Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Brewers - 05/08/09

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Game Twenty-Nine: Cubs (16-12) vs. Brewers (16-13)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WGN TV - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 187
Location - Miller Park, Milwaukee

Randy Wells (0-0, -.--/-.--) vs. Dave Bush (1-0, 4.36/1.15)

Updated - 8:26pm C.T. - WGN Radio reported Aramis Ramirez dislocated his left shoulder. No timetable on his return. X-Rays/MRI is scheduled for Ramirez.

Updated - 5:15pm C.T. - Before the Cubs traded Joey Gathright to the Orioles for Ryan Freel on Friday afternoon, they assigned Gathright to Triple-A after he cleared waivers. The move of Gathright before the trade opened a spot for Randy Wells to be called up to make tonight's start against the Brewers.

Ryan Freel is expected to join the Cubs in Milwaukee and be activated on Saturday. The Cubs will have to make another roster move prior to activating Ryan Freel.

After sweeping the two-game series in Houston, the Cubs will try to win their third in a row behind Randy Wells. Wells will be recalled from Triple-A Iowa and will make his first Major League start in place of the injured Carlos Zambrano.

Reports during Thursday night's game indicated Derrek Lee could return to the starting lineup tonight. The Cubs will wait to see how Lee feels following the plane ride from Houston to Milwaukee. Lee has struggled in his career against Dave Bush (4-for-27 with a double) and it might be a good time to give him another day off.

The Brewers won four games in a row before losing to the Reds on Thursday night...and Milwaukee's pen has a much different look than the first weekend of the season.

The Cubs won two of three in Milwaukee with one of the wins coming off a ninth inning home run by Alfonso Soriano. After beginning the season on the DL, Trevor Hoffman is a perfect 4-4 in save opportunities and has not allowed an earned run yet this season (three hits in five innings with five strikeouts and no walks). Hoffman has turned Brewers' games into eight-inning contests so far this season.

Randy Wells was 3-0 in five starts with Iowa this season. He allowed only eight runs on 19 hits in 21 2/3 innings in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League. Wells struck out 21 and walked just seven (2.77 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP)

Wells pitched in three games out of the Cubs' pen last season and one for the Blue Jays at the beginning of the year. Toronto selected Wells in the Rule 5 draft in December of 2007 but after one game offered him back to the Cubs. In four career games at the big league level Wells has not allowed an earned run in 5 1/3 innings...three walks and one strikeout.

Tonight will be Wells' first career Major League start after 184 games over seven minor league seasons (43-26 with a 3.74 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP in 184 games, 82 starts, with 574 strikeouts and 191 walks).

Ryan Braun, Mike Cameron, Craig Counsell, J.J. Hardy, Corey Hart and Jason Kendall have all faced Wells at least once...no hits and J.J. Hardy was the only one to reach against Wells with a free pass.

Dave Bush only has one win this season but the Brewers are 3-3 in his six starts. Bush has been very good this year and took a no-hitter into the eighth inning three starts ago on the road against the Phillies. The biggest improvement for Bush has been his ability to throw strikes this season. In 33 innings only nine walks with 25 strikeouts. The Brewers are finally getting what they have expected to receive for many years out of the righty.

Bush is 1-0 in his last three starts, all Brewer wins, with a 3.66 ERA and a 0.86 WHIP with 16 strikeouts and 4 walks. Bush held the Diamondbacks to three runs on five hits in seven innings in his last start with seven strikeouts...and no walks.

On April 11, Dave Bush put together one his best starts against the Cubs. He allowed three runs on six hits in 6 1/3 innings with two walks and five strikeouts...the Cubs won the game 6-5 after a two-run homer in the ninth by Alfonso Soriano off of Carlos Villanueva.

Bush is 1-7 in 13 career games, 12 starts, against the Cubs with a 4.80 ERA and a 1.10 WHIP.

  • Milton Bradley - 0-for-3
  • Mike Fontenot - 1-for-6 with a double and 2 walks
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 4-for-9 with 3 doubles, a home run and 4 walks
  • Joey Gathright - 2-for-9
  • Koyie Hill - 1-for-5 with a walk
  • Micah Hoffpauir - 0-for-3
  • Derrek Lee - 4-for-27 with a double
  • Aaron Miles - 0-for-8
  • Aramis Ramirez - 8-for-28 with 3 doubles, 3 home runs and 2 walks
  • Alfonso Soriano - 9-for-28 with 3 doubles, a home run and 2 walks
  • Geovany Soto - 1-for-6 with a walk
  • Ryan Theriot - 5-for-19 with 2 doubles

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Mark

    I'm with ya man! This shit HAPPENS ALL THE F-ING TIME. It's typical Cub's baseball. I HATE Braun and after that walk, I had my mind thinking that that basterd will jack one...and he did. I do the same with the f-ing Cradninals ALL THE TIME. Just like Pujols grand slam on the 1st pitch last week. Tim Lindsecum, lights out. We lose! Any big name pitcher and we can't win. This happens all the time. I can go on and on....Edison Volcez, to Jason Schmidt to Trevor Hoffman, to Mike Lowe to Aaron Harang to Randy Johnson to any decent big name pitcher. We will lose! Makes me sick!

  • Curt in Madison

    How do baseball players get hurt so easily? I know it's different, but I see drunk fat 50 year old plumbers stay healthy after diving for a ball during beer league softball. Second, who in the f*** thought that Heilman is a good fit for the Cubs, or a good pitcher for that matter? I would like to meet Hendry's scouts and kick the s*** out of them. Figure it out, if Heilman couldn't do it with the Mets lineup for 3 years what in the hell makes you think that the Cubs can make him any good? I guess a couple of clutch runs, like any good playoff bound team should score, may make a sh*tty pitcher's job easier. By the way Braun, you're not Jordan, keep your tongue in your mouth, you arrogant bastard. With pitching like Heilman and Gregg, hitting like Miles and tenderness like Ramirez, Lee, Soto and Zambrano, this is going to be a very enjoyable year. For the Cardinals.

  • PeteM

    I really liked Hill he worked fast and games moved along at a good pace.



    I guess Lou or Hendry has noticed all the pitchers have trouble throwing strikes.

  • Boseph Heyden

    The bullpen hasn't shown that it's going to "get locked in". And if they're going to lock into anything, it seems like its the same old crappy pitching they've shown from day 1.



    Other than Guzman's outing tonight (and his previous outings), there's not one reliever outside of Marmol that shows actual promise. They're all, quite frankly, completely replaceable. Even Heilman, this outing aside, has shown he's starting to turn more and more into good ol' "Headcase Heilman" that the Mets grew to hate.



    Worst part: I don't even think a call-up or trade can fix this, cause Larry's still in charge of the pitchers. And as if you needed another reason to dislike Larry's handling of the pitching staff, our old friend Rich Hill is on his second rehab start and has apparently got over whatever the staff did to him. My guess? They took out those "fixes" Larry put in to prevent baserunners from stealing.

  • cubbie12

    i heard 6-8 weeks for ramirez? what a shitty night...

  • Neil

    Link? From a mainstream source. Not speculation.



    I cannot find this anywhere...I am looking.

  • Neil

    Found it...I will post a report.

  • Steven G.

    I know injuries are a hard thing to get over, and obviously hurt a teams chances to compete. Regardless of injuries if the Cubs want to achieve their goal of winning a World Series and competing they need to overcome these injuries and compete day in and day out. If I remember correctly the Cardinals last year were destroyed with injuries, and for a while they were without Pujols. They still found ways to win, and compete, and still found themselves in the thick of the playoff race last year.

  • mark

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! This shit happens ALL THE F-ING time as long as I can remember. Close games, with guys who pitch their heart out and we can't get him a wi? 2 f-ing homers and we lose? We've NEVER EVER ruined a save for Trevor Hoffman. Hell, he's been pitching for 15+ years. And we're going to the WS? Let's start picking up guys who deserve to get the win 1st, then we can talk playoffs. I'm sick of this shit! It's typical

  • Baron

    Including tonights blown save...



    Heilman has converted 9 out of 27 save chances .. that is a 33% success rate..... and he walks the guy batting in front of 2 of the most dangerous NL hitters..... what more can one say about him

  • Aaron

    It does...it also feels like 2004, when they thought they were so good, and fell flat on their faces. but with the injuries, yeah, I get it.

  • PeteM

    Based on the way this season has gone our middle relief has not been able to throw strikes with any umpire.

    Way, way to many lead off walks.

  • GaryLeeT

    This year feels so much like 06.

  • Aaron

    no, the umpire, sadly, is not the worst thing.....our offense is indefensible.



    How many times this year are we going to see 2nd and 3rd, no outs, or 1 out, and come away empty-handed? How many bases loaded situations and less than 2 outs have we just come away with one run....if that even (I'll give you the only 2 I can think of....and actually, I believe one was with 2 outs...but the Theriot and Lee grand slams)...that's it my friends.



    We suck with RISP, and without ARAM, it's going to get a hell of a lot suckier. Miles is a joke. Bradley is a joke. Lee is a joke. Soto is a joke, and yet you will see all 4 of them in the everyday lineup. You cannot possibly put together any type of rally with those guys in the lineup. Period.

  • PeteM

    What a crappy night.

  • Steven G.

    What a waste of a good game by Wells.

  • Jim

    This umpire is horrible

  • Steven G.

    I second that.

  • Aaron

    wow, Miles never ceases to amaze me with his suckiness...he watches so many strike 3's it's unbelievable

  • PeteM

    Miles just watching the game.

  • Steven G.

    I hate Miles.

  • Jim

    I would rather have RC cola than Miles and Heilman

  • GaryLeeT

    Late inning, 4 pitch, lead-off walks never come back to to haunt the Cubs.

  • Baron

    Once again,



    does anybody look at clutch performances????



    Aaron Heilman has had 26 save opportunities in his career. He has blown 17 of those....



    He was a huge cog in the massively choking Mets bullpen the last 2 years....



    After a 4 pitch walk, you leave him in in a 1 run game with Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder coming up?????????

  • Aaron

    we absolutely, positively suck in clutch situations when we HAVE to score runs.....I hate to say it, but we absolutely deserved to lose tonight given how many chances we had, and didn't come away with anything. We've seen this play out so many times this year, and we never came away with runs. We've gotten away with it a few games, but against good teams, we have no chance of getting away with that.



    Losing ARAM, our only clutch hitter, is really going to hurt

  • Matt Haggard

    Sorry for this in advance...



    Fuck you Aaron Miles...



    Gosh..

  • Matt Haggard

    Actually Heilman...



    But hell..All of them..



    Ughh..



    I'm sooo mad.

  • Steven G.

    Lou looks absolutely livid.

  • Jim

    I hate our Bullpen

  • PeteM

    Amen

  • Steven G.

    Wow....just....wow...

  • Aaron

    wow, that bases loaded less than 2 out, no runs is coming back to haunt us....as it should

  • PeteM

    Throw F in strikes!

  • Matt Haggard

    Credit to the Brewers fans. They are straight jakked up.

  • PeteM

    Why in the world would you use Soto as a Pinch hitter?

  • PeteM

    Why in the world would you use Soto as a pinch hitter.

  • Matt Haggard

    How is the McD's Iced Mocha, BTW?

  • GaryLeeT

    I know this question is long after the fact, but why Neifi Miles brought into the game instead Scales? Was it his gold glove defense, stratospheric batting average, or the threat of his long ball?

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Soto looks horrible! try loosing some weight lunchbox!

  • Steven G.

    Hey fellas, just got home from work. Turned it on just in time to see Soto ground out with the bases loaded. Any other word on the degree of dislocation on Rami's shoulder?

  • Neil

    Theriot changed that inning. Gotta play smarter ball than that.

  • Aaron

    well that sucks

  • Neil

    By the way, the last comment was by Captain Obvious



    Why didn't Theriot take a pitch?

  • Neil

    Theriot's job is to get the ball out of the infield.

  • Aaron

    make 'em pay Theriot

  • Neil

    Need some runs here. Time to tack on.

  • BUBrave

    Great opportunity here!!!

  • Aaron

    92 mph slider.....Guzman, if he can put it all together, is absolutely lights out on the mound.



    I really hope he can move to the rotation next year for us, but let's see if he can master the pen. He's got AWESOME stuff

  • Larry

    I couldn't agree more. I have always really liked Guzman's stuff. It is nice to see him finally healthy enough to show what he can do.

  • Aaron

    I do not like Bradley...at all....I hated the signing, and hate his play thus far....



    HOWEVER, the umpires are really unfair to this guy. I can understand fist pumping umpires on called 3rd strikes, and as a former pitcher, I loved it. But that umpire went above and beyond to piss Bradley off, and it was like he was trying to get his attention. I'm just glad Bradley didn't see him almost do a 180, because he probably would've punched him in the face...Hell, I wanted to punch the umpire in the face for his reaction

  • BUBrave

    Apparently MLB signed this umpire to a large contract and he feels plenty of viewers are tuned in to watch him be "THE GUY"

  • Jim

    Aaron I have gone through 2 myself. Same shoulder. First time it was a 2nd degree and I was out a month. Second time was a 1st and was only out a week. But I played hockey not baseball. Worked on strengthening the shoulder and never had a problem after that. Mine was also the left.

  • BUBrave

    Umpire isn't making too many friends. Looked like the 3-0 pitch that was called a strike was just as bad.

  • Matt Haggard

    Wait?



    Disloacated or separated?



    Is there a difference?



    Whats worse?

  • Neil

    The reports I heard were dislocated. I do not know which is worse...sorry.



    Aaron, I cannot remember.

  • Aaron

    bad news. Great news for Agustin, Bobby Scales, and Randy Wells....horrible news for Cub Nation and ARAM....



    Scales lives to see another day with the ARAM injury and Freel is immediately on the roster. I bet Hendry and his staff are waiting to see if Jake Fox is legit....if he is, then he might get the call at Scales' expense. Let's hope it's mild separation.





    Neil, if I'm not mistaken, someone on here has a wife that's a physical therapist or something, and knows about injuries. Do you remember who? If so, can that person shed light on this type of injury. Will it always be a problem? Timetable for return?

  • Matt Haggard

    Dude jumped into third and nearly fell over himself tagging up from third. Amazing, haha.



    Good for Bobby, haha

  • Neil

    Great belly-flop! I love the passion and hustle.

  • PeteM

    Nows thats hustling by Scales

  • Jim

    Neil what degree of seperation? 1st, 2nd, 3rd. If it is a 1st degree seperation hes looking at about 2-3 weeks. If it is a third there could be damage to the ligaments that hold the shoulder together. That usually requires surgery to repair. That is more like 8 weeks.

  • Neil

    No updates yet.

  • Neil

    A triple for the Veteran-Rookie!!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Bobby Effin' Scales!

  • BUBrave

    In the words of Dewey Kalmer: "How many times do you see a guy make a great play in the field, come up to bat the next inning, and hit a home run."

  • Matt Haggard

    Call Jim Edmonds...



    We need the pop..



    Edmonds splits center with Kosuke who splits right with Milton.



    Freel has third and Fonty/Miles can stay at 2nd.



    Everything else stays constant.

  • agustin rexach

    Thanks for all the kind words!! Hilarious compilations

    Of names. Lol. Aaron, I gave the name Ivy a ride but in

    All seriousness my wife is the boss so it was a no go. LOL.

    However, she calls me TinTin so She cannot stop me from calling her Ivy as the nickname! Another great name Lady Geovana!! Thanks to all.



    What happened to Rami?

  • Neil

    Excellent play by Theriot

  • PeteM

    Is it OK for a grown man to cry?

  • PeteM

    Nice Play

  • Neil

    WGN Radio is reporting a dislocated left shoulder for Ramirez

  • Larry

    Neil,



    Any idea how severe the dislocation is? A complete separation could cost him more time than Manny will be missing.



    Wells has looked pretty good, especially considering he is making his debut.

  • Neil

    No more updates yet. Xrays are scheduled.

  • BUBrave

    Maybe some female fertility drugs could help speed the recovery.

  • Larry

    I'm sure Manny can drop them in the mail right away.

  • Matt Haggard

    I remember Jeter had one in 2003. They couldn't put it back in place and he missed 6 weeks.



    Could be better...Could be worse..

  • Matt Haggard

    For what its worth, the Cubs always seem to win these games that a star gets hurt.



    Irony.

  • Matt Haggard

    I know this is no time to say it.



    But if the Indians continue to fall in the standings, could we see another DeRosa trade back to the Cubs?



    He's a free agent at the end of the year as we all know..

  • BUBrave

    Maybe we can get a deal for DeRo like we had for Freel. We'll pay the rest of Miles' contract and they can pay for the rest of DeRo's contract.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    THE GAME!

  • BUBrave

    I love how Milton pimps his home runs.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Word !

  • Neil

    Milton with a big hit. Time for players like Bradley to step it up.

  • Larry

    If A-Ram is out for any period of time, we are going to need Bradley to start hitting or we could be in trouble.

  • Matt Haggard

    Now is a great time for the Game to get hot..

  • PeteM

    good inning for wells

  • Larry

    Fukudome is really starting to look pretty good in center. He has made some really nice catches the last few days.

  • Neil

    Excellent catch by Kosuke

  • Matt Haggard

    My heart dropped right into my stomach.



    Whoever hears news first, drop it.

  • Matt Haggard

    Two and a half men just missed shooting my night straight to hell..

  • Neil

    I think it was his shoulder

  • Neil

    This is not good. No way to spin this.

  • Matt Haggard

    The wrist maybe?

  • Neil

    It's his shoulder. Ramirez is hurt bad

  • Matt Haggard

    God damnit..

  • Neil

    Excellent concentration by Bradley



    OH NO!!!!

  • Neil

    Soriano has to quit swinging at the breaking stuff. That is all he is getting right now...not going to see any of his fastballs until he quits swinging.

  • BUBrave

    Is that Molly Hatchet pitching for the cubs? Lots of "Flirtin with Disaster"

  • Neil

    Great catch by Hoffpauir!



    Wells is living dangerously...lots of 3-2 counts

  • Matt Haggard

    Homemade jam and Hoff gets out of it!



    Haha!

  • Jim

    Does anyone know if Wells can hit. He was a converted cather in 03.

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