A Brutal Loss for the Chicago Cubs - Cubs 5 Braves 6

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Game Fifty - Cubs 5 Braves 6 - 12 innings
WP - Rafael Soriano (1-0) LP - Aaron Heilman (2-3) Save - None

While Aaron Heilman was credited with the loss on Tuesday night, he was not the sole reason the Chicago Cubs are 25-25 after 50 games of the season. Baseball is a team game, but this loss must be hung on the Cubs pathetic bullpen.

Randy Wells pitched an incredible game and even drove in the Cubs' second run with his first career big league hit in the second inning. Wells dominated the Braves and took a no-hitter into the seventh inning. Wells retired the first two batters of the seventh before giving up a clean opposite field hit to Chipper Jones. Wells got out of the inning and took the hill in the eighth up by a score of 5-0.

Randy Wells surrendered his second hit of the game to Garrett Anderson on a 1-1 pitch to start the eighth. Anderson hit a line drive homer, his second of the season, over the wall in right for the Braves first run. Martin Prado then reached on an error by Derrek Lee. Prado hit a routine groundball to Ryan Theriot who fielded the ball cleanly and made a low but accurate throw...Lee just dropped the ball.

Lou Piniella decided that was enough for Randy Wells. Wells departed after throwing only 83 pitches and allowing one run on two hits with four strikeouts in seven-plus innings..

Carlos Marmol was summoned and could not find the strike zone. The free-swinging Jeff Francoeur walked on four pitches. Kosuke Fukudome made a great diving catch in right to take a hit away from Gregor Blanco for the first out of the inning. Marmol then hit pinch-hitter Greg Norton to load the bases.

Marmol walked Kelly Johnson to force in the Braves second run then surrendered a sacrifice fly to Yunel Escobar that cut the Cubs comfortable 5-0 lead to a 5-3 advantage.

Kevin Gregg took the mound in the ninth and retired Brian McCann on a fly out to left on a 3-2 pitch. Garrett Anderson then swung and missed at strike three, but the ball in the dirt got away from Geovany Soto and rolled all the way to the backstop. Anderson reached first easily and brought the tying run to the plate.

On a 0-1 pitch, Martin Prado flied out to center for the second out of the inning.

Jeff Francoeur then launched a 2-1 pitch from Kevin Gregg over the wall in left center and tied the game at five. Gregg's pitch was right down main street with no movement whatsoever.

The Cubs offense could not gear it back up after the let down and Randy Wells was handed a no decision after a dominating performance.

In a game that began with Alfonso Soriano's first home run since May 17 that put him into sole possession of second place on the All-Time leadoff home run list with 54...27 behind the leader Ricky Henderson, the feeling at the end when Chipper Jones hit the game winner off Aaron Heilman was of total frustration and utter defeat.

During a baseball season there are positives that can be found even in losses, but not on Tuesday night in Atlanta. The Cubs' bullpen turned the entire night into the team's worst loss of the year...and it is up to Lou Piniella to not allow the loss to carry over throughout the road trip.

The daily drama of May stayed with the Cubs in the first game of June.

Milton Bradley left the game in the fourth with a right calf strain and is listed as day-to-day. Carlos Zambrano missed the flight with the team to Atlanta and arrived late to the park on Tuesday. Zambrano reportedly blew off the flight without permission and spent time with Lou Piniella before the game. Even with all of that going on behind the scene, a pitcher the Cubs were not depending on when the season began flirted with a no-hitter.

The performance that Randy Wells turned in on Tuesday night will be lost in the incompetence and makeup of the Cubs' pen. Wells pitched a great game against a team in their park. Randy Wells should be 5-0 as a starter, not 0-2. Hopefully his teammates have not killed the extraordinaire amount of confidence this young man has.

The Cubs offense did a decent job on Tuesday night against a very good pitching staff. Kenshin Kawakami had been very effective at Turner Field and the Cubs put up four runs, three earned, in seven innings.

After Alfonso Soriano gave the Cubs a 1-0 lead in the first, Kawakami retired the next three batters he faced in order. Mike Fontenot reached on a single up the middle with one out in the second. Geovany Soto walked and advanced to third on a throwing error by Chipper Jones.

Jones fielded the grounder off the bat of Andres Blanco, ended up forcing Fontenot at third but threw wide of first base. Soto advanced to third and Blanco ended up at second. Randy Wells then singled into right. His first big league hit and RBI gave the Cubs a 2-0 lead.

Kenshin Kawakami retired 11 in a row after the Wells' single. Kosuke Fukudome singled off his former teammate with one-out in the sixth. Derrek Lee followed with a double down the third base line. Fukudome scored all the way from first with a great slide. Reed Johnson blooped a single into left center that advanced Lee to third.

With runners on second and third with one-out, Mike Fontenot hit a sacrifice fly to center that plated Lee with the Cubs' fourth run.

Derrek Lee hit his sixth longball of the season in the eighth off of Manny Acosta that gave the Cubs a 5-0 lead.

The final run of the game was scored off of Aaron Heilman after Yunel Escobar singled to left with one out and stole second. Chipper Jones singled to left on a 3-2 pitch with first base open and Escobar unnecessarily slid home with the game winner.

A tip of the cap to Pat Hughes for the headline.

Wednesday is a new day...and the Cubs' season must start with game number 51, because the first fifty have been disappointing at best.

Box Score from Yahoo Sports

Ted Lilly is scheduled to face Derek Lowe on Wednesday night.

  • cc002600

    I am not sure about anyone else, but Zambrano's act is really wearing thin.

    I am really tired of his antics.

    and just an FYI - NOBODY is going to take that contract. You guys keep coming up with these trade proposals like its monopoly money. Guys, trust me, outside of the yankees and maybe Boston, nobody is going to take a guy like Zambrano that's making $18M / yr for the next few years. Ain't gonna happen.

  • SuzyS

    cc002600...Peavy is older and with his 22mil buyout would cost more than Z that is in his prime.

  • cc002600

    Suz, they are basically the same age. and yes Peavy has a 22M option in the last year. But no one wants to pick that up, and leading up to that Peavy is not making 18M / Yr. This year he is making 11M, then 15M next yr. Big difference.

  • cc002600

    I am not sure about anyone else, but Zambrano's act is really wearing thin.

    I am really tired of his antics.

    and just an FYI - NOBODY is going to take that contract. You guys keep coming up with these trade proposals like its monopoly money. Guys, trust me, outside of the yankees and maybe Boston, nobody is going to take a guy like Zambrano that's making $18M / yr for the next few years. Ain't gonna happen.

  • Bryan

    So the Giants are dangling Jonathan Sanchez out to the market. How about Lee and Heilman (or Gregg, or both) for this youngster with strong promise. Then you can ship Zambrano away for a couple very strong prospects. We'd have to eat some contract $$$$, but at this point you have to peddle Lee, and he'd likely waive his no-trade to the west coast.

  • Aaron

    once again, excellent points....I love that trade too. You can't go wrong with trading Lee, much less Lee AND Heilman, who are both pretty worthless on this team.

    The Giants have made moves to get younger, but they need some decent veterans to help the young players along. Heilman and Lee fit that mold, and it makes sense on so many levels for both teams. It allows Marshall to go to the pen, essentially replacing Heilman, and Sanchez in our rotation looks phenomenal. It's almost like Sanchez hasn't put it all together just yet, and so you'd be buying low there. He K's about 1 batter per inning.

    Heilman would fit nicely in their rotation, and with Madison Bumgarner coming up through their system, they won't be missing much with Sanchez gone, and Johnson likely gone next year as well.

    Hell, I'd sweeten the deal, and make it Lee, Heilman, and maybe even Marshall if that's what it took to get it done.

    Bravo man! You successfully came up with a win-win for both teams, and I love that type of thinking. Ishikawa just isn't cutting it for them right now, so Lee makes sense, especially if we eat about half his remaining salary, which I would do in a HEARTBEAT.....HEARTBEAT!!!!!

    Other trades that I like are Soto, Lilly, and Theriot. All three you could make a case for on "selling high" (though Soto's star has fallen considerably). But let's face it, Soto is the next Jerome Walton. Lilly is gone after next year, so why not get something for him? And finally, Theriot is NOT going to be a shortstop much longer with his lack of range, so now is the time to sell high on him, because once he moves to 2B, he loses most of his value.

    I mentioned in the community post what I thought we could get for each of them in terms of level of prospects.

    I've made my case for young talent like Mitchell Moreland (Rangers-AA), who has progressed nicely through their system, but is blocked at every level at 1B (though he also plays a bit of RF and LF). He's hit everywhere he's been over .300 and at or above .400 OBP.

    I've also made my case for Michael Tayler (Phillies-AA), who like Moreland is blocked, and has progressed nicely, hitting over .300 at every stop.

    We don't have any young talent like that in our system, except for Josh Vitters, and the recently called-up Jake Fox. We need more guys like that.

    Maybe Scott Sizemore 2B in the Tigers system (AA) would be a target? Or Desmond Jennings CF in the Rays system (AA), who has 17 SB's already, and is a lead-off hitter.

    We need to be forward thinking. If Hendry makes any trades, they MUST be for guys like I just mentioned. They CANNOT be for single-A players, because we have entirely too many of those type of prospects right now that are 4, maybe 5 years away from helping. Ridding ourselves of Lee, Bradley, Soto, and maybe even Soriano, can help us rebuild.

    Here's what I think the new owner will say:

    "wow, Jim, you have an aging roster that needs to be overturned. We simply cannot be competitive in years to come, and yet you've handcuffed us from taking on much more salary by Lee, Soriano, and Bradley for at the very least this year and next. The Lee deal, I can understand somewhat, because while he was coming off a career year, if you would've let him go via FA, there would've been mass chaos in Wrigleyville. But Soriano and Bradley? Here's what I'll authorize you to do...actually, I'm mandating it. You will send all 3 packing. You will pick up 1/4 of Lee's remaining salary, 1/2 of Soriano's, and 1/2 of Bradley's, and if we pick up that much, you MUST get MLB ready talent at the AA level...oh, and after you do that for me..you can pack your bags as well, because you're fired!"

    I hope that happens. But look, in all seriousness. Teams with money would love to have Soriano's bat if they only had to pay $9 million/yr instead of around $18 million/yr. They'd also more than likely take a flier on Lee for $7-9 million, and Bradley for $5 million as well. Sure, we'd be eating roughly $55 million, but it sure as hell beats eating over $100 million. That's how I look at it.

    The Tigers thought eating Sheffield's $12 million (maybe it was $14) was sure as hell better than dealing with his attitude, and limited production at age 40. Look where the Tigers are now? At the top. Exactly!

    Winning teams make winning decisions. Now is time to cut the cord on Lee, Bradley, and Soriano, and still get what we can for them. I guarantee you that we could get a Daniel Bard for Soriano if we ate half his contract. That would make it so worth it, because while Bard makes the minimum, he can produce like a staff ace, which would essentially mean he gets $9 million/yr for 5 years (equally out Soriano's contract), and that STILL represents a steal for us.

    Similarly, I guarantee you there's a market for Lee out there, provided we eat some of his salary.

    The opportunity is there. Hendry just has to finally admit a mistake, and deal with it.

    I would love a lineup like this:

    Jennings-CF

    Theriot-SS (if we can't trade him)

    Fukudome-RF

    ARAM-3B

    Hoffpauir/Moreland-1B

    Taylor/Fox-LF

    Scott Sizemore-2B

    Robinson/Clevenger/Hill-C

  • Boseph Heyden

    Typically, I'd say "keep dreaming", but the Giants did sign Howry, so they're not the best judges of character...

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    I would love that trade scenerio.

  • cc002600

    I read somewhere last winter that the cubs approached Lee about waiving his no-trade and he said no.

    He loves the Cubs and Wrigley. How could you not ?

    At this point, I'd wish they could trade him for a bag of balls, in order to get Hoffy playing everyday, and to dump the 13 Mildo off next years payroll. But I won't hold my breath. ain't happening.



  • Neil

    You read that here. The Cubs approached Derrek Lee in the off-season about waiving his no-trade clause. From the way I understand it, they thought he might want to be traded closer to home (West Coast). He said no that he wants to be a Cub.

  • EDDY

    JUST THINKING HOW ABOUT RANDY WELLS IN THE JAKE PEAVY TRADE.

    1. RANDY IS PITCHING GREAT

    2. PEAVY IS STILL IN SAN DIEGO

    3. PEAVY WANTS TO BE A CUB

  • Bryan

    We don't need a high priced Peavy ($'s and prospects it would take). If we add pitching it should be the likes of a Cain or Sanchez that are low priced, younger, and that we can potentially unload guys like Lee. And Wells, though with a small sample size, is pitching as well if not better than Peavy. Why move him????

  • SuzyS

    Eddy...we don't need Jake Peavy and his stupid contract.

    We need clutch hitting and a bullpen...Our starters are fine...and we certainly do NOT need anymore oversized

    contracts.

    btw...Peavy gives up a lot of fly balls...and is not the type of ace we need anyhow.

  • The Goat

    I'm afraid this is going to continue....This shitty Cub's team isn't hitting shit tonight vs. Lowe. We'll hit 20 groundball outs tonight and get right back into the hitting slump. I bet Lilly will pitch a decent game and we'll let him down. This game is played with momentum, and we are far from that. Now the f-ing bullpen sucks ass! Stay tuned for part II of a disapointing season....

  • Greg

    How would you guys like this decision for next year,considering this year is over anyways, but what if they traded zambrano for a couple good relief pitchers, and made wells the staff ace for next year. I think he has the stuff to become the new cub ace that we all need. Thoughts?

  • SuzyS

    Wells is not an ace...by his own admission.

    That being said...trading Zambrano is not a bad idea...IF WE GET young Talent

    back.

  • Baron

    Trading Z-- 'not a bad idea'... He is by far and away the best player on the Cubs.. No one except Ted Lilly can even touch his jockstrap...

    you GOTTA be kidding.... Unless the young kid we get is that 103 mph Strasbourg guy, this would be a truly inane idea.

  • SuzyS

    Baron, If the Cubs are going to play like this with "Z" on the team...then we need to rebuild...and no player...no one player is untouchable.

    With the contracts we have in place for the next few years...overpaid/no trade contracts that will hinder the rebuilding

    process...well...let's just say we will be worse.

    Do you like this team?

    Yes, I would trade Z in a heartbeat...

    for the right talent coming back...he has

    all the talent in the world...but has not

    produced to that talent...so sell high.

  • roguesqr09

    I agree with Suzy. I admit I was never a Z fan to begin with, but I still don't see why he's our ace. Is it be default? Demp was the ace last year and Lilly is this year....that is if you don't count Wells. Z is good, but I don't think he's ever pitched to his capabilities.

  • nick

    Man I really don't even know what to say about last nights game. Absolutely great game by Wells, absolutely Horrible fielding and Bullpen. I feel so bad for Wells.

  • Boseph Heyden

    The thing that should scare everyone by the end of June is that if we are more than 3 games under .500 by that point, we will go into seller mode. And that is even scarier since, after this season, Jim Hendry could very well know this could be his last (it should be). And if he goes into seller mode with no job security...I fear for this team's future. On top of the fact that he just, flat out, cannot sell, he may very well gut our team of its good players. And I'm talking about a team that suddenly loses one or both of its lefty starters (Marshall and Lilly), as well as the only two attractive players on the team for trade (in Theriot and Fukudome). Mark my words: if we trade any of those four players, we may have to wait another four years.

  • cc002600

    Boseph,

    Hendry is signed through 2012. He ain't going nowhere. Plus, of the core guys, who could he really trade if he wanted to ? Do you think anyone's going to pickup the remainder of the contracts for Sori, Lee, Z, Fuku, Bradley, etc ??

    Fat chance.

    Not too mention, many of them have no-trade clauses.

    actually, BECAUSE of that fact, you should be scared. We are going to have a lot of dead weight on the payroll in 2010, 2011, and 2012. Not good. If Hendry could somehow dump some of it, we would be much better off, but VERY unlikely.

  • Boseph Heyden

    People would want Fukudome. I don't know if you read what I wrote, but I'm not worried about moving Lee or Soriano or Bradley. I'm worried he's going to get an offer for Theriot that includes some veteran lefty bat and some low level prospects and take it, or that he gets an offer from the Yankees for Fukudome which gives him their top prospect and another lower leveled prospect (their prospects...not so good). Hendry is a horrible seller. All you'd need to dangle in front of him is the word "prospect" and he'll give you whoever you want, and realistically, that's going to be Theriot, Fukudome, Lilly, Wells, Marmol (yeah, he's been bad for a few games, but he is one of the best relievers in the majors and with a better pitching coach, he's unstoppable), or Marshall...not Gregg, Bradley, Miles, Lee, Soriano, Dempster, or any of these bad contracts.

    And contracts mean nothing: if the owner isn't happy with his performance, he'll can him.

  • SuzyS

    Boseph, Best case scenario is Hendry is hamstrung until new ownership comes in.

    Then he gets an Ed Lynch deal and a new

    GM comes in.

    Your concern is valid. A shrewd GM would only package a desired player with a bad contract.

    We'll see.

  • cc002600

    I'm not sure how you can say contracts don't mean anything. Let me ask you this. Derrick Lee has been slowly decling each year for the last 3 years. I would bet my right arm that if Hoffpair played everyday, he would dwarf Lee's numbers. Do you agree ? and I know Lee is GG, but Hoffy's glove at 1B is not terrible.

    So why in the world does Lee still play everyday over Hoffy ? Please explain. So if you think contracts don't mean anything, please call me, I have a bridge for you.

    As bad as Soriano can be at times, do you ever think they will bench him ? Very doubtful. Why doesn't Lou remove him for defense in the 9th of a close game ??

    They will never admit to it, but the contracts play a huge role. Don't kid yourself.

    Think about this for a second. Let's for second say you could dump Sori, Lee, and Bradley. Wouldn't this lineup look better than what Lou is running out there now ?

    (I would like to move The Riot to 2B, play Blanco at SS....he has great glove)

    2B Riot

    RF Fuku

    1B ARAM (when he gets back)

    LF Fox

    1B Hoffy

    CF Reed

    C Hill/Soto

    SS Blanco

    Much, much better defense, and a better lineup for a fraction of the money...

    Do you agree ?

    It will never happen, but I can dream :-)

  • Boseph Heyden

    I still don't think you get it: when I say "contracts mean nothing", I'm not talking about any sort of players or playing time or anything like that. I'm talking about Hendry's current deal. If the new ownership (granted it happens) doesn't like Hendry, then regardless of how long he's signed for, he will not last as GM: they will fire him and get a new GM.

  • Clara

    It looked like the Cubs had it the whole game, and then the braves came back big time. Hopefully tonight's game will be a different story. I heard about this event called the Sports Legends Challenge where Reggie Jackson, Ozzie Smith, and Brooks Robinson will be playing. Does anyone know details about this event??

  • Neil

    Clara, are you talking about the 'new version' of the Hall of Fame game?

  • Keith Moreland

    It's probably time for a bullpen shakeup, last night not withstanding, we have had a simmering problem there for awhile. Lost in all of this, our starting pitching has been EXCELLENT. Our problems are offense and bullpen, NOT the starters. That being said, let's fix the bullpen.

    I would re-shuffle to the following order, ranked from top to bottom:

    Guzman--CL

    Marmol--8th

    Ascanio--7th/8th

    Marshall--7th/8th/loogy

    Heilman--6th/7th

    Gregg--Mopup

    With Marshall in the pen we can ship Waddell back to Iowa. We need to give up on Patton. Can we find another reliable arm from the following?:

    Kevin Hart: Pitching well of late, should be called up soon

    Samardzija: Ditto

    Jeff Stevens, Greg Reinhard: Apparently not yet ready

  • Aaron

    I have a trade proposal. If you want to review my post in the Community section where I explain some moves more in depth, you'll understand why I'm posting this.

    Apparently the Phillies need pitching, and one of their top OF prospects is Michael Taylor: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=taylor010mic

    Last year he had 19 hr, 88 RBI across 2 levels with a .346 avg, .412 OBP

    This year in AA, he already has 10 hr, 39 RBI, .339 avg, .398 OBP.

    If this year continues to go down the tubes, and if we're 10 games out shortly, I'm trading Ted Lilly to the Phillies for Michael Taylor and a mid-tier prospect

  • SuzyS

    Aaron, see my comments in Commentary.

    btw...Bradley for Dunn? lol

    (Washington did want him in the offseason)

  • SuzyS

    sigh again

  • Vern in Jax FL

    Marmol and Gregg are total disasters. Gregg got dumped by the Marlins, and the Cubs get this clown? I have no idea what's happened to Marmol, but it's time to send him to AAA.

  • Aaron

    ...and Gregg, sounding every bit like the knucklehead that he is:

    *by the way the last two posts are compliments of the Sun-Times...

    -regg took responsibility for the loss but dismissed the idea the bullpen is still a work in progress.

    ''Not at all,'' Gregg said of a group whose ERA jumped to 4.82 -- with only Colorado and Washington worse in the National League. ''This is a glitch on the system. We're not going to be perfect all year. [Tuesday was] unacceptable. But we're going to roll with it. It's one of those things that happens every now and again. But on the whole you look at the way that group has pitched down there, it's been pretty darn good. I like the guys we have down there. I'll take our chances with them.''

    At least he had the guts to say, "it's unacceptable". Lee didn't even say that...Lee's pathetic excuse for Wells was, ''He's pitched so good it's just crazy we can't get a win for him,'' Lee said.

    Both those losers (Lee and Gregg) directly contributed to Wells not getting a win in all of his starts (Gregg I think might've missed one or two of those, but Lee certainly hasn't helped).

    Gregg doesn't get it either, saying he likes his chances with the guys we have down there. Obviously, he wasn't talking about himself, because I HATE our chances when that douche comes in the games. Additionally, I'm only okay with Ascanio, Waddell, Marmol, and Guzman. Both he and Heilman can't close out a game if their life depended on it.

    Heilman, like Dempster before him, belongs in the rotation where he's best suited. Gregg, on the other hand, belongs in the Atlantic league, playing for the Newark Bears.

  • cc002600

    Doesn't it really matter what cliche they use after the game ? who really cares ? At the end of the day, it's meaningless.

    They have to start playing better on the field.

    Besides, what Lee meant by saying saying "we haven't shot ourselves in the foot", is that they are fortunate to be .500 at this point, with all that's happened. That's all. Lighten up.

    Lou needs to start making some changes on the field.....we need to see more of the following players: Koyie Hill, (Soto is brutal right now), Reed, Angel Guzman.

    If Bradley goes on DL, will anyone be that bummed ? :-)

    I know I won't.



  • Aaron

    ....and look at your supposed team leader speaking out again, sounding like a complete, incompetent dumb-ass:

    "I'm concerned about the health of this team,'' said Derrek Lee, who doubled and homered as he continues to show signs of a stirring bat. ''Outside of that, we're at .500, and that's not where we expected to be. But we still haven't shot ourselves in the foot.''

    -Derrek Lee

    Wow, speechless..."but we still haven't shot ourselves in the foot."

    Obviously Lee wasn't at the game last night, where his rookie teammate took a no-hitter into the 7th inning, and his team completely let him down, especially himself with the dropped ball that led to Lou taking Wells out of the game. UNBELIEVABLE how idiotic Lee sounds this year. He just doesn't get it.

    How can Soriano, pretty much a me-first type of guy get it, and Lee doesn't?

  • cubs1967

    note to mr pinella:

    changes are required and U are the one in charge:

    guzman to closer. his stuff is as good as marmol and he appears more mature on the mound. gregg to 7th inning.

    hill to catch, at least 50% of the time.

    the SP do better and he would of stopped the wild pitch last nite by gregg. rite now, soto is rick wilkins, 1 good year and done.

    fox to 3rd-are U kidding me?? what is the worse thing to happen-we lose more games.

    fontenot back to 2nd; hopefully the position HE is suppose to play will bring his bat back.

    bradley to the DL for 6 weeks. play michah and reed in RF. the last thing we need is the BUST on this team 2 more years; his contract states if he misses 75 games the 3rd year is VOID; so do it.

    soriano to 3rd in the order: for the sake of 2010; do it now so the big baby can get used to his new spot for 2010 now; in real live pitching; not spring games that don't matter.

    to all those who continue to complain about the derosa trade: are we all that stupid????---honestly, every team has a budget, the zell co. stated payroll could be added after the season ended. somewhere between that and early december, it's obvious hendry was told the "supposed" $10 million that could be added was not gonna be there so he had to move salaries to add bradley. and bradley and miles and fontenot, all LH is what pinella and hendry wanted. marquis and derosa were traded for bradley. it's no coicendence bradley was signed after these trades. not that i agree w/ it-but give hendry a break; he did not trade derosa unless he was forced to. read between the lines.

    once again the cheap tribune co screws cubs fans by selling the team to a nutjob like zell who would not pony up the money to keep dero (and wood to a certain extent) so congrats on the 2009 team once again leaving cubs fans in tears. FYI-hill/wuertz/marquis are 11-3.

    remember that the next time waddell, patton or ascaino pitches.

    P.S. this site is awesome. i'm a diehard fan for for 37 years. this team breaks my heart. too bad i put cubs "binkys" in my both son's mouth at birth; now they are stuck rooting for a team going on 101 years and no championship. i can't believe it!!

  • Bryan

    We have the 3rd highest payroll in all of baseball. We should be making more intelligent roster decisions, providing better farm system development, and having more professional leadership both in the dugout and in the front office.

    This isn't about available payroll dollars from the Tribune or Zell. This is about a commitment to a winning franchise strategy (near and long term) that Hendry has yet to truly create, as evidenced with the likes of Pinella and his aging ways at the helm.

    We need guys like Brenly and Steve Stone in some level of organizational development positions that get and can drive what "team and chemistry" really mean.

  • Aaron

    Bryan,

    Couldn't agree more with your Brenly and Stone comment. They are two of the brightest baseball minds out there. I think Stone needs to be a GM or Asst. GM, and Brenly also needs to be one or the other.

    Mark Grace needs to be hired on as a bench coach to Ryne Sandberg when Lou leaves. The reason for that, is Grace keeps the players loose, and he's funny. If you're doing bad, the last thing you need is a bench coach that's all serious, and won't let you play the game the way you know how.

    The reason we're so bad, is we're up tight. That's why we've been so terrible in the postseason as well.

  • SuzyS

    Sigh

  • Charles

    I can't believe that I just read from the Tribune a quote from Kevin Gregg that said last night's fiasco was "just a glitch in the system; we're not going to be perfect all year." What an absolutely absurd statement from a guy who fails to come through when his team REALLY needs him. He is so used to being a part of a losing team, last night's failure doesn't even sink in...how sad.

    Derek Lowe goes for Atlanta tonight and after the downer last night, it will be another very long night for the Cubs!

  • cc002600

    PeteM.....I could not agree more about Wood. I said that at the time in the winter. Gregg is a big step down from Wood and that was going to kill us more than losing Dero. I think its obvious now. This team does remind me of 2004. Underachieving and not very likable. There are about 7 guys on this team that I wish they could somehow dump: (i know it won't happen, thanks to some ridiculous contacts that no one would ever pick up.

    Sori, Lee, Heileman, Bradley, Miles, Gregg, Zambrano, Cotts.

    And please tell me what the heck happened to Soto ?????? OMG it looks like he never played before after such a great rookie year. HE IS BRUTAL. (and i know he is overweight and hurt, it was a rhetorical question). They need to play Hill more so Soto can heal.

    And we need to see more Reed.

    We have 2 guys playing out of position. Riot should be at 2B, and maybe Blanco should play SS for now...and Fuku should be in RF. Bradley is terrible. Reed should be in CF.

    This is just another hodge podge team put together by Hendry.

    And when do we stop saying its still "early" ? The season is now 1/3 over. It ain't early anymore. This is not a good team.

  • Topper

    Let's see. We want a balanced line up. DeRosa, Woods, Marquis vs. Heilman, Gregg, Bradley. What group would you want now? We lost a lot of leadership in the club house. Gregg threw a batting practice fast ball to Franceour. "Give me a 93 mph fast ball about waist high". The whole ball club is out of control. We are not even playing like a .500 ball club. I'm just waiting for this season to implode. If I were Wells, I would ask for a trade. We can't field when we need to. We can't get a clutch hit when we need it. We can't get the relief pitching when we need it. We are experiencing a total break down in all phases of our game. Heck, we can't even get the sale completed. The Rickett's have to be wondering if they bought this club at the absolute wrong time.

  • Bryan

    You pay athletes like Marmol, Gregg and Heilman MILLIONS of dollars each, and they can't even throw strikes. With all the players in the farm system, are there not any young arms that can just find the strikezone consistently?

    This is just downright sad currently. I just don't know how a guy like Gregg is still at the major league level, and that we were stupid enough to pick up this guy. It truly looks like he's throwing batting practice. What was Hendry thinking???

  • Cubbiefan07

    I've never seen anything like it with a guy pitching great baseball and I mean GREAT the first 5 starts of his big league career and not having a win yet!

  • MarioC

    what makes it worse is that the Reds AND the brewers lost last night...coulda shoulda woulda made up some ground

  • PeteM

    I really like Derosa's grit and style, but for his sake I hope he doesn't have to come back to the Cubs. While trading him was wrong there is no way he could live up to the all world status he has on this board. Cubs problems now are bigger than one player. I think the loss of Woods was as big or bigger because he was a highly spirited leader. I keep hearing what ateam leader Lee is I don't see it. Leaders have to lead on the field not in the clun house.

    Finally I will not bash Lou for pulling Wells last night. First and formost you want a win. If your Marmol and Gregg can't hold a 4 run lead is pathetic. With Marmol's control issues he would be no better as a closer right now. As an additional note he went thru one of these phases last year right before the all star break.

    Keep swinging for the fences we are only 4 games back.

  • Leeeee

    I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

  • elliot

    Neil, you are officially my hero. It takes a lot of heart and even more control of one's emotions to sit through a game like tonight. And then to post a complete post-game summary... I don't have any words for that.

    As for me, I'm giving up on this season. I made a comment during the preseason about my pessimism for the upcoming season, given that our starting right fielder was a bum, our starting first baseman was a bum, our catcher needs to get a gastric bypass surgery, we lost our MVP of 2008, Gregg is our closer, and we have no left-handers in the bullpen. I think my pessimism is well-warranted now. I hate to sound like a bandwagon fan, but I'm done. In a way, I think this is a better way to go than to continue supporting a team that I absolutely abhor.

    I asked Piniella IN-PERSON when they were going to bring up Jake Fox during the San Diego / Cubs series last weekend. He said he was aware of his stats down in AAA and we'd probably see him during interleague play. He told me, "We'll get a chance to see what the kid can do, yeah?" Actually, Lou, you've just answered your own f*cking question. NO, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE KID CAN DO, BECAUSE YOU'RE ROTTING HIM ON THE BENCH.

    I'm done with that idiot.

  • 09shine

    the only thing that gives me comfort is that we all suffer together..

  • PatPieper

    83 pitches and 2 hits allowed in 7 innings and he pulls the kid after an error by Lee? I imagine Piniella wanted to protect him and ensure his first win. Yeah right. Wells has been brilliant with nothing to show for it thanks to the bullpen. Soul crushing loss especially for the kid.

    My money is on Ted Lilly showing that Escobar punk what it really feels like to get drilled tomorrow night.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    What a horrible loss.

    Enough said.

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