I'll say it: Ron Santo's not in the HOF because he's a bit of a prick. Some Chicago Writers may like him enough to vote him in, and some outside writers may not know his personality enough to write him in, but the one reason he isn't being voted in by the veterans or sports writers is because he was a bit too pompous in his day and, if you catch the right part of his day, he's still a bit too high and mighty now.

i am probably in the minority as a Cubs fan. I don't know if Santo deserves Hall of Fame or not. Thats not the issue with me. But what bothers me and turns me off about Santo is.. It seems like he is soliciting himself. I get the feeling like he feels it is owed to him maybe partly so because of his personal circumstances. I really appreciated the humbleness of Ryne Sandberg when he became a hall of famer. Maybe its easier for Ryno to be that way cause he knew he was a lock.

Does any Cub fan agree with me?

fyi i love listening to Santo. Great entertainment. When he got into it with that Millwaukee fan that was tops!!

Rich, If I had a vote...I would vote for Santo...and I am a fan of his...but not blindly.

That being said...sometimes it is tiresome to here him promote himself.

Ryno was a shoo-in and played during an era when the Cub teams were better.

I have a brother that has been devastated

by diabetes...lost a leg,gone blind etc

It scares the shit out of you because everything seems OK and boom something has to be cut off.

I'm sure part of Ron's psyche includes

facing his imminent mortality that hangs over him daily...and an urgency to see it done while he is alive.

So I give him a pass as a self-promoter...even though it's not attractive.

Mike Schmidt (Phillies) is considered the top 3rd baseman in the hall. Santo's

numbers are comparable except HR.

If the Cubs would have been winners he would have been in.

More than Santo tho...how can you keep

Fergie Jenkins out...5 20+ win seasons

on horrible Cubs teams.

rich,

I know you either can make a case against Santo or a case pro him for a place in the Hall.

I can name one case pro-Santo. He was issuing "walks" that led the league for a decade (some seasons he was top one or two, and those who were above him got into the Hall). If we consider the ability of finding free passes to get on-base as a superb baseball talent, then we hope the Vets consider what Santo's worth.

A case against him, though: Santo did not demonstrate the big power a Hall of Fame third baseman should have. Granted, his glove as a third baseman was finesse. But the baseball insiders seem to have various opinions about third base defense.

Anyway, as his status now, Santo is a borderline Hall of Famer. And if only he was born a second baseman, like one of our minor league coaches, Santo would have a better luck...

OK....so the day started bright and early going to the San Diego Airport for a 6:45 flight.....got there...boarded the plane....and whooopssss.....weather issues in Chicago, a storm is lingering and it's below freezing.....so planes are grounded at OHARE. So we sat on the plane for about an hour and a half before getting clearence for Chicago. I had an hour and a half lay over in Chi-Town so hopefully that flight was delayed as well so I make the connection.

Got to Chicago.....SNOW all over.....loved seeing it again, Was almost 20 years to the day since I've been back. It was rainy and cold and very cloudy with poor visibility.

It turned out the flight to Kansas was delayed so I got on with no problem. We arrived in Kansas and ..... it's freaking 69 degrees!!! What???? There's a strom that should hit tomorrow....we'll see......

I go see Abby for a few hours tomorrow.....I can't wait!!!!

Our hearts and prayers are with you.

20 years of sun?...must be tough...how can you stay out of the bleachers that long?

Come to think of it...if Sammy shows anything in the WBC he could be a Padre just like Prior was last year and hopes to be again this year. For Forty million they could field quite an ex-Cubs team.

Rotation...Prior/Clement (just signed a minor deal with Toronto)/Trachsel/Rusch/

Lieber/Jerome Williams.

In the outfield...Sammy, I think Tuffy Rhodes is looking for a Job...and they could trade for Jacques Jones or the Dodgers are looking to get rid of Juan Pierre (But they would have to pay his freight.

Somebody else pick up the infield for me...I do think Augie Ojeda will be looking for a comeback from his suspension....!!!

How about Kevin Orie at 3B.....Augie Ojeda at SS.....Bobby Hill at 2B and Hee Seop Choi at 1B.

Thanks Joe.

Thank You very much!

Actually I've never seen a game from the bleachers....thats on my things to do list! I went to more Sox games as a child (I left when I was 16) because the Cubs didnt have night games then.

I do miss Chicago very much and have entertained the idea of returning. The weather is great in San Diego....but the people (in general) are so fake it's not funny. Certainly not like midwesterners.

From what I've seen, Sosa's actually been working out and getting leaner over the past year or so. I have a feeling that the WBC will be where we see what he's still got and, after that, someone will sign him.

And this is where it gets fun: Sosa will most likely NOT get a big league contract. So the thing that is going to determine whether he's a first ballot HOFer or will wait like MacSteroids is going to be whether or not he has the humility to accept a minor league deal that will, most likely, be an automatic trip to the majors.

And I really hope he takes one: we could always use another Cub in the HOF.

Yes, we can always use another Cub in the Hall of fame...Ron Santo/Andre Dawson/Fergie Jenkins...all work for me.

If the word humility is ever associated

with Sammy...I would bet that the Cubs had already beaten the White Sox for five World Series Titles in a row.

I don't think Sammy even knows what true humility is...but if he ever showed it...I would eat my words and wear a Yankees Jersey/Cap for a year...and in sports...there is no team I hate worse!!!

Hell, all he has to do is come out from under his shell, ald let players and fans kick him in the ass, kind of like a public shaming, and then we could all go on with life as a Cub fan.If I kicked him in the ass a few times, I'd forgive him!

That's what I kept saying about Bartman. If he's just show his face, admit we was wrong to a reporter, and to make money for charity, have poeple pay (who knows $10, $20) and let that person kick him in the ass. Hell, we'd make millions. It could go towards medical research. OR MAYBE A LEFT HANDED BAT! Just think....

I'm glad he is still a legend in his own

head. He gave us some really exciting moments AND some reasons to get pissed off....but I still don't think he gets it.