Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Mets - 09/23/08

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Game One Hundred Fifty-Six: Cubs (95-60) vs. Mets (86-70)
Game Time - 6:10pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 188
Location - Shea Stadium, New York

Sean Marshall (3-4, 3.62/1.22) vs. Johan Santana (14-7, 2.65/1.17)

The Cubs will face a desperate New York Met squad tonight that saw their lead in the NL Wild Card drop to just a single game over the Milwaukee Brewers on Monday. Jerry Manuel will send his ace, Johan Santana, to the hill tonight and Lou Piniella has pushed back Rich Harden in favor of Sean Marshall. Reports have indicated Harden is fine but Piniella is attempting to align his rotation for the post-season. Piniella indicated Marshall could start in the season finale on Sunday in Milwaukee.

If the playoffs started today, the Cubs would face Santana in game one and it is imperative for the Cubs that the Brewers remain in the hunt until the final game of the season. Santana is slated to start on Sunday against the Marlins which would make him unavailable for a possible game one in the NLDS against the Cubs next Wednesday....

Sean Marshall will make his seventh start of the season tonight and his first since September 7th in Cincinnati. Marshall gave up a run on 3 hits in 6 innings on the Sunday afternoon Kerry Wood's wildness and an error by Ronny Cedeno led to a 9th inning defeat at the hands of Dusty Baker's team. Sean Marshall did his part and turned in a gem substituting for Carlos Zambrano.

Marshall is 1-4 as a starter with a 4.24 ERA and a 1.29 WHIP.

Tonight will be Marshall's second career start and appearance against the Mets. Carlos Beltran and company beat up the Cubs left hander in his first appearance against them on a Sunday afternoon back in 2006. The Mets plated 7 runs, 5 earned, on 7 hits in 5 1/3 innings. The Cubs lost 13 to 7 and Marshall served up three longballs....and hit one of his own. Cliff Floyd, Carlos Beltran and David Wright all went deep in the 11-run 6th inning.

  • Marlon Anderson - 0-for-4
  • Carlos Beltran - 1-for-3 with a home run
  • Luis Castillo - 0-for-3
  • Carlos Delgado - 1-for-3
  • David Wright - 1-for-3 with a home run

The Cubs will get their first look tonight at Johan Santana in a Mets' uniform. Arguably the best lefty in the game has been the only consistent pitcher in New York's rotation throughout the season. Santana has been very good in his first full year in the Senior Circuit and is 7-3 in 15 starts at Shea with a 2.26 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP while holding opponents to a .229 average.

Santana is coming off a gem, as most of his starts are, against the Nationals. He allowed 1 run on 8 hits with 8 strikeouts and a walk in 7 innings. Santana has put together a very typical second half for him....he is 6-0 in 13 starts with a 2.38 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP. In his last 4 starts, 2-0 with a 2.30 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP.

Santana would be receiving major consideration for the NL Cy Young Award if his bullpen was better. Santana has received 11 no decisions this season....8 of those were decided by 2 runs or less and 5 ended up being Met losses.

Santana is 1-0 in 4 career games, 1 start, against the Cubs with a 1.38 ERA and a 0.77 WHIP. Santana dominated the Cubs at the Metrodome back on June 23, 2006. The Cubs managed 2 runs, 1 earned, on 5 hits in 8 innings....Phil Nevin hit a home run in the 6th for the only earned run in the game for the Cubs.

  • Henry Blanco - 0-for-3
  • Ronny Cedeno - 0-for-3
  • Mark DeRosa - 1-for-6
  • Reed Johnson - 10-for-19 with a double and a home run
  • Derrek Lee - 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Aramis Ramirez - 0-for-4
  • Alfonso Soriano - 0-for-6 with 2 walks

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Gary....

    we can agree to disagree because I would argue against your response.



    There is always a pitcher (or two) who is used little in each series to serve as the "long man" should a started have a rocky beginning. Unlike a regular season game when the starter might get a chance to get things worked out....the playoffs are do or die, so you have another guy ready to go deep in a game. If a pitcher doesnt have it, you yank him quick with a second reason being it saves his arm since he doesnt have it anyway. I can almost guarantee you that will be Jason's role. Happens every year with playoff teams...the number 5 started almost always ends up as the long man hardly used. No way Lou uses Marquis in a role he is not familiar with, trying to get loose to come in for an inning of relief. Marshall is acting as that guy now during the regular season, but during the playoff crunch will serve as a situational left with Cotts.



    Lou certainly does not want to "burn" through 5 or 6 pitchers a night. First of all, keep in mind he is probably only going to carry 11 pitchers. Count 4 for the rotation (Dempster, Harden, Z, Lilly) and that leaves 7 pitchers. You're telling me Lou will use most of them each night? No way he is gonna burn his pen like that. You'll have Woody closing, Marmol setting up and probably the Shark in the 7th. Cotts and Marshall are the situational lefties...with Marquis on hand as the long relief man, that leaves one spot, presumably to Gaudin if he gets his act together otherwise I think Howry grabs it.

  • Neil

    Yes Baron. If the playoffs began tomorrow, the Cubs would face the Mets in the first round.



    The team with the best record in the league faces the Wild Card winner unless the Wild Card winner is from the same division.



    Right now the first round matchups would be:



    Cubs vs. Mets

    Phillies vs. Dodgers



    If the Brewers win the Wild Card:



    Cubs vs. Dodgers

    Phillies vs. Brewers



    If the Phillies win the Wild Card, flip the Mets and Phillies.



    Season records only slot the division winners, it does not include the Wild Card winner, they are always the lowest seed.

  • baron

    Neil,



    The Cubs would face the Mets? Even if they have a better record than the Dodgers??? Personally, I'd MUCH rather face the Mets than the Dodgers, even with Santana

  • Neil

    The Brewers just won on a walk off by Prince Fielder. I know it is hard to 'root' for the Brewers, but the Cubs need them to stay in the Wild Card hunt until the final game. That will force the Mets to use Santana on Sunday and if the Cubs face the Mets in the first round, they would see him only once in a five game series....unless they start him on short rest.



    Just my 'two cents'....

  • nick

    Jim, I couldn't agree more on both points.

    This week I am trying to get as much done around the house as possible because come playoff time, that all get's put on hold.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    A few thoughts....



    * Johan throws 125 pitches, against a so-so line up.

    Hmmmmmm.



    * I love just sitting back and relaxing this week.

  • Matt Haggard

    So, does any Smashing Pumpkins fan know the song "Soul Power"



    When Hoffpauir bats, I sing that song but replace "Soul Power" with "Hoff Power".



    Do it! You'll have so much fun!

  • JimK

    I'm back, and men, What happened? Even though I morphed 2 runs into 3, the early shift of Neil and I had a lead after Marshall's 4 shutout innings. Gaudin has to be still hurting. Another outing like tonight, and he'll miss the first round of the playoffs, IMO. The really important outing is Z's tomorrow.

  • GaryLeeT

    I strongly disagree Joe. Playoffs are nothing like the regular season. In a tight game(like a lot of playoff games are), relievers are brought in after the first sign of trouble from the 5th or 6th inning on, and the lefty righty match-ups are more strictly adhered to. I would not be surprised to see Lou burn through 5 or 6 guys out of the pen each night, so why is hard to believe Marquis would not be one of them? Why not the first one?

    Hey, Wade Miller would have the opposition off balance with his 78mph fastball.

  • Matt Haggard

    This is the same Casey McGehee that I remember in Iowa. Pesky as hell.



    Not the most talented guy but tons of effort. I love guys like that.



    Theriot, Casey, Fonty, Koyie, etc.

  • Matt Haggard

    Man, I didnt even know we tried to pick him up dude.



    Wiki:

    "Simontacchi considered playing for Italy at the 2006 World Baseball Classic, but didn't. He signed a minor-league deal with the Chicago Cubs for the 2006 season, but his contract was voided. However, he pitched 10 games in the independent Atlantic League for the Bridgeport Bluefish with an ERA of 0.84."



    It sounded like he could have helped in 06. Anything could have helped in 06...

  • Trevor

    We could dig up Simontachi as well Matt...

  • Matt Haggard

    We could always call Wade Miller, Gary.



    He's still a free agent. =)

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Jason will only be the first righty out of the pen if the starter is blown out. Marquis and Marshall will serve as long men in the pen. Especially Marquis. Presuming the starter goes 6 or 7, no way is Marquis the first man out.



    The bubble winners will be: Gaudin as the RP, despite how he looked tonight....and Pie, as Lou takes speed and late inning defense over tyhe stick....

  • GaryLeeT

    I am sure Marquis will be the first righty out of the pen during the post season.

    Kevin Hart? Is Lou sure he doesn't have somebody else with an ERA of about 10 that he could use?

  • Neil

    Matt...no video on the guy on the field.



    Jose Reyes was 'very happy' when he reached 3rd....too bad he did not break on contact, should be 7-2 Mets. Don't celebrate like that, act like you've been there.....and just play the game.

  • Matt Haggard

    I always thought Marquis would be a fine reliever. Even a closer.



    Theres just questions about mental toughnenss. I wonder how good Jason's numbers are the first time through the order?



    I bet he looks good is short ammounts.

  • Matt Haggard

    Damn..



    Maybe that number has something to do with it.

  • Trevor

    Gaudin has looked bad and Marquis has been pretty good lately. Why not Jason in Gaudin's role?

  • Neil

    Matt... I agree. They need Gaudin healthy or for Randy Wells to step up, but that is a lot to ask.



    Kevin Hart?!?! I keep saying, change the number and he will pitch better.

  • GaryLeeT

    I agree. Gaudin is on the bubble, and he's running out of time to make his case.

  • Matt Haggard

    ..And that's why I don't drink.



    Dude's a dummy.



    Is CSN showing the guy? Pat's call on it was pretty entertaining if anything.

  • Matt Haggard

    Gaudin isnt helping his postseason cause.



    And I feel he's one of the guys we need, if he's healthy..

  • Neil

    Good outing by Marshall

  • nick

    Man, that last pitch to Castillo looked pretty dang good.

  • Neil

    A Sandy Koufax reference...awesome.



    On the "tired" stars....Soriano is 0-for-8 in the series.

  • JimK

    Marshall K's Beltran and Delgado after a leadoff walk. Then he gets a routine pop fly. That adds up to 4 shutout innings sports fans. Manual just asked the ump to see Marshall's driving license. Manual suspects the license reads Sandy Koufax. I'm out of here for an hour or so.

  • JimK

    The league office just called Lou. They asked him to play the tired stars so the contending Mets will have a fair shot at winning. Lou said that he'd pass the message along to Ryno who was called up too for a late-season look-see.

  • JimK

    Cedeno, with the Cubs 4th double and Monster Jacker, Rompin' Reed Johnson with a cleanup single score the 3rd run off Santana. Are we having fun yet. I will have to step aside soon so don't mess this one up, Neil.

  • Neil

    Reed with a 2-out single....



    JimK...GREAT stuff, made me laugh!

  • JimK

    Marshall has a 1,2,3 second. You can't stop Marshall, Dome and McGehee, you can only hope to contain them.

  • Neil

    Casey and Kosuke with back-to-back doubles off Santana

  • JimK

    So Dome and McGehee do the unexpected with back to back doubles and the Cubs lead.

  • cubsluvr12

    omg the cubs better win!!!! i hope they do!!!!

  • JimK

    A very interesting lineup. Lou could get some criticism from the purists who will say he doesn't have enough stars in the lineup against a team in contention. Dome will have a big challenge with Johan. Hopefully, Marshall is at his best in a matchup with the Mets' ace, and it's a very competitive game. I do like that Lou is trying to get his best players ready for the playoffs.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    Cedeno - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Johnson - CF

    DeRosa - 2B

    McGehee - 3B

    Fukudome - RF

    Blanco - C

    Marshall - P

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