably needs a shrink added to his staff to work with the heads of these pitchers who can't throw strikes coming out of the pen. That certainly didn't look like a serious contending ballclub in Florida or out there tonight....seemingly a lack of what I'd call a "killer instinct" or something akin.

  • SuzyS

    Charles...couldn't agree more...we do not look like contenders...the single most frustrating thing is we have MANY

    of the pieces but like a Shakespearean

    lead in a play...have fatal flaws.



    Some of the pieces arem't being used enough...and some shouldn't be used at all...



    If you look at what our starters have done the last 4 games...we should have swept...but between the pen and spotty

    offense...we split...horrendously.



    We might squeak into the playoffs...either wild card or division winner...but unless we fix the problems...it's likely 3 and out again.

  • Charles n Texas

    Totally agree. Well, we're off for Colorado tomorrow and will see at least one game of the Cubs/Rockies series. Of course, I am hoping to say hello to Micah, but a few things I've read about him possibly/probably being sent down when Soto is activated on Thursday scares me that he might not even be in Denver. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but who would get sent down?

  • JimK

    Tomorrow we likely see Guzman when we need a closer. Marmol needed to allow no more than one runner and throw no more than 15-16 pitches. I still think Marmol will get there.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Cubs Win!!! Cubs Win!!!



    Well....the cardiac kid does it......



    We did what we had to do...win on a day the Cards were off....

  • Northsider

    Back in first!

  • JimK

    Never a doubt!!!! I'm just kidding. Marmol was not impressive.

  • Neil

    Breathe!!! CUBS WIN!!!

  • John G.

    There was NEVER a doubt!!!



    Just an easy save.

  • John G.

    What an at-bat. DAMN!!!

  • Northsider

    Baseball Tonight's Gammons or Olney is gonna have fun talking about the Cubs pen troubles tonight, lol

  • SuzyS

    Dempster.lol

  • cubbieblue25

    Who was the last 'game over' closer we have had?



    Mitch Williams? Lee Smith?

  • John G.

    I can't take much more of this.

  • CubsfaninBama

    For the love...why can't we find someone that can come in and get three outs...Damn this is irritating!

  • cubbieblue25

    Fail! next!

  • cubbieblue25

    ridiculous we got two guys warming up in the ninth. this is sad.

  • JimK

    The ump missed strike three on Gomes. But Marmol gets him.

  • Northsider

    Here we go again Carlos....walk the f'ing lead off man!

  • JimK

    O.K. Carlos. Here's your chance to prove that the old guy knows what he's talking about. (Note that I'm not hiding in the background.)

  • cubbieblue25

    greg have to rest his flipper?

  • John G.

    Marmol is 3 for 7 in save situations. Not a stellar record.

  • John G.

    A save situation.

    IT'S KEVIN GREGG TIME!!!!





    just kidding.

  • cubbieblue25

    will we see closer tryouts tonight?

  • pete187

    Why would we? Gregg is our closer.





    LOL..I could barely type that out with a straight face.

  • JimK

    Baker needs a longer bat. His looks like a #2 pencil.

  • JimK

    Votto leaned into a pitch trots to first.



    Yes!!! Baker turns the double play.

  • John G.

    Whew!! That was close.

  • Neil

    A perfectly timed double play...

  • CubsfaninBama

    We can't use Grabow every night!

  • Northsider

    That didn't touch him!!!

  • Northsider

    Very superb is right! He's a solid part of the staff now.

  • JimK

    We have Stevens and Grabow warming in the pen. That's encouraging.



    What a game, the terrile hitting Alex Gonzalez gets no-on homer. An out and another hit. Wells is done. A supurb outing, Randy!!

  • Northsider

    Oops! Forgot Wells was still in there :(

  • GaryLeeT

    Jinxed him.

  • John G.

    Is that Gregg disguised as Wells?

  • Northsider

    Way to go again Pen!!!!!!

  • GaryLeeT

    Glad to see Wells in the 8th. If he can keep the inning under 12 pitches, I say, let him go for the complete game shutout.

  • Northsider

    Was the Gregg warming up....OMG!!!

  • John G.

    I guess it was the ump. He's been tossed.

  • Neil

    It was the ump, he was ejected.

  • GaryLeeT

    Look at Weathers jawing with the ump. The K-zone showed every called ball was a ball.

  • John G.

    Who was Weathers barking at as he walked off the mound?

  • Northsider

    That's right Weathers.......blame the ump, lol.

  • Curt in Madison

    Really?

  • JimK

    Weathers makes look Soriano look terrible with two 90 mph fast balls belt high and a slider just off the plate. Thats the savvy that's kept David in the bigs for 18 years.

  • Charles n Texas

    Also that's the kind of at-bat for Soriano that makes many of us wonder who is the real Alfonso. Weathers should not have gotten out of that pinch like he did. Seems we post practically every game that Cubs didn't take advantage of important scoring opportunities.....and so often it comes back to haunt them!

  • John G.

    2 of the 3 pitches that sorry-oh-no swing on were outside.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Soriano officially SUCKS again! What the hell.

  • cubbie12

    bradley goes up there looking for walks...im sorry lou it is time for fox to start everyday in right vs right handers and milton vs lefties

  • John G.

    Shows what I know. Maybe he'll walk in a run now.

  • JimK

    My man, DLee, does it again. An RBI double. And now the oldster, David Weathers will show us his vetern guile. "Guile" is the baseball term for medium-slow nothing ball.

  • John G.

    Yeah but a free ride to ARam so he can pitch to Bradley is a smart move.

  • John G.

    Wells has 95 pitches so far. Can he make it through 9 so we don't have to see the bullpen?

  • GaryLeeT

    That makes me feel much better.

  • Neil

    Big double by Lee...

  • John G.

    Good move Dusty. LOL

  • John G.

    Dusty's gonna leave him in. Must be the Mark Prior thing.

  • JimK

    Oops....Harrang is still in there.

  • JimK

    Of course we were all worried as Wells struggled. But he only needed one out--and he got it!! Let's score one or two against older-than-dirt Weathers who throws mostly savvy these days.

  • ripsnorter

    Wells would be in the minors if it weren't for DL issues with Dumpster, Hardin, Z, and Lilly. If they had not gone on the DL and stayed there "in rotation" to keep Wells starting every 5 games, he'd be in Iowa right now. SO there is no real diffo between Fox and Wells, except Fox is behind a "healthy" Bradley, Sorry-oh-no, ARam, DLee and Hilll.

  • John G.

    I swear, Wells has got to get a couple votes for Cubs' MVP.



    So far at least.

  • CubsfaninBama

    I look at Wells situation and think about Fox. Wells was called up, did his job, and was rewarded with a spot in the rotation. Fox was called up, did his job, and gets to sit on the bench until Lou feels like playing him. I just don't get it.

  • Rob

    The offense has been striking out a whole lot these last 4 games. Perhaps scoring all those runs in the last 2 Astro games tired them out.



    I figured out the new way the Cubs are swept in the playoffs. The offense shows up but Gregg blows 3 saves and the Cubs are out of the playoffs.

  • Northsider

    The time for the pen is getting near, what's Lou gonna do???????

  • JimK

    Little Babe and Wells seem to be the only guy who Harrang doesn't fool tonight. And now it's up to Wells to hold them again in the 7th.

  • GaryLeeT

    Watching Hill bat is beyond sad. I really feel for the guy.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Hill has to be tired...I don't see why Lou wouldn't let Fox catch a game before Soto comes back. The worst that could happen is they have to put Hill in later to relieve him. They could double switch and put Fox in the OF somewhere.

  • JimK

    Lawrence Wells says that R. Wells does the shutdown polka one more time. Ah one...Ah two...Ah three. Now, as Neil and Mae West say about scoring, too much of a good thing is wonderful. Let's try that Blue.

  • SuzyS

    Soriano's hot streak didn't last that long...did it?

  • CubsfaninBama

    We need a few more Randy Wells on our team...he eats up innings and keeps runs to a minimum. We would probably be in trouble if he hadn't come along and pitched like he has.

  • GaryLeeT

    Only Harang's pitch count will keep him from a career high in strike outs.

  • JimK

    Wells lost a little of his command in the 5th, but gave up nothing. Maybe we get one or 2 more from him. That puts us in the pen cafeteria line where we take our chances with the mystery meats. LOL Do score a couple more, Blue.

  • Neil

    Offense must tack on ... comment sponsored by Captain Obvious

  • JimK

    Regardless of Gregg's status, I want more than 3 runs tonight. Dome's 2 out double gives us a chance here in the 5th.

    But Riot grounds out.

  • JimK

    The announcer mentioned Damon Berryhill who had a long stint of consecutive games at catcher. I wonder where he is now.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Damon Berryhill is the manager of the Ogden Raptors a Los Angeles Dodgers Minor League Team. Looks like it's a rookie league.

  • JimK

    Thanks Joe.

  • GaryLeeT

    Looks like the Cub's offense thinks 3 will be more than enough for tonight. They must have gotten the word that Gregg is not available to close.

  • JimK

    Alfonso is being embarassed again with the low breaking stuff. The bats need to pick it up.

  • JimK

    Another strong inning from Wells. Can you do some TACKIN' ON bats? Five or six usually works best in the Red's park.

  • GaryLeeT

    I know the players have too let it go, but I am still pissed about last night's game. Could have taken the series (or even swept them really) and had a 2 game road winning streak, with the very sweepable Reds team next. Unless they miraculously take 3 of 4 from the blazing hot Rocks

  • GaryLeeT

    that game last night could change the whole complexion of the trip.

  • JimK

    Nice shutdown inning by Wells. Not much evidence of carryover baggage from yesterday.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

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    LIVE Draft is this Sunday at 7PM PST.....



    Let me know and I will give you info to join....



    Someone was Running Riot last year in our league from CCO but I dont remember who....

  • pete187

    I was Running Riot last year..thanks for letting me play. I actually like the Yahoo format a lot better than the CBS league. If you still need someone let me know though.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    We do need someone if you want to join...

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    I might be interested.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Would love to have ya....



    cbssportsline.com



    private league: Fantasy Freaks



    password: dabears



    Join asap so that you get the last spot....live draft on Sunday at 9PM your time.

  • SuzyS

    Wow...Fontenot...who woulda guessed?

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Oh and Oral Hershiser is suddenly wearing a Halo!!!

  • Kegert

    Way to break out to the slump Fonte!

  • Neil

    It's the LITTLE BABE RUTH! Nice three-run shot.

  • Matt Haggard

    Little Babe!



    Hell Yeah!

  • carmelo

    Soto rbi single in the 1st

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