Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Cardinals - 07/10/09

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Game Eighty-Three: Cubs (41-41) vs. Cardinals (47-40)
Game Time - 1:20pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WGN TV - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 183
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Rich Harden (5-5, 5.35/1.49) vs. Chris Carpenter (6-3, 2.32/0.82)

The Cubs return to the field this afternoon, weather permitting, after a much-needed day off. The Cubs showed a lot of improvement in Pittsburgh last week and carried the momentum into the four-game set against the Brewers seven days ago ... but then went back to struggling with the bat in the final two games of the Braves series. Lou Piniella's crew must crank up the offense this weekend and play smart fundamental baseball ...

The Cubs enter play this afternoon 3 1/2 games back of the division leading Redbirds and the next three days (four games) could impact the rest of the season. The Cubs are 3-6 in the first nine games against St.. Louis this season (2-1 at Wrigley Field) and since 2006, the Redbirds are 8-18 at the Friendly Confines. The Cardinals swept the three game series in St. Louis the last time these two teams faced off ... the Cubs managed just two runs the entire series. The Cardinals do not return to Chicago after Sunday's day-night doubleheader this year and the longtime rivals face each other only three more times this season (September 18 - September 20 in St. Louis). If the Cubs do not play well in this series and keep the Cardinals within reach they could very well be staring up at them in the standings for the remainder of the year.

The Cardinals will be without Mark DeRosa for the series. The former Cub is on the DL ducking Ted Lilly once again ... but Ryan Ludwick is heating up and Albert Pujols is the best player in the game.

Rich Harden stated he was embarrassed with his last performance and if does not pitch better this afternoon this game will be over in a hurry. The Cubs had chances against Braden Looper but against Chris Carpenter the scoring opportunities figure to be few and far between.

Geovany Soto is expected to miss the entire series and could be placed on the DL before the game according to Jim Hendry. Soto is expected to be re-evaluated on Friday morning and the Cubs will make the decision then ... Jake Fox will serve as the Cubs' backup catcher with Koyie Hill as the starter behind the plate for the entire weekend.

Reports on Thursday indicated Alfonso Soriano would be back in the starting lineup in the fifth spot behind Aramis Ramirez with Milton Bradley possibly hitting behind Soriano. With Soriano and Bradley struggling mightily right now, it might not be a good idea to put them back-to-back in the lineup ...

The Cubs are expected to recall Jeff Stevens from Iowa to replace Kevin Hart on the active roster. Hart was optioned down on Thursday to make another start in the minors before returning to the Cubs after the break (his start could come with the I-Cubs or the Peoria Chiefs). Hart is expected to start either the fourth game of the Nationals series or the first game against the Phillies on July 20.

Bob Brenly has the weekend off and former Cub, Keith Moreland will join Len Kasper in the booth ... maybe Zonk can get the offense going against Chris Carpenter.

While the offense has their work cut out for them against Chris Carpenter, it all starts with Rich Harden ... and one win at a time.

Just when it appeared Rich Harden hit rock bottom against the Tigers two starts ago, he went out in his last start and proved it could get worse. Rich Harden said he was embarrassed about the shortest outing of his big league career against the Brewers. Harden barely made it out of the second inning after giving up seven runs on eight hits with a walk and a strikeout. Harden served up two more home runs and following the five-run first inning, the game was basically over before the Cubs swung at their first pitch.

With Ryan Dempster sidelined from two to four weeks (most reports are indicating a month and three starts), the Cubs need Rich Harden to step up and pitch to his ability ... especially at home.

There is no other way to put it ... Rich Harden has been horrible this year at Wrigley, especially during the day. Harden is 2-4 in eight home starts with a 7.65 ERA and a 1.67 WHIP. Opponents have hit a robust .289 against him at Wrigley and nine of the 15 home runs he's served up have come at his unFriendly Confines.

Harden's season must start today ... and it will be far from easy.

Rich Harden was on the winning end the last time he faced the Cardinals. The 10-3 Cubs win in St. Louis was one of Harden's best of the season. He allowed two runs on four hits with two walks and nine strikeouts. The Cubs need that kind of performance this afternoon in order to win the first game of the series.

Today will be Harden's fourth career start against Albert Pujols and Company ... he is 2-1 in the first three with a 3.44 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP.

  • Rick Ankiel - 1-for-3 with a home run
  • Ryan Ludwick - 0-for-6
  • Yadier Molina - 1-for-4 with a home run and 2 walks
  • Albert Pujols - 1-for-6 with a double and 2 walks
  • Colby Rasmus - 0-for-3
  • Skip Schumaker - 1-for-6
  • Joe Thurston - 1-for-2

Chris Carpenter is the definition of an ace and is one of the two reasons the Cardinals are in first place in the NL Central. Carpenter has given more than a boost to a questionable-at-best-rotation without him. After spending the first month of the year on the DL, Carpenter has been just about unbeatable in 12 starts since his first start back against the Cubs on May 20.

Carpenter was 2-3 in six starts last month with a 3.67 ERA and a 0.89 WHIP. In 41 2/3 innings he issued just five walks while striking out 25. To put it simply, Chris Carpenter will not beat himself.

The Reds managed only one run on five hits in seven innings against Carpenter his last time out. Carpenter walked only one batter and in his last three starts (17 innings), two free passes and 15 strikeouts.

The Cubs have always struggled against Carpenter and must take advantage of the one or two opportunities they will have today. Following his last start against the Cubs, Derrek Lee said he was the best pitcher he's faced this year ...

This afternoon will be Carpenter's second start of the year against the Cubs (no runs on three hits in five innings with two walks and four strikeouts on May 20) and the 16th of his career (8-3 in 15 games with a 2.93 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP).

  • Milton Bradley - 3-for-11 with a home run and a walk
  • Mike Fontenot - 0-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 0-for-4 with a walk
  • Reed Johnson - 0-for-4
  • Derrek Lee - 13-for-40 with 2 doubles and 2 walks
  • Aramis Ramirez - 11-for-39 with 3 doubles, a home run and a walk
  • Alfonso Soriano - 12-for-31 with a double and 2 home runs
  • Geovany Soto - 2-for-4
  • Ryan Theriot - 1-for-3 with a double

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • cc002600

    wanna hear something interesting ?? per the guys on the score today, You know what is behind the comments from soriano about wishing he had some notice about not playing the next day ??



    Well, they say that Sori is a biiiiiiig partier and likes to spend his nights in the gin mills. so if he knew wasn't going to be in lineup next day, I guess that means he could have really let loose the night before. Nice !!



    It does makes sense when you think about it. What a jackass this guy is.



    and oh by the way, when Pie was here they were very worried about him being influenced by soriano.



    don't worry, guys, only 5 more years to go with this guy !!!!!! wooho !!

  • Boseph Heyden

    And that's totally not true at all. A girl I went to high school with used to hook up with Eric Patterson when he was a Cub, who just so happened to be sharing a suite with Soriano. Patterson would take her out all the time, but she said Soriano was always asleep when they got back between 3-4 in the morning. Now between 3 and 4 may not seem like a big deal, but it really is if you consider that most bars in Chicago don't close until 3am or so, and that most people who go out in Chicago that don't plan to go to an afterhours bar wouldn't get home until around 3 or 4. No sir, the Chicago nightlife is a forte of mine and Soriano is no partier.



    Now, that's not to say he's the most bashful person in the world, according to this girl. Let's just say he's given her an eyefull one or two times leaving his room.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Is the girl hot?

  • Boseph Heyden

    Not particularly, no. But when you're a bench player for a big league team, you really can't expect a super-model for those types of hookups.

  • Charles n Texas

    Hoffpauir, Fox, Blanco, and Fuld should become Cub regulars sooner than later.

  • Nick

    At least the shark got the first 1,2,3 inning of the game. It only took 8 innings. Can't win to many games when your team does that and they just stop scoring runs.

  • ripsnorter

    Cubs got 9 hits, 1 HR, 2 2b, 6 singles. Can't score without the HR.

  • ripsnorter

    Hoffpauir ought to play more.

  • ripsnorter

    Blanco rotting on the bench. Fontenot not hitting. His one hit was a dribbler that Carpenter kicked. Blanco can do that a with better glove.



    I told you before the season began: last year's collapse vs. L.A. is still hurting. And JHendry is incompetent.

  • Charles n Texas

    Totally agree on all accounts, Rip!!

  • SuzyS

    Charles...you were right and I was wrong...too many holes on this team...and no one move to fix it.

    Blue and down. But hte sun will come out.

  • Charles n Texas

    Unfortunately, Suzy, it's not difficult to be "right" when predicting negatives about this Cub team and season. Gee, I wish Micah, Fox, Blanco could see a lot more action. Piniella sounds almost pitiful; he can't figure out what to do...as you say, far too many holes on this team. Hendry has undone the club with all his disastrous moves and they can't recover any time soon.

  • ripsnorter

    What's the deal with Bob Brenly getting three days off? Did he make too many negative comments about Sorry-oh-no?



    Stevens paying dividends on the DeRosa trade.

  • SuzyS

    Later boys...better days are coming...but I don't know when.

  • cubbie12

    mike fontenot doesnt even care he just struk out

  • ripsnorter

    IF Cards sweep, season hopes for the Cubs is completely over. They ought to be sellers, but the contracts are so expensive, they can't sell.



    It has been MORE than a month since Sorry-oh-no hit a HR. And he doesn't drive in runs. ANd he doesn't catch the ball. And he doesn't hustle. Other than that, he's worth $138 million!

  • Bryan

    Don't worry...Soriano will turn it around! LOL!!!!!



    The guy is a BUM. Just watch, he and Bradley will start hitting after the team is 10 games out.

  • ripsnorter

    Sorry-oh-no dropped a flyball with the bases loaded. A run scored, but the threw the ball to second for an out. So Sorry-oh-no did not receive an error, but got an outfield assist! Looks great in the box score, but it cost the Cubs a run.



    But let's be positive: it didn't show up in the box score! lol

  • Jim

    Astros just picked up Chris Coste on waivers after philly released him. Would have been nice to have him as the backup catcher.

  • Rocky

    Soriano=assclown

  • Charles n Texas

    Well, I can just hear Piniella's postgame press conference, "What can I say, we just didn't play well today. You can't give up runs like we did and expect to win." No lie? Why didn't we think of that? He has no clue how to right this sinking ship and it shows...I personally think there probably isn't any way this season will be rescued. We all could see it coming, couldn't we?

  • cloycub13

    Well Cub fans we have to hope and pray for 3 of 4 but I agree the cards are the class of the division and we are light years behind right now. Tomorrow at 3PM is a must win game. ABSOLUTE MUST WIN!

  • Bryan

    Thank goodness Aaron is away today, and missing this. This game would really inspire him.

  • SuzyS

    Bryan...we'll hear it sooner or later...and it will be all true and salt in a wound.

  • Rocky

    The Cubs are a circus today and Soriano is the head assclown.

  • Boseph Heyden

    And how is that exactly? At least Soriano got on base. There's plenty of other guys who haven't. Is it his fielding? Cause last I checked he's got an outfield assist to his credit.



    No, there is no reason he is. It's just "trendy" to hate Soriano nowadays.

  • Rocky

    The guy doesn't hustle, can't run for sh$%t anymore, can't hit a breaking ball, swings at down and away breaking pitches everytime to strike out, and his fielding fundamentals stink. I've seen little league players with better fundamentals. The guy obviously is impossible to coach because if he would listen to his coaches and take things to heart then we would see some fundamental changes and differences in batting and fielding.

  • Wilson, T

    I'm not sure why trendy is in quotes, but Soriano definitely lost his focus in the field today. He should have 2 assists. How do you let Pujols go first to third on a base hit to left when all Soriano had to do was move three paces to his right? How does it take 30 minutes to dig the ball out of the corner and allow a standup 3B to Pujols? Soriano should take time off to rest his knee.

  • cc002600

    and oh by the way, smardijza is overrated....he'll let in 2 runs, I bet

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    This is why the Cardinals are the class of the NL Central. This was a statement game.

  • SuzyS

    Like the rest of the season...we've stated it.

  • cc002600

    Guys, I can't say it enough times.....good Defense is soooooooo underrated.



    Bad defense will absolutely kill you. It never ceases to amaze me

    that Lou keeps putting that slug out there in LF every day, AND EVERY DAY HE TURNS SINGLES INTO DOUBLES, DOUBLES INTO TRIPLES, AND DROPS OR MISPLAYS EASY FLYBALLS. 2 MORE EXAMPLES TODAY.



    In case anyone forgot he turned Pujols double into triple by dropping the ball twice in the corner when he tried to pick it up. And of course the dropped popup with the bases loaded.



    HOW CAN YOU KEEP PUTTING HIM OUT THERE !!!!! His knee is clearly affecting his play.



    PUT HIM ON THE DL !!!! or release the guy.



    its embarrassing.



    and oh by way, I didn't even mention his pathetic hitting. his numbers speak for themselves.











  • SuzyS

    The only good thing to say here...is I don't think Heilman will be wit us 2010.

    The Mets screamed him out of town last year...and it looks like we have to do the same...thanks JH.

  • Charles n Texas

    This is a pitiful exhibition, isn't it, Suzy. Now that the Cardinals see up front and in person just how bad the Cubs are playing in this game, it might get even uglier before the weekend is out. I don't think I can stand to watch (or listen to) a club playing such poor baseball in such important games.

  • Wilson, T

    Ok when youre going bad at the plate like Soriano is, you don't carry it out to the field. Clearly he let his troubles at the plate get to him after he lined out to end the previous inning. Pujols 1st to 3rd on a routine base hit, and then the drop. Get him out of there.

  • Charles n Texas

    Turn out the lights, the party's over! No big surprise....Soriano is just a shell of the player he once was and an embarrassment in the field. He shouldn't be out there, but Piniella doesn't have the guts to sit him. Those "warts" on this Cub team I have mentioned several times recently are all exposed in their ugliness in this preview of things to come!

  • Bryan

    Essentially it's "game, set, match", and over!



    And nice to see Lou's comatose look during that 6th inning debacle.

  • Neil

    Speechless...

  • mark

    MY GOD....Soriano is a clown! He's a joke out in left...125 million?? It's amazing...Heilamn is just as bad...WTF???

    EVERYTIME, Heilman walks a potential run. OH wait until Marmol gets in. Lou is just as bad for playing these idiots!

  • ripsnorter

    Let's be positive: at least the crowd is booing. I'm not the only one tired of the Cubs' losing ways.

  • cubbie12

    aaron heilman shouldnt be allowed to put a major league uniform on

  • ripsnorter

    No E for Sorry-oh-no. No E for Rameriz. But they both were E's in truth.

  • ripsnorter

    7-3. Sorry-oh-no does it again.

  • ripsnorter

    3 BB this inning for Heilman. Now you know why he has been totally ineffective this year: no control.

  • ripsnorter

    E-Rameriz.

  • ripsnorter

    Reed Johnson is a very valuable platoon outfield with great fielding instincts.



    How's that for positive??



    Heilman stinks.

  • cloycub13

    How about a DP here, do not want Pujerk up with men on.

  • cloycub13

    or a walk to get to Pujerk with 2 men on Great Job Heilly

  • cloycub13

    Again on Heilman...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



    .3 IP 1 single 2 walks

  • cloycub13

    or .1 however you are supposed to put that.

  • cubbie12

    even tho he doesnt have the hits to show it, soriano is def hitting the ball better

  • cloycub13

    Was gonna say nee a clutch hit here but Sori is up.

  • SuzyS

    LOL...BUT IT HURTS

  • cloycub13

    I would have gladly eaten some juicy crow there but felt I was safe posting that and yes it does hurt.

  • SuzyS

    Good time for ARAMs 1st Homer back from DL.

  • SuzyS

    Good job to get out of that...Harden.

    101 pitches...that should be it for him...wish Ascanio were still up...don't

    really feel confident in Shark yet...we'll see.



    We need to score...

  • cloycub13

    Harden here is a little free pitching advice from a totally incompetent non professional...THROW STRIKES ESPECIALLY TO PITCHERS WHO HOLD A .143 AVG.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Harden is a better hitter than he is a pitcher as of late.

  • mar

    WHAY THE FUCK do you pitch to PUJOLS???? He has 41 HR's!!!! YOU BUST HIM INSIDE ALL GAME AND IF YOU HIT HIM....SO WHAT....EVERY F-ING TIME!! Ludwick should get one in the back now...man up Harden....with that name (RICH HARDEN) you should have SOME BALLS!!

  • ripsnorter

    Harden--can he play LF?

  • SuzyS

    Harden 2 for 2?

  • BUBrave

    Harden's got a nice little stroke.

  • SuzyS

    Good job by Harden on sut down inning...

    but at 76 pitches after 4...not much left.



    Need to score here to allow for Pujols solo homer next inning.

  • cloycub13

    Psychic much?!?!

  • SuzyS

    You caught that...HAH!!!

  • Charles n Texas

    Some things are uncertain but Pujols in a big game like today is a certainty. Must be nice to have a guy like that who puts a team on its back and carries it that well. Nice call, I guess, Suzy!

  • GaryLeeT

    You know, I say those things just dare them to prove me wrong. I am glad I'm wrong about this games prediction. Still, lately, unless Lee homers, they don't win.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Need a shutdown inning.

  • Charles n Texas

    Harden can't stand prosperity...don't know what's wrong with him but something isn't right. Boy, the Cubs need him to deliver in a big game like today!

  • Neil

    DLeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

  • Chris

    D-LEE!!!

  • SuzyS

    YES !!!!!!!!!DLEE !!!!!!!!!

  • waldo7239117

    DLEE DLEE

  • Charles n Texas

    Just what most of us were afraid of....this may not even be competitive. You don't think Carpenter will throw a shutout do you? Nothing like sending a message to the Cardinals early....the WRONG message.

  • GaryLeeT

    Harden at Wrigley vs Carpenter? Come on, this game was over before it started. Who cares if the Cards score 1, 3 or 6 runs, it doesn't matter.

    I think that the DL stints of Dempster and Soto are the straws that broke the camel's back and this team has officially checked out. Go Bears.

  • SuzyS

    Gary...have faith...we are going to take this one.

  • Dorasaga

    The Faithful will of a Cubs win never gives up.



    Yeah, this is a 500 team, sure.



    But we should win this one, to accomodate the "standing boo," for the least.

    :-)

  • cloycub13

    on gamecast... did I miss a standing boo...darn that would have been fun to see.

  • cloycub13

    AINT DONE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cloycub13

    Harden helping the cause and narrowing the staff's batting gap to Milton...thanks Aaron.

  • cloycub13

    I say thanks because I believe it was you that mentioned the pitching staff's HR's RBI's and Avg compared to Milton. They were sobering to say the least.

  • cloycub13

    They have their work cut out for them early...this has not been a good sign as of late...let's buck the trend.

  • Mark

    Here we go............game over.Playing like a bunch of clowns again, letting Poujols beat ya. We ain't scoriing ANY runs. 3 is enough for Carpenter. He just stuck out the side last inning. Maybe next time.

  • ripsnorter

    Hardin ain't got it.

  • ripsnorter

    Hoffpauir woulda had that ball that Lee just missed. Sorry-oh-no saved that one from being an inside the park home run. Pujols can really run!

  • GaryLeeT

    Talk about being over matched from pitch one, Fontenot stood no chance.

  • SuzyS

    Just looking at gameday...Harden's fastball appears to be back...93/94mph

    vs the other day when it was 88/89 mph.

  • cloycub13

    Thats promising...let's hope the bats are back.

  • Jim

    Also how do you take Lee out of the 3 hole the way he has been hitting? Fukudome was doing alot better of a job than Sorryiano.

  • cloycub13

    Must be a Cubby Occurrence

  • Jim

    We really have to win these 4 games with most of the cardinals looking like 70's porn stars.

  • SuzyS

    We'll win today...I feel it...1 run down or not...we're going to win!!!

  • cloycub13

    WOW again...that did not take freaking long at all.

  • cloycub13

    Wow ouch this accuscore thing that supposedly and allegedly predict winners of games on gamecast has Stl a 61%-39% favorite. I have never seen a road team get that big of a spread on that hypothetical cheesy hype-o-meter...The Cubs are doomed LOL, always relished the underdog role!

  • cloycub13

    Per Muskat, Santo left the game with illness...Get well soon Ronny!

  • JimK

    On the fly, this will be quick. We can't sweep if we don't win this one. GO BLUE!!!

  • Charles n Texas

    Hi, Jim. You may have read that Tommy Hunter of the Rangers pitched another sterling game last night in Seattle. He should have been the winning pitcher, but his bullpen gave up a three run homer with two outs in the eighth to lose the game. Tommy pitched shut-out ball for six strong innings. What a nice surprise for the Texas club!!

  • SantoFever09

    Game to start at 1:55.

  • SantoFever09

    Neil,



    Now that Soto is on the DL, who do you think will be called up tomorrow? Robinson?



    Thanks!

  • Neil

    I would hope so. Robinson has played well enough, earned a trip to the Triple-A All Star game.



    First pitch slated for 1:55

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