Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Cardinals - 04/18/09

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Game Eleven: Cubs (6-4) vs. Cardinals (8-4)
Game Time - 2:40pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: FOX Saturday Baseball - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 184
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Ryan Dempster (1-0, 4.50/1.50) vs. Kyle Lohse (2-0, 1.13/0.56)

Updated - 11:45am C.T. - Milton Bradley Suspended for Two Games

With the first two games not being short on excitement, this afternoon's game figures to be more of the same. Milton Bradley will likely be out of the starting lineup for the fifth straight game...and the Cubs have yet to receive word on his possible suspension.

Geovany Soto had his best game of the year at the plate on Friday. The Cubs need for him to continue to improve and make up for his absence due to the WBC. Look for Aaron Miles to be in the starting lineup today, he has great career numbers against Kyle Lohse...as do several of the Cubs starters. Lohse has been very good in his first two starts against the Pirates and the Astros and is coming off one of the best games of his career.

Ryan Dempster will make his first start of the season today at Wrigley Field...where he was lights out last year. Dempster posted a 14-3 record in 20 home starts in 2008 with a 2.86 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP. After a horrible start by Carlos Zambrano on Friday afternoon, Lou Piniella would like to see Dempster put together a quality start (three earned runs or less in six innings)...something the Cubs starters have failed to do since last Monday.

Ryan Dempster struggled through six innings of work last Sunday night in Milwaukee. Reed Johnson took a grand slam away from Prince Fielder, which helped Dempster from allowing at least two more earned runs. Dempster allowed four earned on six hits with three walks and six strikeouts. The free passes are running up Dempster's pitch count and he must cut down on the walks. In two starts, 12 innings, he has surrendered six walks with only 11 strikeouts...less than a 2:1 ratio and a recipe for a long, losing season.

Dempster was 2-0 in three games against the Cardinals last season with a 2.89 ERA and a 1.29 WHIP...for his career, 6-5 in 11 starts, 37 games (15 saves), with a 4.65 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP. The Cardinals hit well against Dempster but have trouble scoring runs.

  • Rick Ankiel - 1-for-9
  • Chris Duncan - 2-for-4 with a triple
  • Khalil Greene - 1-for-10
  • Kyle Lohse - 0-for-2
  • Ryan Ludwick - 5-for-10 with a double and a home run
  • Yadier Molina - 4-for-12 with 2 walks
  • Albert Pujols - 8-for-30 with a double, 2 home runs and 3 walks
  • Skip Schumaker - 7-for-18 with a double

The Cubs will face another one of Dave Duncan's reclamation projects in Kyle Lohse. After signing just a few weeks before the beginning of the 2008 season, Lohse has finally pitched to all of expectations...he is 17-6 (35 starts) in a Cardinals uniform.

The Cubs drafted Kyle Lohse in the 29th round back in 1996...and traded him to the Twins on May 21, 1999 along with Jay Ryan for Scott Downs and Rick Aguilera.

Lohse is coming off a complete game shutout of the Houston Astros last Sunday. Lohse gave up only three hits and did not walk a batter. Lohse struck out four and in 16 innings this season he has issued just one walk.

The Cubs hit Lohse pretty well a year ago and beat him once in three starts. Lohse was 0-1 against the Cubs in 2008 with a 6.38 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP...and the Cubs hit a robust .303 against him. The key with Lohse is waiting him out, he has good command but will make mistakes. A lot of early swings and misses will allow Lohse to settle in.

Lohse is 1-2 in seven career starts against the Cubs with a 5.15 ERA and a 1.53 WHIP...but at Wrigley, 1-0 in 2 starts with a 1.00 ERA and a 0.89 WHIP.

  • Milton Bradley - 3-for-12 with a double and 2 walks
  • Ryan Dempster - 1-for-2
  • Mike Fontenot - 1-for-6 with a home run and 4 walks
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 2-for-7 with a double
  • Reed Johnson - 3-for-9 with a walk
  • Derrek Lee - 6-for-15 with 2 doubles and a walk
  • Aaron Miles - 5-for-10 with a double
  • Aramis Ramirez - 7-for-11 with 3 doubles and a home run
  • Alfonso Soriano - 13-for-35 with 3 doubles and 2 home runs
  • Geovany Soto - 3-for-8 with a double and a walk
  • Ryan Theriot - 9-for-17 with a triple

Update - According to reports from XM Radio and the Chicago Tribune, Milton Bradley has been suspended for two games and fined. Bradley will appeal and is available for today's game.

From the Tribune:

"Cubs' outfielder Milton Bradley was suspended for two games and fined an undisclosed amount for arguing a called third strike and being ejected from Thursday's game against the Cardinals.

Bradley plans to appeal the suspension and is available to play Saturday against the Cardinals, though he is not in the lineup."

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Duas

    These wins have been reminiscent of last year's team...remember when we used to depend on the late inning heroics? We were almost sure that we were going to find a way to get it done against their bullpen.



    While its great to have comeback wins, it points to the same problem as last year's playoffs...we can't get much done against the starters; we rely on weak bullpens. And playoff teams rarely have weak bullpens!

  • GaryLeeT

    That's 2 games in a row, against the 2nd best team in the Central, where it felt like they were going to lose, but found a way to win. What a great step towards the "it's our turn to be the champs" mentality that you like to see building within the team.

  • 09shine

    great win.. you always know there's a possibility to win it with soriano and ramirez up



    big props go to the bullpen who completely owned today (with the exception of our garbage, can't-throw-a-strike, mullet-wearing-hillbilly, lefty)

  • SuzyS

    Pray tell...whom do you mean???? (Major Sarcasm!

  • Neil

    Don't hold back, how do you really feel about Neal Cotts?

  • SuzyS

    Maybe the White Sox would like him back...cheap!!!

  • rswartz

    Mr. Clutch!!!!

    When will you be our three hole hitter?

  • Neil

    First career win for Angel Guzman

  • SuzyS

    Many more to come I hope!!!

  • SuzyS

    OUT OF HERE!!!! ARAM CUBS WIN!!!!

  • Neil

    I WILL TAKE A LOT OF SALT WITH MY CROW...



    ARAMIS TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Steven G.

    ARAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rswartz

    lets end this now before pujols gets another at bat

  • Neil

    Not looking good but my thoughts exactly

  • Steven G.

    I wish I could be watching it..but I'm blacked out. Stupid MLB.tv

  • 09shine

    this has really been a great game to watch

  • Eric

    I would've rather seen Koyie or even Z bat instead of Gathright.



    Leaving the door open here

  • Duas

    Gathright's 3rd at-bat this season..difficult to stay sharp

  • Neil

    Surprising they are pitching to Miles

  • cubbie12

    chris duncan is an idiot hes only in the majors cuz of his dad

  • Neil

    7 walks by Cubs pitching today.



    SORIANO WITH A DOUBLE PLAY!!!!

  • SuzyS

    Hang on to your seats boys...here we go XTRA XTRA XTRA!!!!

  • Neil

    I tip my cap to Kevin Gregg...excellent job.

  • Steven G.

    Wow..Gregg.

  • Neil

    Okay, I am totally confused now.

    Why is Gregg out there?

  • Duas

    same here...but he did do a good and quick job

  • Steven G.

    I'm watching this on Gameday...I see Gregg pitching in the 9th!?

  • Duas

    Come on Miles...one more time

  • Boseph Heyden

    So far, this has been horrible bullpen management this season. Marmol's more than established he's a better closer than Gregg and here he is coming in in the 7th. And because Cotts burned Lou, they stick with Marmol in the 8th. And now Gregg's out of the 8th, but they have no one left to do the 9th (well anyways, cause Gregg isn't a 2 inning guy). Vizcaino and Guzman would've both served a purpose in the 7th, you could've used a fresh Marmol in the 8th, and gone with Gregg in the 9th, or swapped Marmol and Gregg, or whatever. But there's no two inning guys in this pen, there never will be, and the faster Lou realizes this, the better off we'll be.

  • Eric

    I guess Gregg IS a 2 inning guy, but we don't want to use him like this very often

  • Neil

    Excellent points.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Maybe Guzman in the 9th?

  • Neil

    That's what I'm thinking...but with Pujols due up second, might want to use the veteran Heilman.

  • Duas

    wow...a very dominant performance by Gregg



    good job of bailing out Marmol

  • Neil

    Great job by Gregg.



    Guzman in the 9th? Or Heilman?

  • Steven G.

    I'm going out on a limb here but I suppose since Gregg is out there now..? Heilman is coming in the 9th?

  • GaryLeeT

    The Cubs still get 2 innings to have their way with that God awfull Cards pen too.

  • Duas

    I thought Lou was never going to bring Gregg in the 8th inning

  • Neil

    If he can get out of the 8th, Gregg will not be in the 9th.

  • Steven G.

    Oh boy..here we go...

  • Neil

    Get Marmol out, 23 pitches. He could still be used Sunday



    Too many stressful pitches in the 7th.

  • Dorasaga

    I was using some graph tool online to see if Marmol did anything different 7th and 8th...



    12-8 then 13-9, good strike ratio. Really not much different in term of finding his first pitch in and out the zone...



    But, his release point changed from the 7th to 8th inning--a little towards outside. His arm was probably a little late: probably releasing the ball too late, probably overthrowing as he leads in the count (like how he did during WBC).



    In any event, the effect was a little less vertical movement in his sliders, by 2-3 inches.



    And that was probably enough for the batters to figure him out after he threw so many of them...



    Granted, small sample size, but really amusing stuffs...

  • Dorasaga

    Correction: Marmol's fastballs were moving less in the 8th than in the 7th... anyway... Theriot had some rockets today... take us to the "promise land?" quote Mark Grace.

  • Dorasaga

    Senior Nasty... I was telling some non-Cubbie friends that we got a few sleepers down our farm. Someone like Caridad (he knows how big league works), or maybe Chen (who's been climbing the ladder swifter than I thought he could ever), someone who can come to Chicago and be our next Marmol.



    After watched him in person and on tv, day in, day out... I don't know now. He's too good.



    Maybe I'll take it back. How can anyone REPLACE NOW!



    Keep him in the 7th or 8th, Lou. He'll not get that 10 million resign for year 5, but you know what, he'll save some bad baseball into a beautiful, "Let's play two" game!

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    Cotts has no business being on this team.

    He sucks against whoever is batting and needs to go.

  • 09shine

    how i miss scott eyre.. *sigh*

  • SuzyS

    as of yesterday scotty was o.oo era with the phillies...I really thought that was a mistake at the time.

  • SuzyS

    Good job Marmol!!!...But who closes? Any guesses anyone?

  • Neil

    It's going to be Gregg

  • SuzyS

    we better score another four

  • Neil

    Now I have no idea, right now just get out of the inning.

  • Bryan

    DeRosa just banged out a 3 run homer. 20-2 Tribe. Nice!

  • Neil

    Marmol the Magnificent!!!

  • Eric

    Cotts owes Marmol a steak dinner with all the fixins tonight!



    The scary thing is we'll probably see Gregg in the 9th.

  • 09shine

    i wouldn't mind walking ludwick?

  • 09shine

    getting the foul out works too



    great inning.. marmol understands what it means to be a major leaguer

  • SuzyS

    Why does Lou keep calling on Cotts? Lefty or not, he can't find the plate.

  • Dorasaga

    Seriously, I was literally saying "F*** You" as Lou walks out.



    I'm sure our Iowa arms can easily replace Cotts at this moment of his career.

  • MikeT

    There is no reason that Cotts should ever pitch for the Cubs ever again, if you can't throw one strike then you shouldn't be in the bigs

  • Neil

    Jason Waddell should be getting the call tonight.

  • Eric

    I hate Cotts. Whoever it was that said an all right-handed bullpen would be better than a bullpen with Cotts in it is right.

  • 09shine

    cotts is trash and should be treated like trash

  • Neil

    That should be the last time Cotts pitches in a Cubs' uniform. Eight straight balls....

  • Bryce H.

    Great 2 out hitting for the cubs. Its good to have that clutch to start the year.

  • Eric

    gotta love Miles handing it to his old team!



    "I can see for Miles and Miles and Miles and..."

  • Bryce H.

    Miles turn to make cardinals pay for letting him go!

  • Neil

    Nice, quick shutdown inning for Dempster

  • Dorasaga

    Indeed. I've always wondered what makes Demp work so well?



    He's not the perfect control guy. He'll give away hits and walks, and quite a bunch of them. Now, they not always convert into runs, at least not a whole lot.



    He's been amusing me since 2007. I gotta say I'm more convinced now of baseball's complexity ...



    ***



    And I gotta love DLee's clutch, as always~!

  • GaryLeeT

    Wow, a clutch 2 out 2 RBI hit from Lee? I am fainting.

    The game seemed so lopsided. Then, all of the sudden, it's tied in the 5th and Lohse is almost at 100 pitches.

  • SuzyS

    Nice hit by Lee...it would be cool to see him regain his prewrist form...although I don't expect it.

  • Neil

    Great hit by DLee...8-for-18 on the homestand

  • Eric

    Nice triple by Riot!



    Side Note: That 14 run inning came to an end when one Mr. Mark DeRosa struck out.

  • SuzyS

    But he did hit a 2 rbi double in the middle of it Eric.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park)

    A few thoughts...



    * Soto looks lost at the plate.



    * Our starting pitching looks great for the first 2 innings, then come the walks.



    * Our BLOWpen isn't much better.

  • SuzyS

    Mark my words...LaRussa is almost at the end of his run with the Cards...He doesn't really like or get alomg with the new management. Duncan might be available next season...but if Lou is still here...I don't think he'll part with Rothchild.

  • Neil

    Suzy, rumors are when LaRussa leaves St. Louis he will go to the Reds and re-join Walt Jocketty.

  • SuzyS

    That or back to Oakland.

  • Steven G.

    Our offense needs to wake the hell up.

  • Duas

    have I mentioned I hate the Cards?

  • Neil

    I wonder how many millions it would take to get Dave Duncan to leave LaRussa.

  • Duas

    the guy can work miracles..

  • Steven Guarch

    Lohse Giveth...and Dempster Taketh Away...unbelievable.

  • Neil

    Greene's home run on a 1-2 pitch. Lack of focus.

  • Neil

    The Indians scored 14 runs in the 2nd inning against the Yankees...all in one inning.

  • SuzyS

    I like that!!! Anytime the Yankees look bad...I'm a happy camper and Cleveland was off to such a bad start!!! Go DeRo...Go Woody!!!

  • Neil

    Big 2-out double by Kosuke. At least Miles, Soriano and Kosuke made Lohse work this inning.

  • Neil

    KOSUKE!!!!

  • Neil

    Dempster threw 37 pitches in the third inning.



    He could have made Lohse throw at least two pitches...ground out to 2nd on the first pitch?!?!?!?

  • Duas

    jinx!

  • Duas

    Dempster grounds out on the first pitch? He should just stand there and let him strike him out, which will cause him to throw at least 3 pitches...

  • Steven Guarch

    I understand that the Cubs can very well come back from this deficit..but how many times can you play a game when your down by multiple runs and expect to come back and win? I mean come on...the Cubs need to start striking first..and early.

  • Scott

    Unbelievable. I CANNOT understand this pitching staff.



    I hate to say it, but it may be time for Mount Lou to erupt. Not necessarily a full-blown meltdown, but he needs to kick a few guys in the ass.

  • Steven Guarch

    Ok, this is borderline frikkin ridiculous....

  • Neil

    Two of the three have already scored...Pujols at third.



    Make that four walks in the inning.

  • Duas

    Ludwick is really hot right now...when are they going to figure that out?

  • Duas

    Here we go again with the walks

  • Neil

    Three walks in the third, already 51 pitches

  • Neil

    Concentration issues for Dempster. Walking the seventh and eighth place hitters to start the inning.

  • 09shine

    this umpiring crew is a joke.. every one of them has the same warped idea of a strike zone

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