Talkin' Cubs NLDS Live - Cubs vs. Dodgers - 10/04/08

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Game Three - National League Division Series
Best of Five - Dodgers Lead Series, 2-0
Game Time - 9:00pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: TBS - Radio: 720 WGN, ESPN Radio, XM Radio Channel 184, 189
Location - Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles

Rich Harden (10-2, 2.07/1.06 - 5-1, 1.77/0.97) vs. Hiroki Kuroda (9-10, 3.73/1.22)

Tonight is simple....win and there is a Game Four on Sunday night, lose and it's a long winter for the Chicago Cubs after the best summer of ball on the North Side of Chicago in generations.

Lou Piniella addressed his team following the game two loss on Thursday night. Reports suggested on Friday that Piniella gave a couple of his players 'pep talks' in the clubhouse in both Spanish and English. Piniella denied yelling at his players and Gordon Wittenmyer, Cubs' beat writer for the Sun-Times, told Dave Kaplan that several people he spoke with indicated the reports of Piniella yelling or dressing down his players were inaccurate but the 'pep talk' did include several 'spicy words', as Wittenmyer described....in both languages.

Piniella told the mainstream media on Friday that the Cubs put together the worst performances in back-to-back games in his two years as the Cubs' manager. He added he felt it was good the team hit the road when they did despite all of the support the fans at Wrigley have given the team this season. The Cubs are not playing ball right now and maybe being on the road down 0-2 will allow the team to relax and just play....after all, what do they have to lose?

Hearing Piniella's press conference, in the calm, cool demeanor in which it was delivered on Friday, brought up the memory of the last 'pep talk' the Cubs manager delivered in St. Louis on September 9th. Piniella told his team, through the media....

"We can talk about having fun. We can talk about relaxing. You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you got to do. Period. Period. That's all I got to say."

"Podemos hablar del divertir. Podemos hablar de relajante. Usted tiene que conseguir sus camisas malditas enrollaron y salen y patean alguien asno. Eso es lo que usted consiguio para hacer. Periodo. Periodo. Eso es todo consegui para decir."

Piniella added on Friday that Mark DeRosa will start the game in right field tonight with Mike Fontenot at 2nd base....Kosuke Fukudome has been benched and will likely only be used as a late inning defensive replacement for the remainder of the season. Ryan Dempster will be available out of the pen for the Cubs tonight and in game four. If the Cubs can force a game 5 at Wrigley, Carlos Zambrano will likely get the start according to a report from the Tribune.

It is time to play ball and just win a game....

Rich Harden has been both dominating and solid in a Cubs' uniform. Harden made 12 starts in the last 3 months of the season and put up great numbers. Harden struck out 89 batters and walked 30 in 71 innings while giving up only 39 hits. As difficult as tonight could be for the Cubs' offense, Lou Piniella has the right pitcher starting the game. Harden has the 'stuff' to keep the Dodgers off the board while the offense tries to get out of their collective slump....

Harden was 1-0 in 3 starts in September with a 2.65 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP while holding opponents to a .136 batting average.

Tonight will be Rich Harden's first career appearance against the Dodgers and his fourth career post-season start (1-2 in 3 games with a 6.43 ERA and a 2.00 WHIP in 2 games in 2003 and 1 game in 2006).

  • Angel Berroa - 2-for-9 with a double
  • Casey Blake - 0-for-8 with 2 walks
  • Nomar Garciaparra - 0-for-4
  • Manny Ramirez - 3-for-11 with 3 home runs and 3 walks

Rich Harden did confirm the report on Friday that he received a cortisone shot in his shoulder last month.

The Cubs will get their third look of the season at Hiroki Kuroda. 'Mr. Complete Game' as he was known in Japan had a solid first season in the Majors and one of his two complete game shutouts came against the Cubs. Kuroda has been very good at Dodger Stadium this season, 6-2 in 14 starts with 2 complete game shutouts, a 3.78 ERA and a 1.34 WHIP.

Kuroda was 2-0 in 5 starts in September with a 2.96 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP but opponents hit .294 against him. Kuroda struggled in July but appeared to get a 'second wind' in August and September despite posting a 4-4 record in the second half with a 4.14 ERA and 1.24 WHIP. Kuroda did spend time on the DL in late June, but teams hit 31 points higher (.240/.271).

Kuroda is 1-1 in 2 starts against the Cubs this season with a 0.59 ERA and a 0.91 WHIP. The Cubs hit .204 against him. Kuroda lost to the Cubs at Wrigley Field on May 27th, 3-1. He allowed 2 runs, 1 earned, on 7 hits in 6 1/3 innings with 3 walks and 3 strikeouts. He beat the Cubs on June 6th at Dodger Stadium, 3-0. Kuroda tossed a complete game shutout and allowed 4 hits without a walk with 11 strikeouts.

  • Henry Blanco - 0-for-3
  • Ronny Cedeno - 1-for-3 with a walk
  • Mark DeRosa - 0-for-3
  • Jim Edmonds - 1-for-6
  • Mike Fontenot - 0-for-4
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 1-for-5 with a walk
  • Derrek Lee - 2-for-6
  • Aramis Ramirez - 1-for-6
  • Alfonso Soriano - 3-for-7 with a walk
  • Geovany Soto - 1-for-3 with a double
  • Ryan Theriot - 1-for-5

How much will Lou Piniella tinker with his lineup tonight?

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • agustin rexach

    No words can describe the pain, I can only settle for sharing it with you guys that know what I'm talking about...To the CCO Crew/Neil-Abby-Thomas-Brian-Shaun,you have a special thing going on in here. Before I started posting here I thought a couple of years ago I could have not imagined how important this would be. It's like cofee...I have it every day and I would like to thank you for that. Our Cubs suck, no doubt but hey...atleast the 100 year curse is over!

    Jim[tp]

    JimK

    Gramps

    Nick

    Matt

    Jeff

    elliot

    Aaron

    Joe S.

    Dorssaga

    Jeff Az

    Jason B

    Trevor

    baron

    Jim

    Jimbo

    dude and all the other guys that check in this thing...

    you are all family and it was a great ride. The end sucked but wtf? This are our shitty Cubs and there will be next year.



    Count me in for that CCO meeting, I'll be there with my wife crazy to meet you all!!!I,m drunk!@#

  • Neil

    I will say a little more later today after I have had some sleep, but I really appreciate everyone's kind words....it really means a lot to me.



    I spent a litte time on the phone tonight with Brian and Shaun as we are all still in shock, like I would imagine all of you are.



    I have said this before and I will say it again, you guys fuel this site and without all of you, as well as the support of my wife, the CCO would not be what it has become.



    I think the best word to describe how I feel right now is 'shocked', not that they lost, but how badly they played. The team that played the Dodgers did not look like the team that took the field for 161 games.



    Finally, to answer Jeff's question, pitchers and cathers should report in 133 days....Jim Hendry has a lot of work to do.



    Thanks again to everyone.

  • JimK

    Soriano would be change 1, if it can be done. He doesn't work well in the one hole, and he doesn't produce elsewhere. As mentioned, maybe there's a deal to be done with the Mets. If he has to stay, he must wear looser pants. They work for Manny.



    I too like the idea of a meeting of the Faithful. One possibility would be spring training. We like the Dobson Ranch Inn in Mesa, which has a long Cubs tradition, has cost about $145 a night for a pleasant room. It offers a free breakfast buffet has a large pool and a courtyard area that accomodates informal gatherings and provides top seating for Cubs games (Field boxes within 10 rows of the field near the Cubs dugout at $22 per, e.g. All of the minor leaguers play on four adjoining diamonds at Fitch Park, a few blocks from HoHoKam and admission there is free.



    I'm not shilling for the place (and there are newer nicer hotels), but my friend Mary McCaffrey, the special events coordinator, would likely make some nice discounts available with the booking of several rooms. The drawback might be that the place caters more to people who stay longer than (say) one or two nights.

  • Matt Haggard

    I want to give props to Neil, too.



    The CCO is the best out there. All of you are the best. There's no better Cub fans out there.



    I have some thoughts on 2009, but I'll save it for the offseason.



    Again, you guys are the best and have a good night. 2008 was really fun.



    Go Cubs Go!

  • Dorasaga

    Duas,



    Don't want to sound different, but I'm the guy who've been trying to "hope" that GM Hendry does "better."



    We have no choice. He's not gonna be replaced anytime.



    Before the season started, I said it out loud here, for various reasons, I was hoping for Kuroda as our No.3, instead of Fuk as our No.1.



    I wanted a "Plan B," instead of "waiting" for Fuk, like Hendry said.



    I was hoping for trades, not "internal options."



    All in all, I found Hendry less consistent than some GMs. He's still doing O.K., but with all respect to his earnesty, he's not doing great.



    For the Next season? We need to figure out our off-season, Now.

  • Jeff in Az

    How many days until spring training neil?

  • Jeff in Az

    Thanks all for another great season. I love you all like brothers and sisters, and I cant wait till next year. As for a CCO get together, I am there baby, Lets do it. Go Cubs, get em in 09!

  • elliot

    Congrats to the Dodgers. They played some damn solid baseball this series. Anybody else relieved this series is over? The Cubs looked so pathetic out there, I was waiting for Soriano to strike out so he could put me out of my misery.



    Baron, I don't think Manny Ramirez is the answer. Just like getting Soriano wasn't the answer. I was strongly opposed to getting Soriano back then, and I will not support getting manny now. We need to dump the entire lineup and build again from scratch. Build an offense around Teixeria. Bolster the bullpen. I hate to say it, but I would be surprised if the Cubs still dominate the NL next year. Guys had career years or they had average years. Nobody had a "down" year. That makes me very worried, and I would recommend selling off the parts while their value is still high.

  • Duas

    Abby...you guys are great! I hope Neil is OK...

  • Abby

    Good idea Baron - if you're interested in a "CCO Get Together", let Neil know at neil@chicagocubsonline.com and I'll set something up soon.

  • Michael

    Thanks to the CCO members and Neil for the unbelievable time and committment to the season. Hard to believe 162 games of bliss can come to this. We shall see what direction the franchise goes in the next six months. Thanks again to all who have been companions on this site and I wish everyone safe and healthy winter months. Best wishes and I am sad to say goodbye in what seems and feels a to be a premature ending. This pain will end sometime before April...

  • Jim

    One more thing. For all those who want to get rid of Lee. look at his stats. The only bat that showed up. Only problem no one was on in front of him. Some of you really think to think before you leave some of these posts. Either some of you are really young or just act like it. My father always said to me after every lose "Jim there is nothing worse than a poor loser, except for a poor winner."

  • Abby

    Baron,

    You are a sweetie.



    I can't rename my dog Alfonso Soriano.....because he is a winner :)

  • daverj

    I can't remember the last time I swore so much over the course of two hours!



    As for the offseason ... signing Manny would be a mistake and another signing to regret like Soriano. I agree with Neil and Jason B ... we need a lead-off hitter. Furcal would be perfect. So would Brian Roberts ... though I hate to go down the Roberts speculation road again this offseason.



    Finally ... a thank you to Neil for the site! It's a great place with great people.



    GO CUBBIES!!!

  • baron

    Neil,



    You should organize an in-person meeting of all CCO regulars this off-season -- I would love to see what you guys look like in real life --- pick a weekend --- and I'll come on out there....



    :)



    Nite Folks --- Have to drive to New Haven in the morning and deal with public scorn and humiliation Monday morning...





  • Jim

    What a waste. 161 games watched for nothing. These guys are going to make people stop caring. I saw no life, no heart, no emotion and no RUNS!!!!!!!!!! Its going to be real hard to want to cheer for these guys next season. 9 straight loses in the postseason.



    Neil thanks for a place to come and vent and a place to find all the news and rumors. For the first time I will not be watching the rest of the playoffs. I just don't care.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Things to do:



    1) Sell Team To Mark Cuban

    2) Sign CC SABATHIA

    3) Sign Manny Ramirez

    4) Teach Fukudome to sell Old Style in the Stands

  • baron

    Abby,



    Neil runs the best Cubs fan site in the business ---



    Kudos to both of you ---- and your scaredy-cat Dog --- I think you should re-name him Alfonso Soriano

  • Duas

    It's funny how our judgment of other people changes so quickly....just two weeks ago...all of us were praising Jim Hendry for all the moves that he has made over the years to bring together the team that went on to win 97 years...And now, the players didn't perform...and we all turn on JH? Come on guys...let's be classy



    The GM's job is to construct a winning team...and there was not a single analyst at the beginning of the season who said the Cubs weren't going to win the NL Central. That was his job...and he was successful. What happens after that...is either Lou's fault or the players'...The fact that we don't have a Mr. October...it has to take two postseasons for JH to figure that out just as it did for us



    Regarding player's showing fire...they showed a lot of emotion and fire in the final 3 innings of today's game...but that was too late



    I won't wave goodbye yet...as I will come back to read others' comments and maybe respond to a few

  • Abby

    Hey guys,

    While I still have your attention, I just wanted to thank you all for being a part of the site this season.



    For those of you who don't know Neil, he typically puts in 12-hour days at his 'real job' and gets about 4-5 hours of sleep a night after keeping up the site.



    Every time he considers "shutting down the site" because it's just taking too much out of him, he thinks about all of you who come here regularly and make this site what it is.



    I'll be booking our flights and the hotel for Spring Training before I know it. In the meantime, just remember that it was a fun season.



    Come back every day to see what's happening in the offseason.



    You guys really are what keeps this going.



    Abby (aka The Wife)

  • GaryLeeT

    I echo Jason's sentiments Neil.

  • baron

    Neil,



    Thanks for all your efforts this season -- as usual --- you run a terrific ship on this site.....





    alas --- lets wait till the off-season and see if that completely MORON Jim Hendry does something to improve this show --- Starting with --- GETTING MANNY RAMIREZ ---

  • Justin

    Well, not much to say. Our bats fell asleep long before this series. There was no way to come back after the 5 errors in two games. DLee and DROS did their part, even with the errors. I am heart broken. I am at a loss for words. There is no explanation, it's why they play the games. I don't question Lou, but maybe the heart of these guys. No one looked pumped up or that need to win mentality. TOO laid back. This will be the last post for me this year. It's too hard to go through this after the 03 season. I was at that game five in Miami, and to have lost every postseason game since then...not even a cubs fan would guess that would happen. 9 postseason losses in a row and no answers, where do we go for next year? I guess that is the question isn't it? Because there is no more this year. Have a great holiday season and offseason to all, I am going to a dark place. But I will end with one thing...I AM PROUD TO BE CUBS FAN! PERIOD!

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Neil,



    On behalf of all of those that enjoy the daily recaps, the latest news, and the available soapbox, I just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work this year.



    Sorry that we didn't have a better finish for you.



    On the plus side...time to start talking off-season!



    :)

  • baron

    A Pathetic, disgraceful, humiliatiing abominable perforamnce





    Cubs are 0-8 in their last 8 playoff games --- FUC#$# gutless shrimps.....

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Ironic we lose to a team with Ned Colletti as the GM who made the late season moves to get Manny.... You'll remember Ned was the Cubs Media Relations guy for many years.....



    It was a great season.....disappointing end.....



    And we all say in unison....



    Wait Till Next Year

  • Jason B. from AZ

    2008 Chicago Cubs: special, but not really all that special.



    Season ends...not with a bang, but with a whimper.

  • baron

    5 runs in 3 games.... Soriano 1 - 14 in the series with 0 HR and 0 RBI and the stud Broxton just urinated on this pathetic team.....

  • Becky

    You know, I love em all. I think of the Cubs as family. They have been in our living room 162 times this season. I hope the fans aren't too hard on them. My heart is breaking for all of the players right now. You can see it in their eyes that they feel they've failed themselves and the fans. Let's be supportive stand behind em.

  • baron

    Broxton is like Farnsworth on Steroids with testicles

  • JimK

    I'm more than diasppointed and angry--especially with Soriano and Rameriz. But, I'm not going to cut off my head.

  • Becky

    You know the phrase "Be careful what you wish for You just might get it."? I love my Cubbies and they've played their hearts out all year, but I think they got what they wished for and are under way too much pressure and are screwing up. They are trying way too hard.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    PLEASE let Reed pinch hit for Fukudome!!!!!!!!!!!

    Or Zambrano!!!!

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Fukudome could play CF and hit in the 8 hole rather than Pie....

  • Duas

    Will we see Saito in the 9th? There's still hope...we scored twice on him in game 2..

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Manny to the Cubs to play LF.....nobody is more October then him.....move Soriano to RF with his cannon....



    Soriano RF

    Theriot SS

    Ramirez LF

    Ramirez 3B

    Lee 1B

    Soto C

    DeRosa 2B

    Pie CF

  • baron

    I meant to say bad-ass about Broxton......



    Compare his mean face to Rich Hill who looks like his mommy didn't pack his PBJ for lunch --

  • baron

    Broxton is one looking MOFO ... for once --- i can't blame the hitters --- but Kuroda looked far from un-hittable tonight and our woeful top of the order disgraced and humiliated themselves...

  • Neil

    Duas....you are right.

  • Neil

    Ward with the first 2-out RBI of the series for the Cubs.

  • Dorasaga

    Will Broxton lose his control tonight? He's done so, so let's wish, Cubbie BLues!

  • baron

    Soto 1-11 in the post-season....



    A-Ram, Soriano and Soto have been DISGRACEFUL this series

  • baron

    D. Lee has been the best hitter in the NLDS..

  • Duas

    I meant...at least Soriano went the other way with it....We need to go out and get a Mr. OCTOBER this offseason...doesnt matter at what position it is

  • Duas

    Neil...at least went the other way with it

  • Jeff in Az

    I love all of you guys, but I think we may have to get ready to embrace disappointment again. Rally time... please.

  • Neil

    Fourth different inning left two on base tonight. Soriano swinging at the first pitch just makes me want to scream....

  • zth

    game over.

  • baron

    Soriano looks like a complete shi$ Head hitter much of the time....... He is great against soft-tossing back of the rotation guys who have poor command and throw it low in the zone

  • ZTH

    here it is, guys. We mess up here and it's over. 2 on, 1 out. lets go sori.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Neul,

    Don't disagree.

    That frees up DeRosa for the supersub role that he is so good at.

    Furcal gives you the leadoff hitter you need, and the steals.



    Supposedly he was overpaid. Hendry called the signing of Furcal "ridiculous" at the time.



    Wonder how he looks himself in the mirror when he paid Fukudome the same amount, and Fuku was unproven at the mlb level.



    I think you jinked Furcal! That could be the spark we need!

  • Duas

    I would have liked to see Reed Johnson in for Edmonds instead of Fukudome...I dont think Johnson has made a single appearance so far in this series...when we know that every time the Cubs had a comeback or a big inning...Reed Johnson was ALWAYS in the middle of it

  • Neil

    Jason, this will also not be a popular statement, but the Cubs need a shortstop. Let Theriot move to 2B, more of a 8 spot hitter, can flip the lineup and his arm and range is better suited for second at the major league level. Hendry tried 3 years ago and was outbid by the Dodgers, but Furcal is a free agent and looks pretty darn healthy to me.



    That would help with the leadoff spot a little, don't you think?

  • baron

    Theriot is a scrappy hitter --- but his arm at SS is SO incredibly weak...

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Neil,

    I would tend to agree, but then you have to figure out the CF position, and Fukudome has to become the player Hendry thought he was. We can't take Soriano out of the #1 spot, if that means we are dependent on Fontenot/Cedeno/Theriot to get things done.



    Maybe Pie makes the jump next year. Or perhaps Reed Johnson. This is not a knock on Edmonds, but who/where does your #1 hitter come from then?



    I suppose a .300 hitting Theriot would be an option.



    Theriot

    Fukudome

    Ramirez

    Soriano

    Lee

    Edmonds

    Soto

    DeRosa



    If Fukudome can hit, that lineup seems awesome.

    Not a lot of speed/steals, but still potent.



    This team doesn't need to be blown up. We just need to avoid playing a bunch of backups in a playoff game. That wouldn't be happening in our big-time players like Fuku and Soriano were producing.

  • Duas

    Whether they admit or not...the pressure of 100 years without a title got to the players' minds...



    actually...now that i said that...i dont know what got to their minds last year



    At least next year there wont be any pressure of 100 years as a round figure...now that its past 100 years..its past...a lot of people wanted it this year more than any other year mostly because 100 years sounded better than 101 years...



    it seems that we are going to be in the playoffs often in the upcoming years...one of those years...we should be able to get it done...that's why its important to keep the team together and not dismantle it as many are suggesting...let them play as a team again and again in the playoffs...get more relaxed..etc

  • baron

    AMEN to that Neil,



    Even a complete fool like Brian Cashman saw the flaws in Soriano --- He bats no.5 or he should be DFA'd and Jim Hendry should wash dishes at the Cubbie Bear to pay his salary

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    There is plenty of blame to go around....from the offense...to the pitching staff....to the manager....



    Lou has made some crap decisions....Fukudome should never have been in the line up for games 1 and 2....Wrigley is not spacious...and the games were at night...so no sun to deal with....If D-RO wasn't ready....hell they could have used Reed Johnson who is a scrapper!! Keeping Fontenot on the bench when he was one of the hottest hitters in September was stupid....starting Harden in a must win game KNOWING he is not 100% is lame......Lilly has been very hot of late....HE should have been in tonight.....



    Just awful......

  • Neil

    Baron, I think Soriano had 2 hits last year.



    I know this will not be a popular statement, but his performance the past two Octobers is why the Cubs need a lead off hitter. Regular season, Soriano does his job, mostly against 3's, 4's and 5's and puts his team in position to win games. In the post-season, over matched and selfish.

  • baron

    It's not just this year... For 2 years now, our offense has looked like a School-Girl Softball team in the playoffs

  • Duas

    Let's get off of DLEE's back...he is hitting .500! Sori is entirely responsible for this lack of offense

  • baron

    A-Ram 2-10 0 HR 0 RBI Appalling!!!

  • baron

    Soriano is 1-12 with 0 HR and 0 RBI ... an ABJECT FAILURE..

  • baron

    Apologies Jason B.... I am just ready to pull teeth!!!

  • shawn s

    This team is pathetic. I haven't seen a team suck this bad in a play-off series since, oh let me think, last years Cubs team. It will be another 100 years before they win a world series if they continue to play without passion and don't do little things like moving runners over or getting a run in with a man on second and nobody out. It doesn't help that our pitchers keep walking everyone with those players scoring. Did they have to much time off during the last week of the season, is that the problem?

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Well....I see a fat lady standing up at Dodger Stadium............ hopefully it's just to go get a few Dodger Dogs....but it doesnt look good....

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Baron,

    Call me ignorant on Hoffpauir. Stupid is a poor choice of words on your part, but you are understandably in a bad mood at this point.



    I still would have pinch-hit at that point...the Cubs can't waste any more scoring opptys.

  • baron

    And Theriot is a VERY MEDIOCRE defensive short-stop... he has no range and and arm like a 12 year old schoolgirl

  • baron

    5 runs in 3 games in this series...



    10 runs in 3 games in the 2007 NLDS.... This GREAT offense averages about 2.5 runs per game in the last 2 seasons.... THAT IS DISGRACEFUL

  • GaryLeeT

    I don't think that pointing out deficiencies on the team you root for, makes you a fair-weather fan. It just means that you are a student of the game, and are expressing where you would like to see improvements or changes made.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Our guys look mediocre.

    The fact that we have Theriot, DeRosa, and Fontenot all in the lineup at the same time, in the most important playoff game of the year, stuns me.



    All 3 are borderline bench players.



    Contrast that with the Dodgers, and they have Nomar, Jeff Kent, and Juan Pierre on their bench.



    We have Ronny Cedeno and Darryl Ward.

    Man oh man.



    Derrick Lee decides to finally show emotion. A bit late Derrick. How much are we paying you again. I gave him all of last season as a pass, because I figured his wrist/daughter was the culprit. But he has truly shown that 2005 was just a fluke. He is the same guy he was in 2004: solid, but not a superstar. Not a #3 hitter.



    Lou has shown me nothing. The guys look undisciplined, hit too many grounders, too many guys aren't working the counts. The mental errors. Pathetic.



    Alou/Sosa/Ramirez from 2003 seems a lot more potent than what we have now, whcih is surprising considering the offense we put up.



    Theriot did well all year in #2, so Lou puts the bench player (Fontenot) in his spot. Huh? Makes no sense.



    I blame the playoffs on Fukudome. What I mean by that is if Fuku was productive, it would keep DeRosa at 2B, the lineup would be that much more potent, and the defense more solid.



    22 starts, I think, out of 25, Harden gave up 2 runs or less. The Dodgers just scored their 3rd. This is just not the Cubs year, my friends.

  • baron

    Its hard to score runs when your leadoff hitter hits .083... as this crew said -- hes a good hitter with a LOT of holes --- in the playoffs you don't face to many no.4 and no.5 schmucks -- you face STUDs who find holes....



    Soriano might be the most over-rated 35 HR hitting outfielder ever....

  • baron

    Its hard to score runs when your leadoff hitter hits .083... as this crew said -- hes a good hitter with a LOT of holes --- in the playoffs you don't face to many no.4 and no.5 schmucks -- you face STUDs who find holes....



    Soriano might be the most over-rated 35 HR hitting outfielder ever....

  • Neil

    Baron, you are right on Harden, but he is hurt. Lou had a chance and I feel he should have taken it.

  • daverj

    No way I would have pinch hit for Harden. He's pitching pretty well and I'd be afraid 5 innings of the bullpen would give up a few more runs. Hopefully we can come up with 3 runs over the next 4 innings.

  • Duas

    DLEE FINALLY showed some emotion there...

  • Neil

    Soriano is 1-for-12 in the series.....WOW!



    I would pay to see him hit the ball to right field.

  • baron

    The Big 3 all hit less than .205 in the playoffs with SIGNIFICANT playing time for each of them ---



    Sosa, Mcgriff, Alou was a MUCH better big 3

  • baron

    Jason B -- Hoffpauir is not on the playoff roster... please don't be stupid

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Neil,

    I agree.

    I am the biggest Harden fan, but I would have pinch-hit for him with Hoffpauir...gotta go for it...there is no tomorrow.



    C'mon Soriano!!!!

  • Trevor

    Critical inning coming up here. Top of the lineup for the Cubs has to get things done.



    A note on Soriano's postseason...he is a streaky hitter. He has batted poorly so far for us, but he has also dominated in some postseason series in past years.

  • Rob

    John, they've had base runners in Game 1, Game 2, and this game...what kind of offensive outpouring have we seen?..none...they may be capable of putting up big innings..but there is a difference of being capable and actually doing..and their in a zone of not doing..



    "it's only a matter of time"...umm..call the dugout and tell them their time is almost up...

  • baron

    Neil, I have to COMPLETELY disagree..... For all his success --- Dempster is 1/10th the pitcher than Harden is....... As long as he is not fatigued... Harden is a superstar pitcher... Dempster is not....

  • Neil

    Harden is pitching a decent game, but I still feel he should have been lifted. Dempster is in the pen and right now there is not a tomorrow. A base hit would have done so much to relax the team.



    Six left on base in 4 innings and Kuroda has not allowed a run to the Cubs at Dodger Stadium in 13 innings.



    Just one run would do so much...in my humble opinion.

  • John Underdown

    They have base runners on every inning...it's only a matter of time......talk to me after the game Rob GO CUBS GO!!!!!

  • baron

    First pitch swinging for DE-Rosa.... FUC#$#$ IDIOT... DONKEY--- MORON -- -FRESH WATER SWAB -- IMBECILE --- POC MARK

  • Rob

    getting eliminated before the Brewers and White Sox is going to be so embarassing and humiliating.



    John, I don't see people as being "fair weather"..I see them being realistic about what's actually occuring...

  • Trevor

    DeRo HAS to lift that ball into the outfield.

  • Neil

    Horrible, horrible at bat by DeRosa. No patience.



    I think Harden should be lifted. Dempster is in the pen.

  • John Underdown

    all you fair-weather fans please leave the room

  • Neil

    Good start by Soto...and a productive out by Edmonds. First productive out of the series by the Cubs.

  • John Underdown

    Lou needs to keep his ass in the dugout

  • Dorasaga

    The fact that Harden pitched well with men-on-base proves that he's IN the game.



    In the contrary, at the plate, Patience, lineup guys, patience...

  • Neil

    Good job getting out of the jam.



    The offense MUST get going.

  • Rob

    the Dodgers have scored 13 of their 19 runs in this series with 2 outs. that just magnifies how "un-clutch" the Cubs offense has been.



    at least there was a good camera angle of Harden's face as Lou came to the mind..just reminded me of how cute Harden is..*sigh*

  • Duas

    The fact that Furcal didnt score in the inning means that good things are starting to happen to us...

  • baron

    The Cubs are about to lose 8 CONSECUTIVE playoff Games......

  • baron

    Soriano is 16 for 79 in the post-season for a .205 Average.... and Jim the IMBECILE Hendry pays him $136 million .... Even the Biggest Sucker GM, Brian Cashman, rejected Soriano........

  • GaryLeeT

    Not a hero in the bunch. After being swept out of the playoffs 2 years in a row, I see no point in keeping this team together. It is packed with mental midgets that can't wait to hop the first plane back to the Dominican. Like so many teams before them the Cubs have discovered that all the talent in the world is worthless unless its coupled the mental fortitude. Does any Cub fan take solace in a "nice season"? HELL NO! It's time to start over, and get some "gamers" on this team.

  • Duas

    Who wants to bet that Furcal is going to score a run this inning?

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