Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Brewers - 07/03/09

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Game Seventy-Seven: Cubs (38-38) vs. Brewers (42-37)
Game Time - 1:20pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 183
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Carlos Zambrano (4-3, 3.69/1.33) vs. Jeff Suppan (5-6, 4.86/1.66)

Will Soriano or Fuld hit leadoff for the Chicago Cubs this afternoon? Lou Piniella said Alfonso Soriano would be back in the leadoff spot before Thursday night's game but sounded less sure following another solid performance from Sam Fuld. The Cubs must have a healthy Alfonso Soriano in order to win on a regular basis in the second half. With Soriano not producing it might be better for him to hit lower in the order for a while and ride out the spark that Fuld has given the team.

This afternoon might be a good time to slide Fuld over to center and put Kosuke Fukudome in right. Milton Bradley is not hitting from the left side and is just 1-for-10 lifetime against Jeff Suppan. Right now it is all about winning ballgames ... entering play today there are five teams in the central within three games of first place.

Phil Rogers sparked a lot of controversy following Carlos Zambrano's last start against the White Sox. When Big Z heard about the online poll, his response was "fine, trade me to Boston". For the Cubs to turn their season around the good Carlos Zambrano must continue to take the mound ... and not the bad Carlos that was on full display on the South Side last Sunday.

The Cubs offense must keep it up this afternoon against Jeff Suppan ... but it all starts with Carlos Zambrano and one win at a time.

Carlos Zambrano is coming off a horrible outing against the White Sox. Ozzie Guillen and company punched all of his buttons and knocked Zambrano out in the sixth inning. Zambrano allowed five runs, four earned, on nine hits in 5 1/3 innings with two walks and three strikeouts ... by far one of his worst games of the year.

Until his last start, Carlos Zambrano appeared to be on the verge of taking the next step in his development. He was pitching to contact, going deep in games and putting his team in position to win every time he took the mound. Zambrano has the talent and the desire; he must put his last start behind him and give his team another long, quality start today.

Big Z, like Rich Harden, has struggled in home (1-1 in five games with a 4.45 ERA and a 1.39 WHIP, opponents hitting .268) this season and in day games (1-2 in six starts with a 4.78 ERA and a 1.49 WHIP, opponents hitting .288). This afternoon will be a tough test for the Cubs number one pitcher.

Today will be Zambrano's second start of the year against the Brewers. He received a no decision in a 6-5 Cubs win back on April 11. Zambrano gave up three runs on seven hits in six innings with three walks and seven strikeouts.

Zambrano is 10-8 in 24 career games, 23 starts, against Milwaukee with a 3.68 ERA and a 1.27 WHIP.

  • Ryan Braun - 5-for-19 with a double, a home run and a walk
  • Mike Cameron - 1-for-13 with a walk
  • Craig Counsell - 6-for-26 with 2 doubles and 6 walks
  • Prince Fielder - 11-for-30 with 5 doubles, 2 home runs and 8 walks
  • Jody Gerut - 2-for-4 with a home run and 3 walks
  • Bill Hall - 8-for-41 with 2 doubles, 2 triples and 6 walks
  • J.J. Hardy - 2-for-19 with a home run and 2 walks
  • Corey Hart - 6-for-19 with a triple and 2 walks
  • Jason Kendall - 10-for-33 with 2 walks
  • Jeff Suppan - 0-for-5

The Cubs must use the same approach at the plate today as they did the first two times they faced Jeff Suppan this season ... make him throw strikes and do not swing at his pitch. After years of struggling against Jeff Suppan, the Cubs have beaten him twice this year. Suppan is 0-2 with a 7.45 ERA and a 1.86 WHIP in 9 2/3 innings ... eight walks and four strikeouts with 10 hits.

Jeff Suppan is 2-2 in his last six starts with a respectable 4.28 ERA but a very high WHIP of 1.78. Teams are getting their hits (.331 batting average against in his last six games) but have scored on 16 earned runs (19 runs on 47 hits). The Brewers won five of his seven starts between May 16 - June 17 but have lost the last two games Suppan took the ball.

Suppan is coming off a 7-0 loss to the Giants. He surrendered five runs on nine hits in 5 2/3 innings (Ryan Sadowski picked up the win in his first big league start). Suppan has pitched rather well on the road this year, 4-1 in nine starts with a 3.96 ERA and a 1.60 WHIP. If the Cubs can make him work and get into their pen early again, it could pay dividends in the last two games of the series.

Suppan is 6-8 in 21 career starts against the Cubs with a 3.90 ERA and a 1.51 WHIP.

  • Andres Blanco - 1-for-3 with a double
  • Milton Bradley - 1-for-10
  • Mike Fontenot - 3-for-8 with a walk
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 3-for-8 with a double, a triple and 4 walks
  • Koyie Hill - 0-for-3 with 2 walks
  • Micah Hoffpauir - 2-for-6
  • Derrek Lee - 21-for-47 with 7 doubles, 4 home runs and 9 walks
  • Alfonso Soriano - 9-for-43 with 2 doubles, 2 home runs and 3 walks
  • Geovany Soto - 2-for-8 with 2 home runs and 2 doubles
  • Ryan Theriot - 8-for-19 with a double
  • Carlos Zambrano - 3-for-7 with a triple

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Jim

    Walking Bradley, than Soto to get to Fox has to be one of the worst managerial calls I have ever seen. I don't care what the laws of baseball tell you. With two outs a man on third and Milton Bradley comes to the plate you pitch to him. He's hitting like .120 with RISP. Let alone he was hitting left handed and couldn't touch a fastball over 80. WOW!



    Thank you Brew Crew.

  • SuzyS

    Jim...we'll never know...the one thing Uncle Milty IS decent at is drawing walks...so it might have happened that way anyhow...but again...we'll never know.

  • Boseph Heyden

    I think that call will ultimately be something that starts pushing the Brewers away from Macha, because when you make a call like that, it's a statement that you don't trust your defense and pitching.



    In fact, I know this may be a bit of a jinx, but I don't think the Brewers win the next three or four games...

  • Neil

    Dave Kaplan just reported that Soriano will be dropped to the sixth spot in the lineup Saturday.

  • Aaron

    Neil, can I listen to Kaplan online? If so, can you provide a link?

  • Neil
  • Aaron

    thank you Neil. Is he on a lot, or just occasionally?

  • Neil

    Aaron, his show 'Sports Central' is on from 7-9 every night, except for when the Cubs play. He usually does the post-game on WGN following afternoon games.

  • SuzyS

    I heard him report that also...lets see if it's true.

  • Aaron

    good news....VERY good news. Hopefully that means Fuld in for Bradley or Fukudome (praying it's Bradley)

  • Jim

    I really hope that is right. I think Soriano after a DL stint could benefit hitting behind Leee and Aram.

  • Aaron

    Neil, for real though....there are some sites that claim to have the "ear" of the Cubs brass. Your site is the best, and judging by comments I've seen on other sites, I think it's an absolute joke, and slap in the face that Cubs management hasn't done ANYTHING right this year in improving the lineup....Fuld, Fox, Hoffpauir....all 3 of them have been relegated to bench duty for the most part, especially Hoffpauir. Hoffpauir and Fox were hot early on, yet weren't played. Then Fuld gets hot, and they put him on the bench.



    It's NOT Lou's call...believe me. So, back to my point....if Cubs management really cared about winning, and cared about the fans, they'd take action. Soriano and Bradley would be benched in favor of Fuld and Hoffpauir respectively until Fuld and Hoffpauir, playing on an everyday basis, play their way out of the lineup...that's the only reason Soriano and Bradley should be playing right now---is if others fail, because they've repeatedly shown that they're failures. Expecting them to "show up" all of a sudden in the 4th month of the season is almost mind blowing. Soriano hasn't had a home run in over a month...ditto Bradley. Neither have managed RBI's in the same span either, at least from what I can remember. Meanwhile, Hoffpauir has won a game with a hit, Fox has slammed 3 hr in a week, and almost has equaled Bradley's RBI output, and Fuld has shown glimpses of being the true lead-off hitter we've been missing for the last 3 years... ...actually 6 years if you count all the way back to Lofton in 2003.



    I don't care about egos...you bench those underperforming wastes of space, and you play the hot hand...when those guys go cold, then you play the veterans again...it's simple unwritten baseball rules. If you want to have success, you have to do that, and good managers do that. Leyland, Scioscia (especially), Francona, etc. They don't care about egos, they'll bench your ass until you prove you can play...and they're well respected for it. Piniella's idle threats clearly go in one ear and out the other, as he's proven he won't follow through with the threats. Hendry, meanwhile, hasn't made a single damn move to improve the team.



    While JimK and I liked Baker before....I think we'd both agree that he wasn't the true answer for us, and merely a back-up...and this year, his avg, hovering around .130 isn't going to cut it (I know he hasn't played much, but still, when Hendry's only moves have been swapping Gathright essentially for Baker....in ARAM's absence, he's a moron)

  • Neil

    Aaron, thank you for the compliment and I will work on what Suzy suggested. I spoke with John McDonough several times, and even interviewed him for the site, but as far as Jim Hendry I have not.



    The new ownership might open up a few avenues as well ... you never know.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Boseph Heyden

    There's no "respecting Milton Bradley" on that walk...when you have a guy at third with one out, you have to play for a force out. All it takes is one bobble or a trip or a misstep and that's the game if you pitch to him. Playing for the double play is a "last hope" sort of thing, because you can't just assume Bradley will get out.

  • Aaron

    also....need to give props where it's due...though Gregg still sucks, and nearly gave up the game in the 9th...he at least pitched a good 10th, and though Heilman is equally as bad....Heilman got his ERA under 4, so props to him on that. Now, our back end of the pen doesn't look so awful with 4+ ERA's all over the place.



    Also, please consider where our offense came from tonight:



    Theriot, Fox, K Hill, and Zambrano...and Fuld almost won the game with a line drive. Bradley and Soriano did nothing to help us win the game, in fact...they almost caused us to lose the game with their crappy AB's, and crappy defense. Ken Macha won the game for us today by walking Milton for us...THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT!!!!!!!

  • SuzyS

    3 in a row for a hoped for 11.

    Just 8 more to go.



    Kudo's to:

    Z when he didn't have it.

    and an rbi.



    -Gregg for 2 innings no runs...amazing!!



    The Defense...except for Milty.



    Milty for not throwing the ball in the stands...and keeping track of the outs.



    Fontenot for getting it going in the tenth...and Fox four fouling 4 off before the walk.



    Thumbs down to JH and Lou for the lineup.



    3 towards the 11...Lets go Cubs!

  • Aaron

    no kidding cloycub13, the Cubs got a gift...Ken Macha should be fired for walking Milton Bradley....I'm laughing my ass off there. Their players had to be beside themselves that they were doing that. Bradley is HORRIBLE left-handed. What were they thinking?!?

  • cloycub13

    That was easily the play of the game... I was laughing at the dots on gamecast..

  • JimK

    Here in Indy, we're proud of Jake. He didn't exactly rake, but we'll take it!!

  • Neil

    Solid Win ... more than a borderline call.

  • cloycub13

    Lou see what happens when you play Soriano, you score 2 and get lucky to get a win. Seems to me the way that the whole season has been. Get a grip, get a clue and sit Soriano and Bradley!!!! Trade one, sit the other and play the guys that play it right, play it hard, and actually want to win.

  • Aaron

    walk will do....we might've gotten a gift, but the Brewers got several borderline strike gifts earlier both pitching AND batting that nearly cost us the game earlier....





    good, hard fought win......Soriano and Bradley not withstanding

  • SuzyS

    Fact is with a different lineup...we probably would have won in nine.



    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    TWO IN A ROW!



    SWEET DAMN THAT WAS CLOSE!



    How did Fox take that? He never walks?



    I hate it for the ump. You never, as an ump, want it to come to something that close. You could see it on his face.

  • Matt Haggard

    In hindsight, that was indeed a ball.



    Go call and good eyes Fox!



    THE WHOLE EFFIN SHOW, Jake Fox!

  • cloycub13

    Nation Represent walk off walk

    They singing go cubs go go cubs go hey chicago whatdya say the Cubs got a gift today!!!!

  • waldo7239117

    Nice at bat by Fox, lets not take another one tomorrow. Cub Win Cubs Win.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Hah!

  • SuzyS

    FOX WINS IT FOX WINS IT FOX WINS IT !!!!



    CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!!!

  • Aaron

    c'mon...grand slam Foxy

  • SuzyS

    Bradley walks intentionally haha...

    have they looked at his RISP ?

  • Aaron

    Bradley should NEVER under any circumstances this year be batting higher than 6th, and Soriano shouldn't be batting higher than 7th.....they're killing the lineup. The bad part is, if you bat them there, you have them back to back....



    boy the Brewers just did us a favor, intentionally walking the abomination that is Bradley

  • Matt Haggard

    Escobar's a punk by the way.



    Aaron, as much as you hate Bradley, understand that Yunel is Milton-lite.



    I love this move. Milton being walked for Geo.



    Fine by me...

  • cloycub13

    Sorry Freaking Ano---0-5 if they are showcasing him for a potential deal... that was one hell of a showcase!

  • Rocky

    o for 5.

  • Aaron

    there are also new rumors about Javier Vazquez and Escobar being on the block.



    Boy, if we could package a Theriot, Fontenot, and Marshall for Escobar, we'd have a legitimate run producer at SS, which makes our lineup stronger...Or, in my previous mentioned trade of the 3-headed monster to Toronto, where we keep Wells and Ryan, and send Rios to the Braves for Escobar...would make a ton of sense.

  • SuzyS

    Aaron...I don't see us winning anything

    with Soriano and Bradley....THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM...no matter who else comes or goes.

  • cloycub13

    Yep... the only move of consequence this season to make a serious WS push is to extrecate Soriano or Bradley.

  • Matt Haggard

    Could we get Escobar and manage to keep Theriot somehow?



    Darwin Barney? Yes, everyone knows I'm a Theriot homer but he's one of only two full-time Cubs hitting over .280.



    I'd kill for both in the lineup..

  • Matt Haggard

    Gregg's seemed to pitch better in his second inning or on consecutive days...



    Weird.

  • Aaron

    Cubs just signed lefty Casey Fossum to AAA....I know Cotts went down, so it's probably just insurance, but could this possibly mean that the Cubs are ready to deal Marshall in a bigger package. You have to wonder, don't you?

  • SuzyS

    Who is Casey Fossum?

  • Aaron

    once a highly touted prospect of the Red Sox I believe, he's bounced around from the Rays, D'Backs, Tigers, Mets, and Yankees. He was never able to fulfill his promise

  • SuzyS

    Thanks Aaron.

  • cloycub13

    Oh man bringing Gregg in for multiple innings never seems to be a good idea... Oh well free baseball at Wrigley

  • cloycub13

    Help I am suffering from a black crow overdose hack hack hack

  • SuzyS

    uhoh...Gregg for 2 inninga?

  • Matt Haggard

    Damn..



    Can't fault Mikey.



    Fuld almost did it again. Man. He looks like a totally different guy.



    I met him in AA last year and he just seemed so lifeless -- going through the motions.



    Something had to happen last year.

  • SuzyS

    Another extra inning hair puller.

  • Aaron

    damn....Fuld still hit it hard....no fault by Fontenot there...you have to go on that with first instinct to try to win it....especially with the horribleness on-deck in Soriano

  • SuzyS

    Pretty funny...Fuld still comes up with an opportunity to win it.

  • cloycub13

    uhhhhh Fontenot Vs a lefty... come on LOU

  • cloycub13

    mmmmmm holiday weekend crow

  • Matt Haggard

    Spicy!

  • Matt Haggard

    Just in front...



    Fox does that soooo often. If Jake would learn to wait just a millisecond...



    He crushes EVERYTHING.

  • Rocky

    Hey if we really wanted to lose the game we would have put in Marmol and that way he could have walked the first batter and the double would have scored him.

  • SuzyS

    Well, as Jack Brickhouse used to say...

    "any old run will win it."

  • Aaron

    wow...he actually got out of something

  • cloycub13

    I hate Kevin Gregg, let's hit a fairly inconsequential batter to bring up one of the most feared 1-2 punches in the NL!

  • cloycub13

    He always has to make it interesting doesn't he... HUGE!!!

  • Aaron

    and here's why Gregg sucks....he's got nothing to cover for Bradley's mistake

  • Neil

    Aaron, you are exactly right but at least he was able to today.

  • Aaron

    I honestly hate Bradley on this team...not the person, just the fact that he's on the team....he sucks at the plate, in pressure situations, and in the field

  • Matt Haggard

    One phrase comes to mind:



    Cancerous polyp.

  • Matt Haggard

    It's almost like he's spread to the others..

  • SuzyS

    For me, it's a toss up between Bradley and Soriano...never had a Cubs team where I hated 2 players so much...

    And like you...not the person...the player.

  • SuzyS

    Way to use the noggin, Milton.

  • Boseph Heyden

    The bass on my stereo just went out, so I can only assume Milton Bradley did something stupid that's going to cost us the game.

  • SuzyS

    He lost the ball in the sun...it hit him on the head...Kendall on second.

  • Aaron

    wow...Bradley continues to impress with his ineptitude

  • Matt Haggard

    Ugh....



    Milton's not helping himself...



    I know it's a sunny day but gosh, man...

  • Aaron

    Gregg continues to get hard....but outs. Remember what I said before, right? His recent success has been a product of dumb luck and nothing more

  • cloycub13

    Throwing strikes is not dumb luck. Continuing to walk tying and winning runs in front of giving up a hard hit is not luck.

  • Matt Haggard

    At least he's tossing strikes...I guess..

  • Matt Haggard

    That ball was hit too hard for my tastes...

  • Matt Haggard

    That one too...

  • SuzyS

    This game is just a microcosm of the season so far...14 innings anyone?

  • cloycub13

    No such luck... Fuld does go to CF. Just gotta hope for a walk off.

  • Aaron

    Finally, Lou gets the memo....Fukudome should NEVER hit with a lefty pitching...let's hope Baker makes it a memorable debut, then goes into LF for Soriano with Fuld going to CF for Fukudome

  • Matt Haggard

    Look at you, all prophecising and stuff.



    Fuld in.

  • Matt Haggard

    I like Baker. I hope he's come to play ball.



    He's got the skills to come in and be productive.



    This would be a great spot to introduce yourself.

  • cc002600

    Isn't it amazing how when pycho and Sori are in the lineup, we go back to the same inept offfense we've seen all year ?



    but when Fuld was in the last 2 games, it felt like last year ??



    Lou has really gone soft.

  • Matt Haggard

    Way to battle Milton!



    Look, I know everyone would love to see him hit the ball but this beats a K.



    A walk is no better than a single, remember.



    It's a start.

  • cloycub13

    I agree Matt, On base is on base!

  • Aaron

    LOL...that was a slap in the face to Bradley:



    "with a runner in scoring position, you would think they'd probably put Lee on, and take their chances with Bradley grounding into another double play...but with 2 strikes, I guess it doesn't make much sense."-Brenly

  • Aaron

    thank you Len for saying what we all felt: "it's hard to get anything going without the top of the lineup setting the tone"

  • cloycub13

    Come on Derek, Wait for your high cheese and launch it

  • Matt Haggard

    Just got back in.



    Great job by Heilman!



    1-1 tie. Inept offense. You holding up, Aaron?

  • Aaron

    no, because I want Bradley off this team NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cloycub13

    What an inning by Heilman!!!

  • cloycub13

    Like this whole season and the standings I do not know how we are in this game, but we are...probably despite ourselves...But alos like the season and this game, there is still reason to believe!!! WE ARE NOT DONE YET!!!

  • Neil

    KOSUKE!!! WITH A STRIKE!

  • SuzyS

    Neil...any way to print out our comments and get them to Lou?...It would be better if we started with yesterday's so he could not accuse us of being Monday morning quarterbacks...so he knows all the world was against this line-up

    before he did again...Copies to Crane Kenny and JH so they know how pissed off Cubs fans are.

  • Matt Haggard

    I like it.

  • Aaron

    had Lou not sent Lee earlier in the game, that would've been 2 GIDP's for the disgrace that is Bradley...unbelieveable

  • GaryLeeT

    I feel like if they don't get it done here, they'll lose.

  • SuzyS

    Bradley...just X?>@*%x#%& !!!

  • Neil

    Maybe today will send a message to the powers to be that Soriano and Milton cannot be in the same starting lineup right now...

  • Aaron

    Neil, we've been hoping all year....not a chance. They've had a full body of work to go off of now. They have to be the worst braintrust ever not to see that

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