Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. White Sox - 06/18/09

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Game Sixty-Two: Cubs (30-31) vs. White Sox (31-34)
Game Time - 1:20pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WGN TV - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 185
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Carlos Zambrano (4-2, 3.39/1.30) vs. Gavin Floyd (4-5, 4.84/1.39)

Weather permitting ... Will Lou deliver on his promise of change today? The Cubs manager apparently reached the end of his rope after another horrible day for the offense on Wednesday. Lou Piniella talked about making changes and reports after the team's fourth loss in a row to the Sox indicated the starting lineup would have a different look today.

The Cubs have scored two runs or less in 14 of the last 25 games and lead on the San Diego Padres in runs scored this season.

Milton Bradley just keeps on talking instead of producing. Bradley on Piniella: "I feel for Lou. He's doing all he can do. All he can do is write the lineup out. You've got the personnel and guys in here to get the job done, and we're just not doing it. He shouldn't have to go through everything he's going through."

Carlos Zambrano was slated to start the opener on Tuesday but after the rainout was announced Big Z was relegated to playing catch outside of the Cubs dugout. Zambrano agreed to be pushed to this afternoon to keep Ryan Dempster on schedule. Dempster will start the makeup game on Monday in Atlanta then will tend to matters concerning his daughter will the Cubs play the Tigers in Detroit.

The Cubs' offensive issues will not get any help this afternoon. While the reigning AL pitcher of the week in Jose Contreras was pushed to Friday, the Cubs will have to deal with a very good right-hander they have never faced before in Gavin Floyd.

Carlos Zambrano must set the tone early, be a leader and give the Cubs a chance to plate a couple of early runs ... and hopefully build a little confidence. Forget the fact that the Cubs are playing the Sox, the Cubs need a win today ...

Carlos Zambrano is coming off an excellent outing in Houston ... despite receiving a no-decision. Zambrano found a groove early on, threw strikes and pitched to contact. Following the Cubs 2-1 loss, Lou Piniella said he thought it was Zambrano's best outing since he's been in Chicago ... and Piniella was right. While Big Z tossed a no-no last season, Zambrano did not throw with the same command and confidence last September as he did in his last start in Houston. Zambrano pitched like an ace eight days ago and the Cubs need a similar outing today.

Other than his "little temper tantrum" on May 27 against the Bucs, Zambrano has performed quite well since returning from the DL on May 22. Big Z has allowed only five earned runs in his last four starts (1.75 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP) and the Cubs are 2-2 in those games.

Zambrano is just 1-1 in four starts at Wrigley this season with a 4.62 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP ... and his last, and only, home win of the year came on May 3 against the Marlins in the game he left in the fifth inning.

This afternoon will be Zambrano's tenth career start against the White Sox. Big Z is 5-2 in 11 career games, nine starts, with a 4.45 ERA and a 1.31 WHIP. Zambrano did not face the Sox a year ago and in 2007 he was 1-1 in two starts with a 4.91 ERA and a 0.95 WHIP ... the win came at the Cell and the loss was at the hands of Nick Massett, who was dealt to the Reds in the Ken Griffey, Jr. deal last year.

  • Jermaine Dye - 3-for-15 with 2 doubles and a home run
  • Josh Fields - 0-for-3
  • Paul Konerko - 7-for-22 with 4 home runs and 3 walks
  • A.J. Pierzynski - 5-for-15 with a home run and 2 walks
  • Scott Podsednik - 6-for-26 with 2 doubles and 2 walks
  • Jim Thome - 4-for-12 with a double, a home run and 2 walks
  • DeWayne Wise - 2-for-8 with a double

The Cubs will get their first look at Gavin Floyd this afternoon. Floyd was one of the main reasons the Sox made it to the post-season last year. Floyd posted a 17-8 record in 33 starts with a 3.84 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP.

After struggling to start the year (2-2 in five starts in April with a 5.52 ERA and a 1.77 WHIP, 1-3 in five starts in May with a 6.68 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP), Floyd has been lights out in his last three starts (1-0 with a 1.66 ERA and a 0.83 WHIP). Floyd was struggling with his command and with throwing strikes. In his first 60 1/3 innings of the year he issued 27 free passes and struck out only 51 but in his last 21 2/3 innings just four walks to go along with 20 strikeouts.

Of all the pitchers on the Sox current staff, not named Mark Buehrle, Gavin Floyd figures to pose the biggest challenge for the Cubs offense.

Floyd has allowed only three earned runs once since May 17 (five starts) and that was an eight-inning performance in Anaheim against the Angels. Floyd has had troubles on the road this season (2-3 in six road starts with a 7.97 ERA and a 1.66 WHIP) but it has been a while since he was blown out of a game. The Cubs must take advantage of every opportunity they get this afternoon ... because there will not be that many.

Alfonso Soriano is the only Cub on the active roster that has faced Floyd ... Soriano is 1-for-4.

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Gramps

    Gramps still believes!! GO CUBS!



    The only problem I have with this site is when people get personal. I see no need to call anybody a fat ass, slob, moron or anything like that. Let's all get our points across and stay classy!

  • JimK

    It was a very nice win today--except on this site. Everyone's enjoyment took a hit.



    "Quiet enjoyment" is the legal description for not having the turf you choose to possess, feel for and/or nurture stomped on to the point of provocation. Anger was provoked today "among kin" and it got nasty. Quiet enjoyment doesn't mean "No Shouting Acceptable". It does mean don't shout at another persons differing views and/or right of quiet enjoyment.



    In the real and judgemental world, the questions would be whose conducts contributed to the disturbance. Today, there was ample blame. Right now, I'm thinkng "Liberty and Justice for All" has a nice ring to it--even in the unstructured, unreal worlds we frequent.



    By the way, the "Don't Get Your Hopes Up" prevailed over the "Maybe It's Not Over Yet's (by a wide margin)--when the post-victory votes were counted. And that's O.K.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • cc002600

    nice win.



    But they still suck.



    Lou will trot out the same crap tomorrow. You can bet on it.



    And you just know that Derosa is going to beat them somehow this weekend. Bank on it.

  • SuzyS

    Wow...fell asleep in the fifth and just woke up...I should do that more often.



    Great Win...GO CUBBIES!!!!!

  • Boseph Heyden

    This was a pretty good win. Nowhere close to that Rockies win last year (we were down 8-0 in the third, it was a gloomy day before the game...just the perfect scenario; plus I was in the bleachers for that :P), but hopefully this lights the fire under the butts of the Cubs and gets them moving. Now the big test comes when they take on the man who would be their entire offense tomorrow.

  • Neil

    HUGE, HUGE WIN!

  • GaryLeeT

    Fun, but I need a lot more mouth wash than a 1 time come from behind win, to get all the bad taste out.

  • Matt Haggard

    Ditto.



    Ain't in a good start though? Maybe?

  • Matt Haggard

    This feels like the Rox come from behind win last season.



    Too good.

  • Sandberg4Eva72

    CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!



    SUCK IT AARON!!!!!!!!!!

  • Neil

    This conversation ends here. Everyone's views are welcome and if you do not agree, do not read. I will not allow personal attacks.



    I will delete comments left after this.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Go away.

  • nick

    Nice Come from behind Win!!

  • bparrish793

    BEST WIN OF THE SEASON. NOT ONLY DID WE COME BACK, BUT ITS AGAINST THE SOX!!!

  • nick

    SORIANO!!! CUBS WIN!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    SUCK IT SUCK IT SUCK IT SOX!



    SUCK IT SUCK IT SUCK IT SOX!



    YES!

  • Sandberg4Eva72



    I agree...it's hilarious to think that Bradley supporters out there come out of the woodwork nearing the end of June, and say, "see, the last 5 games he's done so well."



    That's frickin' hilarious. He came out of April with a .120 avg or something like that.....May wasn't much better. You can't all of a sudden say the dude has found his stroke when your sample size is 5 games. It's utterly ridiculous. Even if he hits .270 by the end of June (highly unlikely unless he goes 2-for-3 or 3-for-4 in every game from here to the end of the month), he's still lost us quite a few games with his bat.



    Folks, we are closer to last place than we are to first place. In general, that tells you your season is over. The Cards and Brewers have won 2 in a row, and opened up a 4 1/2 game lead over us. Sorry, but unless we pull off a major trade for some offense, we're not going to pull this off. We have a broken down Soriano, an equally broken down Bradley...both underperforming as well. Our starting catcher is 30 lbs overweight, and isn't even hitting his weight for that matter. Our 1B has no power left in him, and lacks the bat speed necessary for a middle of the order bat...often missing by a wide margin on fastballs right down the middle that are 93 mph or more. Our CF extraordinaire is twirling into the ground again, and is posting even worse numbers than last year. Our only RBI threat won't be back until after the All-Star break, which, at that point will be far too late. What is there to hope for?



    A manager that wakes up and plays deserving talent in place of Soriano, Soto, Bradley, and Fukudome? Sorry, outside of Fox and Hoffpauir, you still have 2 spots to be filled by equally underperforming players. Should we hope for a GM that finally DL's Soriano when he should've been disabled a month ago? Should we hope the same GM wises up and realizes Aaron Miles is NOT a major league hitter at this point and DFA him?



    Sorry, on all accounts, we have a GM and manager asleep at the wheel, and nobody above them to hold them accountable.





    I said it in the offseason, when I met their entire player development staff at the Winter Meetings, I said the Pirates were a team to be reckoned with in the future, and they're on the rise. They really have their act together, and they have specific goals in mind. They realize they're a few years out from truly competing, so they're prepared to make unpopular moves like the McLouth trade (though, with his new staff in place, I think Huntington blew this deal not getting enough), but they're on the right track, and they play good baseball.



    The Rockies are also a team I could like with their youth, and good mix of offense and arms in the rotation. They ripped off 11 games in a row...and in 2007, had that impressive run in September as well, going all the way to the World Series.



    Old, veteran teams are NOT fun to watch. Just ask any fan in San Francisco about how much they enjoyed that the past several years (prior to this year). Or Mets fans with their club of aging free agent signees a few years back. It's not enjoyable to watch, and there is a distinct reason why we've seen the likes of the Rays, Red Sox, Rockies, Phillies, Marlins, etc. in the World Series the past few years...it's because they have the young players that have the fire to get it, and the energy to get there. By the time we're into October, our veterans are toast...they become tired old players...and now, those same players can't even get going this year.





    LOL....GAME OVER!!!!!!! The Cubs teased us by actually scoring a run...sorry.



    If I were a starting pitcher on the team, I'd just walk off the mound. The offense is so embarrassing. Have you also noticed that our pitchers are even getting hacked off with their AB's? They do this, because they know it's solely on them to win the ballgames with their arms AND bats. Dempster, Lilly, and Harden were recent ones to get pissed with AB's...flying out or grounding out (even without runners on base). Zambrano is nothing new, but he was really pissed today when he struck out.



    I mean, Z pitched a hell of a game, and had Bradley not bobbled the ball, we might've had a play at the plate with Dye running. He hung a slider to Ramirez....big deal....pitchers are going to make mistakes. 3 GIDP's is all I have to say. That's pathetic





    there's nothing good about this team but the starting pitching....NOTHING...the pen is even porous.



    Not a single one of our hitters should be in the majors right now....Jake Fox and Hoffpauir might be the only ones. Theriot swinging for the fences is a joke.



    I don't know what else to say. This team is lifeless. LIFE LESS...........LIFE LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    What is the team gonna take from this to begin with? Piniella is full of crap. Big changes?!? LOL....Piniella threatened that in like April or some crap....nothing changed, and the play didn't change on the field either, because he kept running the same damn lineup out there.



    Hey Lou! You really wanna make a difference?!? How about this:



    1)DFA Miles and bring up Scales

    2)DL Soriano and bring up Fuld, or Deeds, I really don't care

    3)DL Soto, and tell him it's to get his ass in shape, and bring up Clevenger or Robinson, or Castillo instead...again, I really don't care.

    4)if you're not going to use Patton, then why the hell would you even have 12 pitchers!!!!!!!!! Bring up more offense if you won't use him.

    5)trade anyone and everyone on the roster but 3 of your starting pitchers, Ascanio, Marmol, and Guzman, and Hoffpauir and Fox....everyone else can go



    I realize #5 ain't going to happen, but I'm serious about it...we have no chance



    Len said it best when he was like, "It's the same broken record....over and over and over again. Nothing changes"



    ...

  • SuzyS

    Sandberg 4Eva72

    You may not like what Aaron posts...but his posts are honest, heartfelt, and usually informative.

    If all you can offer is mockery...then please get your jollies elsewhere.

  • pete187

    There's a difference between heartfelt and informative and overwhelming, constant negativity. Unfortunately many of us HAVE been going elsewhere as a result.

  • Aaron

    The true mark of a man is when he comes across someone with differing opinion...and what does he do with it. Does he have respectful debate? Is he like Ryno...? Or does he run away?



    I would think any forum online these days is for respectful debate, otherwise there would be no point. You'd just be posting to hear your own voice. It's true, some people just vent. But most people try to engage each other with good debate, and that's what has made this site so good. If you fall into the latter category, then I feel sorry for you as a person.

  • GaryLeeT

    It's a little premature to try and tell Aaron "HAH!" with a re-post of his comment because A)The Cubs have not won yet, and B) Even if they do, they have a very long way to go before they prove that this game is more than an apparition.

  • Aaron

    LOL...he's one of those fans I mention that come out of the woodwork to say, "HAH"...just like with Bradley (though, they neglect to mention he struck out before Lee, almost ruining a golden opportunity for us to score, bobbled a ball that we would've stopped Dye from scoring in all likelihood, etc.)



    I'm to the point, and I'm sure a lot would agree, that I'll believe it when I see it (in terms of our offense waking up).





    as a side note....winning a game like this, grabbing a victory from the jaws of defeat....this is something that a team can build on. It was all well and good the other week when we had that offensive explosion, I believe it was in Houston....but that was a blow-out. This was a tight game, and players can build on this, because it's a huge confidence booster. Jake Fox can even build on this. Hell, he took the best lefty reliever out there, and nearly took him yard. Soriano can build on this...he had a couple hits, and went the other way with a game-winning blooper. It's hits like those when a team realizes they don't have to hit the ball out of the park to win.



    It's Reed Johnson getting on base, Blanco getting a perfect bunt down (unfortunately Aaron Miles is still on this team, as he did NOTHING good), and Soriano going the other way. Mentally, that's a hard-fought victory. If we would've had Lee, Soto, and Fox all hitting home runs, and winning the game that way, I don't think anything would change, and guys would continue to swing for the fences.



    Let's hope Soriano builds off this, and the rest of the team notices they don't have to swing for the fences to win. Plain and simple.



    Go Cubs!!! Woohoo...back to .500....LOL

  • Aaron

    nice job with cutting and pasting home slice...why don't you take a look at some of the other comments on here as well.



    Furthermore, we have Gregg on the mound. If you think that's going to help matters, you're out of your mind. Soto, Hoffpauir, and Fox had the hardest hits that inning, and Lee's was a lazy fly that reached the basket. Fox hit his a TON, but ended up flying out to the deepest part of the park.



    I'm not wrong with any of those comments, because I can back each and every one of them up....something you clearly can't, because you haven't added anything of substance...sorry, just stating it like it is. I can copy and paste anyone's comments I want, and try to make them look stupid. Fortunately for you, and for others, I don't, because I know things are said when people get pissed off, just as I am.



    Isn't this like the second time I've had to go over this with you anyway? Add something original, or simply don't post at all

  • nick

    Wow, I leave for ten minutes and I miss it all! Nice job Lee and Soto.

  • elliot

    unbelievable

  • Baron

    GEOVANNIEEEEE!!!

  • Baron

    D. LEEEEE!!!!

  • Aaron

    there's nothing good about this team but the starting pitching....NOTHING...the pen is even porous.



    Not a single one of our hitters should be in the majors right now....Jake Fox and Hoffpauir might be the only ones. Theriot swinging for the fences is a joke.



    I don't know what else to say. This team is lifeless. LIFE LESS...........LIFE LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    What is the team gonna take from this to begin with? Piniella is full of crap. Big changes?!? LOL....Piniella threatened that in like April or some crap....nothing changed, and the play didn't change on the field either, because he kept running the same damn lineup out there.



    Hey Lou! You really wanna make a difference?!? How about this:



    1)DFA Miles and bring up Scales

    2)DL Soriano and bring up Fuld, or Deeds, I really don't care

    3)DL Soto, and tell him it's to get his ass in shape, and bring up Clevenger or Robinson, or Castillo instead...again, I really don't care.

    4)if you're not going to use Patton, then why the hell would you even have 12 pitchers!!!!!!!!! Bring up more offense if you won't use him.

    5)trade anyone and everyone on the roster but 3 of your starting pitchers, Ascanio, Marmol, and Guzman, and Hoffpauir and Fox....everyone else can go



    I realize #5 ain't going to happen, but I'm serious about it...we have no chance



    Len said it best when he was like, "It's the same broken record....over and over and over again. Nothing changes"

  • Baron

    oh Hoffpauir got a hit -- this obviously means Miles will replace him tomorrow.

  • Aaron

    so true Baron...so true

  • GaryLeeT

    Hey Neil, look at the bright side. All you have to do is cut and paste your game wraps.

  • Jimbo

    Pardon me while I go vomit.

    Anyways......

    Time to start looking forward to a potentially exciting Bear's season!!!!!

  • Boseph Heyden

    Well...good to know if we fix the offense, we still have the bullpen issues.

  • Joe

    3 guys who are all batting around .250 have all the rbi's for the Sox. At least the Sox hitters get hits with risp. After the last two days the Sox wish they could play the Cubs 18 times this year. How much longer before the team is in last place?

  • Charles n Texas

    Game after game after game..no consistent offense (really NO offense), regardless of the pitcher faced. So Piniella says some changes have to be made but it seems that is just "talk" nothing more. I heard an interesting interview this week with Huston Street, Rockies closer, who said his new manager J. Tracy came in and DEMANDED accountability from his players or if they failed to produce, they would find someone else taking their place. No if, ands, or buts and he meant business. What a novel idea!

  • RynoTiger

    Good guys from today's game.



    I believe on 2 of my fantasy baseball teams I have Floyd and Zambrano..both pitched well today so I should get some nice points!

  • Joe

    You mean pitchers will make mistakes unless they are pitching against the Cubs. Then they all look like Cy Young and can do no wrong. This team is painful to watch. At least last summer was an enjoyable regular season. This team will be lucky to finish .500 and that is sad for the third highest payroll in the league.

  • Aaron

    LOL....GAME OVER!!!!!!! The Cubs teased us by actually scoring a run...sorry.



    If I were a starting pitcher on the team, I'd just walk off the mound. The offense is so embarrassing. Have you also noticed that our pitchers are even getting hacked off with their AB's? They do this, because they know it's solely on them to win the ballgames with their arms AND bats. Dempster, Lilly, and Harden were recent ones to get pissed with AB's...flying out or grounding out (even without runners on base). Zambrano is nothing new, but he was really pissed today when he struck out.



    I mean, Z pitched a hell of a game, and had Bradley not bobbled the ball, we might've had a play at the plate with Dye running. He hung a slider to Ramirez....big deal....pitchers are going to make mistakes. 3 GIDP's is all I have to say. That's pathetic

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    well said.



    They are going to loose again.

    I'm done watching this crap!

  • Baron

    You you still have the lesbians number?

  • Neil

    Great play by Soriano...

  • nick

    Yep, time for Hill to start getting some much needed playing time.

    Good to see Bradley with another hit. Now if only him Sori and Lee could all be hot at the same time, much easier said than done of course.

  • Gregg

    I think what the Cubs should do is keep running until they're tagged out. If Theriot hits a single to RF, he should leave the box at full speed, round first, and keep running until they tag him out. The whole lineup needs to do employ this tactic. Can't hurt, right?

  • Aaron

    LOL....what a fat pudgy P.O.S. that has no value, even with his glove this year.....I think he still leads all of baseball in GIDP's and he hasn't even played in all the games.



    3 GIDP's....yup, that'll kill any momentum

  • Reggie

    Is there a more found out hitter than Geovany Soto in the MLB this year?

  • Neil

    Back-to-back hits ... at least they tied it

  • Reggie

    The chanting worked, join me.

  • nick

    So let me get this straight, with two outs we intentionaly walk A.J. who is 0 for 2, to pitch to Anderson who is 1 for 1, and he gets a hit and we are now down by one, that worked out well. We are playing so scared right now it is pathetic.

  • Aaron

    LOL....oh, I'm laughing my ass off with the patheticness of this team.



    You usually never see an intentional base on balls to a player of Pierzynski's caliber in the freaking 6th inning...but Piniella was playing the game like we were tied in the 9th inning...LOL....how pathetic



    1-0 pale hose....GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bparrish793

    We gave up a run, game over!

  • nick

    Sori absolutely needs some time off! Where the heck is Fox!!

  • nick

    So much for that.

  • nick

    Come Z, you are our only hope.

  • Reggie

    Its got so desperate that I've taken up Yoko-Lennon chanting. *All we are saying, is give us some runs*

  • nick

    Wow, that was the best inning I have seen out of our offense in awhile, a hit and two walks, Yikes.

  • waldo7239117

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    http://waldo7239117.blogspot.com/

  • GaryLeeT

    Am I the only one who wishes they could run out onto the field and start clubbing the Cub position players with ball bats? And they just stand there and taking it, because they know they deserve it? No? Just checking.

  • nick

    Bradley with a hit, DLee with the DP, ugh.

  • nick

    Man, so far Lou's HUGE lineup shakeup is working out just peachy!

  • Jimbo

    I just looked at the radar, and IMO, this game is going without a delay. Therefore, our hitters NEED to start being a bit more patient against Floyd (as if that isnt a wise strategy anyways).

  • Horatio

    Its true Bradley is not the brightest guy in the league, but I really believe his injuries have been hampering him. Lets not look to remove him from the lineup the day after he's gotten 2 hits.



    Soriano is the one that needs to be moved. Check the stats - Soriano hasn't had a 2 hit game since May 17 - over a month. That is ridiculous. He's either hurt or in the worst slump of his career. Either way, action needs to be take to move him in the order, put him on the DL, or bench him for awhile. A tough decision needs to be made to better the team.

  • Jim

    Maybe the Cubs should give Edmonds a call. Option Bradley to AAA and hope someone picks him up off waivers and if not he has to play in Iowa. Win/Win.

  • Aaron

    LOL...like your thinking...



    on a side note...the baseball gods are telling us to blow this thing up. The hit by Blanco should've been in CF, and we'd have a run, and runners on 1st and 3rd, with our main power threat coming up (Zambrano)LOL...



    there's always next year

  • SuzyS

    Not if we don't move some contraxts there isn't.

  • Dave in STL

    I think Lou is afraid to start Hoffpauir & Fox. If the Cubs score 6 runs, he'll have to hear it from the entire Cub Kingdom.."I told you so". Therefore, if he doesn't play them, it's same 'ole, same 'ole after the "L". We didn't hit w/ RISP. I'm with you all, get some fresh talent in there. I wrote Sorryiano off after letting Pujols turn a routine single into a double. He's a piece of sh1t. Go shag some flies on the softball diamond.

  • cc002600

    Dave,



    C'mon, you are too hard on Fonzie, our hero !!!



    Are you really expecting him to catch flyballs and not turn doubles into triples for a mere $18M a year ????



    How is he going to feed his family on that paltry sum ??



    :-)



    In all seriousness, I blame Lou for putting him out there everyday when the guy is hurt. It's just mind boggling to me.







  • Bryan

    As usual, we bring a hot bat up from AAA and we.....sit him on the bench!



    Lou is just such a genius!

  • Justin

    Soriano NEEDS to sit. Fox's D can't be worse than his, plus he is one of the only Cubbies to hit the ball hard yesterday. Koyie Hill should have got the start too. At least Lou woke up and sat Miles. We were teased with the idea of some changes, and this ain't it....sorry.

  • nick

    Way to change things up Lou, good job, judas priest! At least Miles isn't in there.

  • SuzyS

    AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!! Some shakeup.

    Please do something Lou.

  • skeldor

    Lou is so full of crap and is all talk no action. If he wanted to "shakeup" then he should have started Fox and Hoff or Hill something. Getting Miles out of the line-up isn't a shakeup it's more like common sense.

  • paul k

    I think it's time to start cutting Bradley some slack. Last 5 games: BA.438 OBP.471 SLG.563 OPS1.033



    He and Lee are the only ones hitting lately. It's too bad the inning often ends with them both on base.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Nope, .230 by June 10th was reasonable and he didn't come close. Those were at least Jacques Jones numbers, and Bradley couldn't even do THAT right. Now, if he wants to go on such a hot streak that he can, say, be hitting .270 by the end of June, then maybe he's got some hope. In the meantime, he's pretty worthless.

  • Aaron

    I agree...it's hilarious to think that Bradley supporters out there come out of the woodwork nearing the end of June, and say, "see, the last 5 games he's done so well."



    That's frickin' hilarious. He came out of April with a .120 avg or something like that.....May wasn't much better. You can't all of a sudden say the dude has found his stroke when your sample size is 5 games. It's utterly ridiculous. Even if he hits .270 by the end of June (highly unlikely unless he goes 2-for-3 or 3-for-4 in every game from here to the end of the month), he's still lost us quite a few games with his bat.



    Folks, we are closer to last place than we are to first place. In general, that tells you your season is over. The Cards and Brewers have won 2 in a row, and opened up a 4 1/2 game lead over us. Sorry, but unless we pull off a major trade for some offense, we're not going to pull this off. We have a broken down Soriano, an equally broken down Bradley...both underperforming as well. Our starting catcher is 30 lbs overweight, and isn't even hitting his weight for that matter. Our 1B has no power left in him, and lacks the bat speed necessary for a middle of the order bat...often missing by a wide margin on fastballs right down the middle that are 93 mph or more. Our CF extraordinaire is twirling into the ground again, and is posting even worse numbers than last year. Our only RBI threat won't be back until after the All-Star break, which, at that point will be far too late. What is there to hope for?



    A manager that wakes up and plays deserving talent in place of Soriano, Soto, Bradley, and Fukudome? Sorry, outside of Fox and Hoffpauir, you still have 2 spots to be filled by equally underperforming players. Should we hope for a GM that finally DL's Soriano when he should've been disabled a month ago? Should we hope the same GM wises up and realizes Aaron Miles is NOT a major league hitter at this point and DFA him?



    Sorry, on all accounts, we have a GM and manager asleep at the wheel, and nobody above them to hold them accountable.

  • Jim

    Bla, Bla, Bla.



    How is Bradely still hitting 3rd. Time to put Lee back in the 3 hole.

  • Boseph Heyden

    I wouldn't say we're totally out yet, since we did make a bigger comeback in 2007...but then again, that team showed a hell of a lot more fire and heart than this team is. I will say this: I won't be angry if the Pirates overtake everyone and win the Central (or at least the Wild Card).

  • Aaron

    I said it in the offseason, when I met their entire player development staff at the Winter Meetings, I said the Pirates were a team to be reckoned with in the future, and they're on the rise. They really have their act together, and they have specific goals in mind. They realize they're a few years out from truly competing, so they're prepared to make unpopular moves like the McLouth trade (though, with his new staff in place, I think Huntington blew this deal not getting enough), but they're on the right track, and they play good baseball.



    The Rockies are also a team I could like with their youth, and good mix of offense and arms in the rotation. They ripped off 11 games in a row...and in 2007, had that impressive run in September as well, going all the way to the World Series.



    Old, veteran teams are NOT fun to watch. Just ask any fan in San Francisco about how much they enjoyed that the past several years (prior to this year). Or Mets fans with their club of aging free agent signees a few years back. It's not enjoyable to watch, and there is a distinct reason why we've seen the likes of the Rays, Red Sox, Rockies, Phillies, Marlins, etc. in the World Series the past few years...it's because they have the young players that have the fire to get it, and the energy to get there. By the time we're into October, our veterans are toast...they become tired old players...and now, those same players can't even get going this year.

  • waldo7239117

    I saw on the Cubs message boards that someone heard on a radio coversation that the Cubs and White Sox (on June 28) play a 12:05 game at US cellular Field and play a night game at Wrigley. I can say it right and have no proof.



    http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-cubs&tid=360635



    That is what I found.

  • waldo7239117

    Starting Lineup: No changes



    Soriano LF

    Theriot SS

    Bradley RF

    Lee 1B

    Soto C

    Fontenot 3b

    Fukudome cf

    Blanco 2b

    Zambrano P

  • cc002600

    By the way, I heard on the radio that our favorite guy is once again in the starting lineup at leadoff.



    Just shoot me now.



    I just don't understand how you can keep trotting him out there day after day after day after day when he CLEARLY is bothered by his knee, and you have some very good viable alternatives in Hoffpair or Fox, that can actually hit the ball. (Imagine that ?)



    His average is now down to .225 and he makes mistakes in LF every game b/c he can't move. He goes 0 for 4 every figgin Day. WTF.



    Somebody please explain the logic to me. I just cannot believe how ridiculous it is.



    At least he took Miles out. Blanco is starting. YIPPEEEEE !!!!

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