Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Indians - 06/19/09

Vote 4 Votes

Game Sixty-Three: Cubs (31-31) vs. Indians (29-39)
Game Time - 1:20pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast Sports Net - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 183
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Rich Harden (4-3, 4.53/1.35) vs. Cliff Lee (4-6, 2.88/1.33)

Weather permitting ...Can the Cubs win two in a row? The come from behind victory against the White Sox showed the Cubs could hit for a couple of innings ... and now it is time to post wins on consecutive days for the first time since June 7 and June 9.

While the Cubs just completed a rain-shortened "Crosstown Classic", the next three days will be focused on two players the Cubs parted ways with over the winter. The return of Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood to Wrigley Field will make all of the headlines ... and both players figure to have a huge impact on the next three games, especially Mark DeRosa.

Kerry Wood was synonymous with the Chicago Cubs for over a decade ... Derrek Lee recently called him the 'Mr. Cub' of this generation. Wood has been good for the Indians, especially of late (2-2 with a 4.63 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP, eight out of 10 in save opportunities ... no hits or runs in last six games, 5 1/3 innings, with two walks and six strikeouts) and he credits his recent success with the fact he is throwing his devastating breaking ball for strikes.

Mark DeRosa spent two seasons with the Cubs and was traded on New Year's Eve for three minor league pitchers. The 2009 version of the Chicago Cubs has missed DeRosa, no doubt, but he has become a legend in Chicago over the last six months. Many will be on hand to show support for Mark DeRosa today, but Jim Hendry will not be at Wrigley to hear the cheers (and likely standing ovation). Hendry is in Omaha this weekend at the College World Series.

After a horrible start to the year, DeRosa has been on fire of late and figures to finish the year in a different uniform. DeRosa has hit safely in his last seven games and is hitting .323/.380/.600 with five home runs and three doubles in his last 16 games ... for the year, .280/.348/.479/.827 with 12 doubles, 13 home runs and 48 RBI in 64 games.

The Indians won seven of 11 before being swept by the Brewers at home. The Tribe scored 25 runs in the three losses ... their offense is not the problem, it is Cleveland's bullpen and every starter not named Cliff Lee.

The reigning AL Cy Young Award winner is coming off a gem against the Cardinals last Sunday night. Cliff Lee took a no-hitter into the eighth and is on top of his game right now. Lee has dominated the National League in Interleague Play. He is 2-0 in his last five starts against the NL with a 1.72 ERA and is 12-2 in 20 career Interleague starts with a 3.18 ERA.

The Cubs offense must make Cliff Lee work and get into their bullpen. While it all starts with Rich Harden, another good game from Alfonso Soriano would go a long way toward a win. Soriano recorded his first multi-hit game on Thursday since May 17 ...

Rich Harden will make his second start since coming off the DL last Friday. Harden put together a very good start, especially for a day game, but received no support from his offense. The Cubs lost 2-0 and were shutout for the fifth time on the year.

Rich Harden accepted responsibility for giving up a couple of early runs that put his team in a hole ... but Harden, like the rest of Piniella's staff, did his job. Harden allowed the two runs (a solo home run by Jason Kubel in the second and a RBI single by Joe Mauer in the third) on five hits in six innings with nine strikeouts ... and only two walks.

The Cubs will need a similar outing from Rich Harden this afternoon.

Harden has struggled at home, especially during the day, this season. Harden has been consistent with his comments since his trade to the Cubs last summer that he prefers to pitch at night. Harden is 2-3 in six home starts this season with a 5.58 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP ... during the day, 1-3 in six starts with a 5.28 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP. For the record, Harden is 3-0 in his three starts at night with a 3.32 ERA and a 1.11 WHIP.

This afternoon will be Rich Harden's fifth career start against the Indians. In five career games, four starts, Harden is 1-0 with a 3.27 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP.

  • Mark DeRosa - 0-for-1
  • Ryan Garko - 1-for-1
  • Travis Hafner - 2-for-4 with a double, a home run and 4 walks
  • Victor Martinez - 1-for-5 with a walk
  • Jhonny Peralta - 0-for-1
  • Kelly Shoppach - 0-for-1

The Cubs will face the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner for only the second time ... and for the first time since June 20, 2006. Cliff Lee beat the Cubs 4-2 in Cleveland and he allowed two runs, one earned, on six hits in 6 2/3 innings with a walk and three strikeouts. Cliff Lee beat Greg Maddux and Aramis Ramirez hit a home run off Lee in the sixth.

Cliff Lee has pitched much better than his 4-6 record and the Cubs' offense will struggle once again today if they do not make him work. Lee is 2-0 in his last three starts with a miniscule 1.96 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP (four walks and 15 strikeouts in his last 23 innings).

The Indians have not had troubles of late scoring runs and Lee has been unbeatable. The Cubs offense must run up his pitch count and get him out of the game as soon as possible. The Tribe has a very bad bullpen that even the Cubs' offense could take advantage of if they can get Lee out of the game.

  • Andres Blanco - 1-for-4
  • Milton Bradley - 2-for-9 with a home run and 2 walks
  • Ryan Freel - 6-for-11 with a triple and 2 walks
  • Reed Johnson - 2-for-5 with 2 walks
  • Aaron Miles - 1-for-3
  • Alfonso Soriano - 3-for-8 with a home run

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • PeteM

    I will admit I am eating a big crow sandwich on DLee

  • Gramps

    Gramps is believing more and more each day! Just a great win, hoping we can look back at these 2 games and say this is where our season turned around. What else can anyone say about Lee? He shows his leadership on the field.



    LOL to JimK re: Samurai Sams LOL



    Stay classy people and GO CUBS!

  • SuzyS

    Today's game was simply the best of the season. As Al McQuire used to say it was

    "Seashells and Balloons".

  • JimK

    And like you've been known to say, Matt, DLee hit it out with a toothpick.



    I note that "Classy" said after the game, "It was a good fastball, up and in. I was jammed a little, but managed to get it up, and there was enough wind to take it out." (Or something close to that.)

  • Matt Haggard

    Kerry gave Derrek a meatball..



    Shook off his catcher 2 times and gave Derrek a meatball.

  • JimK

    With DLee playing, you're always in the game. LOL. Thank you Roland and Suzy.



    I just wish a couple of the Sandbox Samauri (that's a joke, Sams) would have come out of the woodwork (so to speak) and said, "That was a great win!" They could also have said (with no criticism from the Happy Tent) that "This team is still in the woods."



    When Woodie faced DLee, I held my poor-reception radio close to my hearing aid and shouted at my trophy wife, "I'm in the middle of an emotional trainwreck!!!" That confrontation and DLee's blast will be talked about for decades. I was trying to gnaw on a chicken leg in the kitchen (again holding the radio) when Sori and Riot added a couple more Moments To Remember. All together now Cubs' fans, "We will have these moments to remember."



    If any of the younger set want to know, why the those words have moonlight meaning (too) for Gramps and me (and a couple of others), look up the song title.



    OK, it's back to work at Wrigley tomorrow. "MO" should be in our favor--but, as Dandy Don said, "MO is fickle".

  • Matt Haggard

    What in the blue hell?



    They won?



    What?

  • agustin rexach

    Aaron...the true positive is working! No pun intended.



    What a win, DLee is seeing the ball better than he has in two years! That team face is changing because last two wins have taken all 25 guys to do it.

  • agustin rexach

    excluding A.Miles

  • Neil

    I'll have the recap up later tonight ... someone have a couple for me. THIS WAS HUGE!

  • agustin rexach

    I will PAL!!

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Charles n Texas

    Neil mentioned in his comments before the game that the Cubs needed to get into the Indians' bullpen to really do some damage...exactly what happened. Luck plays a big part in baseball quite often, and it sure feels nice that the Cubs got their share for a change. Surely this team can learn some things from the last two days...hopefully!!

  • Boseph Heyden

    Now THIS, this was a win. Down 7, but never stopping. The best part is that the players who show up to play day in and day out, those are the guys who picked this one up. This could be a turning point in the season if they keep scoring runs.

  • PeteM

    I'm on the Blanco Band wagon.

  • 09shine

    can't decide which comeback was better.. this one or the rockies game last year.. both were down by 7, but today i think the comeback started later and ended with a walkoff so i think this one might take it



    awesome game.

  • bparrish793

    The best part about last years was it was the backups who came back. Hank White and Hoffpauir among others. This years was awesome too. It was late in the game and off a former teammates.Idk you could choose either one.

  • PeteM

    Last year people thought we might be able to come back. Who thought that this year.

  • Roland

    Last year you would almost expect them to come back.

  • Neil

    They never gave up.

  • SuzyS

    HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!! 2 IN A ROW COME FROM BEHINDERS!!!



    CUBS WIN !!!!!



    UNBELIEVABLE.



    JimK...this one's for you.!!!

  • Roland

    Things are starting to turn around!

  • cubbie12

    CUBS WINN

  • Neil

    CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!



    What a great hop!

  • 09shine

    gregg getting 5 outs that inning

  • cubbie12

    the 2 guys who everyone was ripping on before the year (lee and gregg) have been huge latley

  • cubbie12

    ughhhhhhh

  • cubbie12

    wow what a play

  • Jim

    Was hoping for a Jake Fox walk-off. THey need to score soon, rain is coming.

  • SuzyS

    Come on Gregg....Xtra innings...time for Z to start swinging the bat to loosen up.

  • Neil

    DLEE!!!!!

  • Jon

    Jon | June 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply

    We need to get rid of Harden. He's soaking up $$$$ and wasting our time.



    Today we're going to need a big, rally, similar to the game last season against Colorado....that DeRo topped off with a homer....



    Oh yeah, none of us forgot that...







    DID I CALL IT???!!

  • Bryan

    Baseball is certainly a funny game sometimes. The American pasttime indeed.

  • SuzyS

    DLEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!



    Come on FOX.

  • Roland

    Derek Lee is making Jim K proud!

  • Jim

    It is time to move DLee back to the 3hole

  • cubbie12

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • cubbie12

    get wild kerry

  • Boseph Heyden

    Heh, the most loved man in Chicago at moment vs. the most hated. So many different things wrong with this.

  • SuzyS

    I want Kerry to do well...but not here.

  • cubbie12

    come on marmol step up

  • cubbie12

    man i wanted to see that one by theriot drop so bad

  • Jim

    Well Kerry a perfect setup for your return to Wrigley. Can we get to him? Lets hope. I see a fired up fastball from Woody. The adrenaline will be pumping.

  • SuzyS

    Think he'll hit someone?

  • SuzyS

    Win, Lose or draw...it is just good to see them getting some hits again.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Unfortunately, this also means that we will see Kerry Wood if we don't get this done.

  • Neil

    Soriano with another big hit.

  • Boseph Heyden

    And that is why I never get on Soriano's case.

  • SuzyS

    Sori !!!!!///Come on Riot!!!

  • Neil

    ANDY WHITE!!!!

  • SuzyS

    Oops, Koyle Hill pinch hitting.

  • SuzyS

    This guy has an 11.09 era...Think Fontenot can get on?

  • SuzyS

    Hidden in all this is a nice job by our rule 5 guy...Patton....2 innings...no runs. Not bad for a guy that never pitched above A ball before this season.

  • cubbie12

    aaron miles should be cut and bobby scales called up

  • cubbie12

    blanco should be platooning at 2nd with fonenot and jake fox every day at 3rd...

  • Neil

    Derrek Lee with another home run...

  • Charles n Texas

    Once upon a time when the Cubs had a potent offense, they had the potential to give Cliff Lee a real battle, regardless of his superior abilities. He's far too good a pitcher for this brand of Cub "hitters" to handle. Yesterday was a glimmer of hope, but what's ailing the Cubs is of the terminal type of malady...this is not just a typical "slump" which all teams and players go thru for a short spell every summer; this is a full-blown failure of too many players for a LONG time and not ending in time to be a contender. Convince me I'm in error.

  • SuzyS

    Charles, wish I could...but it doesn't look good. The one thing aout this game though...Cliff Lee is a true ace...as opposed to other games where the Cubs made average pitchers look like aces.



    Hendry needs to make a couple of moves...but I don't think he has the financial wherewithal to get a difference maker or 2.



    The other thing is...I no longer trust the guy to make the right move.

  • Jeff

    Our fearless GM isn't even at the game SuzyS ... opportune time for him to get out of dodge ... he saves himself from watching this beat-down, and he misses day one of the DeRosa/Wood lovefest ...

  • Baron

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?cat=Situational&cut_type=39&conference=MLB&year=season_2009&sort=722





    Cubs are officially 1st at something -- team average with RISP .... 1st from the bottom ie. OFFICIALLY, THE LEAST CLUTCH batting lineup in baseball.







  • GaryLeeT

    Wilson, unfortunately "waiting to turn things around" has been the theme of this season. Us older guys can more easily recognize that when it comes to this year's team, it's all wrong and it just ain't happenen this year.

  • Wilson, T

    Whoever said Harden was a waste of money should go crawl in a large hole. He is making 7 mil this year, a huge bargain. Even if he makes 25 starts that is a steal. He'll come around and stop walking guys. Harden will always give up bombs, but solo shots are fine. His control has been off so far, but I think he will turn it around.

  • Jeff

    I hope you're right. His stuff is too good to have an ERA over 5.



    He picked a bad day to have one of his worst starts as a Cub though, with the reigning Cy Young winner on the mound for the other team.

  • Jeff

    It's back to reality for Soriano, as anyone with half a brain could have figured out.



    Back to reality for the offense as well. Sorry Lou, those changes you've been contemplating for weeks still need to happen.

  • RynoTiger

    So um I believe that is 5 of the first 9 outs have been strikeouts for the Cubs.



    yah ummm..someone tell Carrie Muskrat to write an article that the alive bats yesterday was just a mere oddity and that offensive help is needed.

  • Neil

    Harden gets the first hit off Lee...



    Lee's 40th pitch on the single to Harden. Harden 62 pitches after three innings.

  • GaryLeeT

    Looks like Lou is prepared to let Harden take his lumps. He looks as good as when I saw him at the game against Marlins. I am not holding out for a Theriot grand slam to save the day in this one though.

  • Boseph Heyden

    They forgot that DeRosa isn't the only guy on the team?

  • Jon

    We need to get rid of Harden. He's soaking up $$$$ and wasting our time.



    Today we're going to need a big, rally, similar to the game last season against Colorado....that DeRo topped off with a homer....



    Oh yeah, none of us forgot that...

  • SuzyS

    Whatever it is...he doesn't have it today.

    Later guys.

  • Neil

    Can't walk three and fall behind ... all three walks by Harden have scored.

  • Matt Haggard

    I..ummm...need to go...somewhere..



    My dog like...ate my homework...

  • Jeff

    What is the deal with Harden? For a guy with lights-out stuff, he has been awfully mediocre this season.

  • Matt Haggard

    Now he's calling third strikes...

  • SuzyS

    Bad start...

  • Neil

    WOW!!! Gotta get the bats going...

  • GaryLeeT

    Oh well, 1 day of celebration and hope is better than no days.

  • cubbie12

    how the hell wasnt that a strike

  • SuzyS

    Lee - 14 pitches 1rdt inning

  • SuzyS

    I have a question for you Cub fans,,,today you are sitting in the bleachers...DeRo hits a homer and you catch it.

    Do you throw it back or keep it?

  • Roland

    Just do what all the rest of them do and bring a cheap baseball in and throw the cheap baseball back.

  • SuzyS

    I guess I'm stupid...sit in the bleachers a lot and never bring a ball.

  • Roland

    Reed Johnson!

  • paul k

    Just out of curiosity, but where was DeRosa and Wood's great leadership in the playoffs the past couple years?



    I am upset as anyone that they were traded and let go, but I have moved on. Maybe this weekend will supply a sense of closure for all of the fans still upset about it.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Eh...both years we got swept by the hottest team at the time. Really not a lot you can do against teams on a streak. The moves made were an overreaction and are very likely the reason we aren't winning or scoring.

  • paul k

    Funny how they were "un-hot" after the series against the Cubs though....



    That has to be the worst excuse ever.

  • roguesqr09

    there will be no closure for this cubs fan. those two are gone and obviously, based on the results this season, they probably shouldn't be. I will miss them both and will route on any team that they play for....well, maybe not the team, but at least the players. If dero ends up with the cards (heaven forbid) and they win the ws (heaven forbid) then I'll be happy for dero. the same with woody. after all he's been through he needs a ws. class acts may leave but should never be forgotten.



    and I refuse to simply move on as management continues to make worse and worse decisions just because they manage my favorite team.

  • Jim

    Why would you want to dismantle key pieces to a 97-win team?

  • JimK

    Re. DeRo, I hope we're in a position to give him something like a 2 year and $12 mil deal (or a little more) this winter. I'd take him now too in a trade if he and the Cubs could agree to an extension. But I don't think JH can do a new contract.



    Here's a question that a dozen people here probably have the authoritative answer to. It has to do with the size of Soto's weight gain over the winter.



    I looked everywhere, 6 weeks or so ago, for an indication of how fat Soto is. I found only one such source. It was a report by (I think) Miles or Levine in Mesa in which Lou said that Soto came back from the WBC having sat and gained about 5 pounds. Lou added that Soto needs to get back into playing shape. I found one story where a non-reporter blog guy said Soto had gained 25 pounds over the winter.



    So who can cite an authoritative source that Soto had/has a serious weight problem. An additonal 20-25 lbs for on a stocky build to begin with is a serious problem. But, at least for the month or two, he doesn't look different to me from last year.

  • Jim

    I personally feel that Soto would not have come to ST over-weight and I don't think he would have played in the WBC if Hank White was re-signed

  • Roland

    I don't think any weight statistics will be very accurate. I'd take a look at some pictures from last year and compare them to this year.

  • waldo7239117

    Do you think they will get the game in today?

  • Jim

    anyone else wathching the rain delay game. Can't beleive the difference in one season.

  • GaryLeeT

    97 win seasons are something most teams and fans can hang their hat on......unless that team has not won a W.S. in over 100 years. After 2 winless post seasons, and time running out for Hendry, he had to roll the dice. He had to do so, with one hand tied behind his back.

  • Neil

    Now looking at a 2:45pm first pitch

  • SuzyS

    I knew this weekend...would be tough with Woody and Dero in town...I find it curious that Hendry is out of town...no matter the reason.



    This is just a taste of what it is like to be a Pirates fan...How do they maintain any fan base...constantly trading away favorite sons all the time?



  • BUBrave

    DeRosa was a leader in all aspects that you need leadership. He produced on the field, he held himself accountable, he filled all the roles demanded of him, and he kept the clubhouse relaxed. This year the cubs are all running around with tight bungholes trying to do everything right, which is causing failure.

  • Neil

    Looking at a 2:30 first pitch...

  • roguesqr09

    I wish I was at wrigley. I'm positive the crowd will give him a standing O and I would kill to be there to enjoy the moment. He's class and we are in need of some class again in the clubhouse.

  • Jim

    Same goes for Wood. Another leader this team is in desperate need of. Both guys are class acts and this team could really use both of them in the clubhouse as well as on the field.

blog comments powered by Disqus







CCO Twitter Updates




Shop WrigleyvilleSports.com Today!


Twitter Sports

Cubs on Twitter

Displaying tweets tagged with #Cubs

via twitter sports net


Recent Comments


Chicago Cubs Online - Featured On The Web Here

Chicago Cubs Online - one of Chicago's best blogs
Chicago Cubs Online - on Chicago Sun Times Chicago Cubs Online - on Sports Illustrated

ChicagoCubsOnline on YouTube