Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Brewers - 09/16/08

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Game One Hundred Forty-Nine: Cubs (90-58) vs. Brewers (83-67)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 188
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Ryan Dempster (15-6, 3.02/1.21) vs. CC Sabathia (15-8, 2.81/1.31 - 9-0, 1.59/1.01)

Lou Piniella's crew opens the last homestand of the season tonight with the first of three against the Milwaukee Brewers. Ryan Dempster will have the task of facing the Brewers for the first time under new manager Dale Sveum. Doug Melvin (Brewers' GM) and Mark Attanasio (Brewers' owner) shocked the baseball world on Monday by firing Ned Yost....with only 12 games remaining in the season and the Brewers in the thick of the playoff picture. Despite being swept in a 4-game series by the Phillies over the weekend, the Brewers enter play tonight tied with the Philadelphia for the NL Wild Card and 8 back of the Cubs (9 in the loss column), with half of their games left against the team they are chasing.

The move by the Brewers' front office on Monday was described more than once as being desperate and the Cubs will face either a fired up team on a mission tonight or a flat team that is waiting for the shoe to fall once again. The Brewers always play their best against the Cubs, especially at Wrigley Field....the Brewers have won 4 of 6 at the Friendly Confines this season and the Cubs are 6-4 against Milwaukee this year with 6 games left on the schedule.

Maybe the comments from Salomon Torres will be used as billboard material in the old clubhouse....

Ryan Dempster pitched good enough to win his last outing against the Cardinals but for the second start in a row he did not receive any run support. The Cubs were 4-0 in Dempster's four previous starts (3-0 for Dempster) but the Cubs offense has given him only 3 runs of support while Dempster has allowed 6 runs on 15 hits in 14 innings with 5 walks and 13 strikeouts (0-1). Dempster has not posted a win since August 23rd to no fault of his own. After going 3-1 in 5 starts in August with a 3.19 ERA and a 1.39 WHIP, Dempster is 0-1 in his last 2 starts with a 3.86 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP. Dempster must cut down on his free passes tonight against the dangerous Brewers offense.

Tonight will be Dempster's fourth start of the season against the Brewers. He is 3-0 with a 2.37 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP. Dempster pitched the third game of the series in Milwaukee at the end of July and allowed 1 run on 5 hits in 7 innings with a walk and 9 strikeouts.

A similar performance by Dempster will be needed in order to fend off a very desperate Brewers' team.

  • Ryan Braun - 2-for-11 with a double
  • Mike Cameron - 3-for-13
  • Craig Counsell - 1-for-10
  • Ray Durham - 6-for-11 with 3 doubles
  • Prince Fielder - 2-for-11
  • Bill Hall - 3-for-18
  • J.J. Hardy - 0-for-13
  • Corey Hart - 0-for-9 with 3 walks
  • Jason Kendall - 14-for-32 with 2 doubles and 5 walks
  • Mike Lamb - 1-for-7 with a triple
  • Mike Rivera - 1-for-3 with a home run
  • Rickie Weeks - 2-for-9

The Cubs will get their second look of the season at CC Sabathia in a Brewers' uniform. Alfonso Soriano set the tone in Milwaukee in the first game of the series with a lead off double and a home run in his first two at bats. It will be interesting to see how Sabathia goes after Soriano tonight.

Sabathia has been just short of perfect for the Brewers and has not lost a game since coming over from Cleveland. The Cubs and the Reds have come the closest to handing him his first loss in the Senior Circuit. But like the Cubs bullpen, the Reds relievers were unable to hold a lead and Sabathia received a no decision in his last start.

Sabathia gave up 3 runs on 8 hits in 7 innings to the Reds (a 3-run homer by Jerry Hairston, Jr.) with a walk and 8 strikeouts. Sabathia has not posted a win since August 31st but Milwaukee is 12-1 in his 13 starts in a Brewers' uniform....the only loss, to the Cubs on July 28th.

The Cubs must be patient against Sabathia tonight and make him work in his first career start at Wrigley Field.

After posting a 4-0 record in 6 starts with 3 complete games in July (2.27 ERA and a 1.01 WHIP), Sabathia was 5-0 in 6 starts with 3 complete games in August (1.12 ERA and a 0.99 WHIP) but could be showing signs of fatigue. One of the favorites to win the NL Cy Young Award this season does not have a record in 2 starts this month with a 2.57 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP with a .245 OBA....his worst line since April.

  • Henry Blanco - 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Ronny Cedeno - 1-for-5
  • Mark DeRosa - 2-for-6
  • Jim Edmonds - 1-for-4 with 2 walks
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 1-for-1
  • Reed Johnson - 8-for-24 with 2 doubles and a home run
  • Derrek Lee - 2-for-4
  • Aramis Ramirez - 3-for-10 with a walk
  • Alfonso Soriano - 10-for-29 with a double, 4 home runs and 5 walks
  • Geovany Soto - 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Ryan Theriot - 1-for-3

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Matt Haggard

    It sounds like to me that ESPN thinks individual stars mean more than complete teams.



    We'll show them..

  • Neil

    Austin, he also picked the Brewers after they landed CC. That's fine, don't let it bother you. The Cubs just need to continue to take care of business.

  • Austin

    Buster Olney just picked the Dodgers to go to the World Series on baseball tonight... He also chose the Red Wings in the AL.

  • Duas

    I think everybody today learned the importance of those TACK ON runs...if we hadn't scored in the 7th and 8th innings...we'd be looking at a loss right now



    Great win!

  • Matt Haggard

    Did Rob Neyer just call the Dodgers the best team in the NL...

  • Matt Haggard

    I just want to clinch at home.



    This sooo helps.

  • nick

    No they don't Matt.



    I love the fact that we gave CC his first lose as a Brewer.

  • agustin rexach

    1400KID K!!!!What a Game! A literal reflection [game] on how the Brewers have been playing catch up against this team all season. A loss would have fired that dangerous Brewer team. Cubs took care of buisness and set the tone!

  • Neil

    Big, big, big win!!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    No joking, Nick.



    I went through my entire left hand!!



    These Cubs dont promote healthy habits..

  • nick

    CUBS WIN!!



    Man, I don't think I have any finger nails left!

  • eric

    CUBS WIN!!! 1400 K'S FOR THE KID!!!



    MAGIC # IS 4!

  • Matt Haggard

    -FIN-



    One of the prettiest curve balls I have ever seen!



    -FOUR!-

  • JIm (Tinley Park)

    Nation Represent!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Boseph Heyden

    1) Kerry Wood hit 97 MPH...jeez

    2) See ya Cardinals...

    3) Let's go ahead and change that magic number to 4

  • I can't watch.... *crossed fingers*

  • nick

    Come on WOOD!! Get this guy out!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Oh no..

  • Trevor

    agustin, yeah we want to avoid that brawl type scenario at this point in the season, I understand. I'm just saying in general, I wouldn't care if we bean the jackass every time.



    There are guys like Pujols, who I hate because he plays for the Cards and is wicked good, BUT I still respect him as a player. Then there are guys like The Prince who just have an attitude that makes me want to scream.



    C'mon WOOD!!!!

  • nick

    Let's close this one out Woody!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Look at Hank White!

  • nick

    Nice job Hank!!

  • Hank White has been clutch lately! C'mon Fuk...

  • nick

    Come on Hank White.

  • Neil

    Reed....gotta swing at pitches that close.

  • Rob

    I think from now on I shall spell F-u-k-u-d-o-m-e as follows: T-r-a-d-e-m-e

  • Gary, one of the few moments we get to see as fans... one of many experienced by the players. Can you imagine how much fun they are having in the clubhouse? In the dugout? On the plane? I would give 10 years of my life to spend one day with the team... Hmm... I wonder how much jail time they would give me for being an imposter in the clubhouse? Heck, I could pass for Fontenot... until my turn to bat, that is... LOL



    Hope DeRo is OK...

  • Matt Haggard

    Didnt DeRo get stung like this the other day..

  • Matt Haggard

    Because no one takes it like Milwaukee takes it.



    Light this guy up!

  • nick

    Let's take it to their bullpen now.

  • GaryLeeT

    Soriano's self promoted curtain call, is the funniest, in game event, this season.

    Fukudome's first swing against Sabathia was the saddest.

  • agustin rexach

    No Trevor. Just no fast balls ever again. The least you want is to fire those guys up by turning this ino a stupid brawl. Remember Houston 2 years ago?

  • Jason B. from AZ

    c'mon, Marmol!! That fat guy can only do one thing: hit HRs.



    If he is leading off, no need to give him a good pitch to hit...argh.

  • nick

    That is one guy on that team that gets on my nerves.

  • Trevor

    They should just throw at fatty's ginormous head from now on.

  • Neil

    SO-RI-ANO (clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)!!!!!



    5th career off CC

  • nick

    SORIANO!!!!!! That is HUGE!

  • Duas

    Way to tack on!!!

    Soriiii!

  • nick

    Nice job by Cotts and Marmol. Howry, thanks for scaring the crap out of us again.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    eric,

    thanks for the good visual...



    you have to wonder if a guy making $17M a year doesn't think to himself "maybe I will give Hendry $250k if he would dfa Howry...hmmm".

  • Good to see he was on a very short leash tonight... I agree that if he's going to be on the team at all, he needs to get in there for a short test to build some confidence... judging from what he continues to do, my guess is he won't be used at all in the post-season... or at least I hope not.

  • Curt in Chicago (from Dubuque)

    Yay, Howry is gone, good work Lou.

  • Did you see the look on Soriano's face after he caught that almost-homer by Sabathia? Kind of a "Goddammit Howry..." shake of the head.



    I see Demp leaving the stadium with Howry's head on a platter.

  • agustin rexach

    Eric, this move adds to your point.

  • Matt Haggard

    Im kinda hoping for Howry...



    Be a nice way to build confidence.



    We have this division wrapped up.

  • PLEASE LET IT BE COTTS COMING IN...

  • nick

    I hope he is just a decoy.

  • Neil

    Why is Howry warming up?

  • nick

    Is that Howry really warming up!?!?

  • agustin rexach

    Wake up bats...take care of buisness.

  • Neil

    Dempster got out of it, but man is he done for the night. All of those strikeouts ran up his pitch count.



    The offense needs to get to work. Leaving thi team hanging around. Another run or two might do it.

  • Rob

    umm...why is Demp still in there?...112 pitches is enough..especially since it's only the 6th..use the good pen

  • nick

    Great play by Johnson. Our defense has been great lately.

  • GaryLeeT

    Damn, fat boy ruined my "best 3 games ever played in Cub's history" cry.

  • Neil

    Great catch by Reed!

  • agustin rexach

    Wow Reed!

  • Eric

    This is not one of Lou's shining managerial moments...

  • Matt Haggard

    You serious?



    I mean, I agree. I'd send it too. But you open the door to get made fun of when you throw such a huge deal about that. Especially when you throw a big deal about it and then go into the tank soon afterwards.



    Its fair game.

  • Duas

    Matt...let's not make fun of that...anybody would have sent a DVD of that controversial play to MLB...so close to a no hitter

  • Matt Haggard

    I guess the Brewers will send a DVD to MLB of that DP too, now..

  • Neil

    Time to tack on.

  • nick

    Good job of getting out of that Dempster!! How about a few more runs here.

  • Wow, did we need that!



    In reference to earlier Q's... think Demp is done for the night?



    As long as they don't give Howry the ball...

  • Duas

    5-3 Double Play!!!!

  • Neil

    Solid play by Aramis.

  • Rob

    Time for the bullpen..and i mean the good bullpen.

  • Duas

    I like Derosa's shoes...oh and his catch too

  • Rob

    Ramirez on 2nd and 0 outs. Gotta find a way to get him in. Can't let up on the Brewers.

  • nick

    Nice play DeRo!!

  • Neil

    What a catch by DeRo....

  • baron

    There is no point keeping Dempster in the game beyond 85-90 pitches... Enough to keep him fresh, and not enough to cause any potential issues....



    The division is basically tied up... might as well test some of our bull-pen question marks tonight in a relatively close game....

  • Matt Haggard

    Notice how CC has dominated everyone but the Cubs?



    We beat him up in his first start against us.

  • nick

    RAMIREZ with the Double. Let's keep taking it on.

  • Neil

    ARAMIS!!! Big 2-RBI double. 107 RBI's on the season.

  • Matt Haggard

    Lets make him get reckless*



    And we have!

  • Trevor

    Fortunately Rob, our bullpen should be well rested!!



    And it is very good to see Lee getting back to his normal self. His power decline has been odd since the break. Didn't he lead the league with HR's at 15 or so early in the season??



    As for Fontenot v. Cedeno. I think Mike brings more power obviously but I think RC has more range. I'm comfortable with either of them getting the spot start or coming in off the bench.

  • nick

    He is in the Zone right now, that is great to see.

  • Matt Haggard

    Luckily the bullpen hasnt worked at all lately, eh?



    Good AB Ryan!



    CC has to irked. Thats make him get reckless.

  • Rob

    Bad news..Dempster has thrown 62 pitches through 3 innings. Not a good rate.



    Sabathia just got to 30.



    Hopefully Demp can make his next 30 - 40 pitches really count.

  • Neil

    Baron...right on.



    DLEEE!!!!

  • nick

    Even our outs are being hit hard tonight.

  • baron

    where are all the D.Lee Haters now?



    If you call the bad, call the good too!

  • nick

    DLEE is heating up at the right time. Nice lead off Double by Sori.

  • Matt Haggard

    Thats a good Robin Yount story.

  • Matt Haggard

    Hot damn!



    Its Milo Hamilton...



    Or is it?!?!



    How's your heart, buddy?

  • Stan

    Drew,

    Not sure why you say RC has better fielding than ScrappyDoo; can you clarify? Also, Scrappy has a nice .294 average.

  • Drew

    His reason being Cedeno hits lefties better than Fontenot and not to mention he's a better defender. RC Cola is probably not an everyday player but for a guy who bats .280 (over .300 since the break) off the bench and can play above average defense at SS and 2B he sure does get a bad rap.

  • Milo Hamilton

    Holy Toledo! The Land of Oz Oswalt is getting rocked in front of 500 fans in South Florida, Fish up 4-0 in the first, still batting with 2 on and 2 out. I wish I was still doing Cubs games...

  • Stan

    Not a bad lineup except for Cedeno at 2B. Lou must have some reason for giving this guy so many chances. I would like to see ScrappyDoo Fontenot starting at 2B.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Soto - C

    DeRosa - RF

    Johnson - CF

    Cedeno - 2B

    Dempster - P

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