Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Cardinals - 09/11/08

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Game One Hundred Forty-Six: Cubs (87-58) vs. Cardinals (78-67)
Game Time - 7:15pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 189
Location - Busch Stadium, St. Louis

Rich Harden (9-2, 1.99/1.05 - 4-1, 2.02/1.00) vs. Todd Wellemeyer (12-6, 3.74/1.22)

Updated - 5:10pm C.T. - Both the Friday and Saturday Games in Houston have been postponed according to multiple reports. There has not been a decision made on Sunday's game or when the two games will be made up.

Updated - 6:44pm C.T. - Jim Hendry stated on the Cubs pre-game show that the MLB office will have a neutral site worked out by Friday if the storm stays on its current path. They are hoping to play a day-night doubleheader on Sunday in Houston and use Monday's off day for the third game of the series. Hendry mentioned several times the game of baseball takes a backseat to the weather hitting the area. The Cubs will workout on Saturday at Wrigley and will fly out to a city on Saturday night. With using Monday as a make-up day, the Cubs last off day of the season will be Saturday.

As the Cubs prepare to play the Cardinals for the last time in St. Louis this season, the Brewers open up a 4-game series in Philadelphia and the Astros will finish their 4-game series against the Pirates in Houston. The Cubs-Astros game on Friday could be moved up from a 7:05pm C.T. start time to 1:00pm C.T. because of Hurricane Ike. Another scenario that has been reported is the Cubs and Astros playing the weekend series at Busch Stadium with the Cardinals on the road in Pittsburgh....stay tuned.

Rich Harden will make his first start since August 29th, 13 long days and a lot of struggles for the Cubs. Tonight, like the remaining 17 games, is an important game. The Cubs need a solid outing from Rich Harden in the rubber game of the series against Todd Wellemeyer....and to win back-to-back games for the first time since August 28th and August 29th.

Rich Harden gave the Cubs rotation a big lift when he came over from Oakland back in July and between his absence, the struggles and the injury to Carlos Zambrano, the rotation could use another 'pick-me-up' starting tonight. Harden has shown how dominant he can be when healthy and this is a big start for both him and the Cubs.

The last time Harden took the mound he struggled with his command and velocity. Harden received a no decision and the Cubs won on a home run in the 7th inning by Alfonso Soriano. Harden struck out 5 but walked 4 and quickly ran up his pitch count. Harden was nasty in his start before against the Nationals and tied a career high with 11 strikeouts in 7 strong innings without a walk....1 run on 2 hits.

Harden was 3-0 in 5 starts in August with a 1.82 ERA and a 0.91 WHIP while holding batters to a .163 batting average. At night this season, when Harden likes to pitch, he is 6-1 in 11 starts with a 1.45 ERA, a 0.86 WHIP and a .157 OBA.

Harden must keep the ball down and not give the Cardinals power hitters a chance to score runs with one swing of the bat. He has allowed 6 home runs since coming to the Cubs but also has 75 strikeouts in just 49 innings.

Harden is 0-1 in 1 career start against the Cardinals with a 4.26 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP....a 6-2 loss in St. Louis on June 16, 2004. Edgar Renteria and Reggie Sanders did most of the damage.

  • Adam Kennedy - 7-for-22 with 3 walks
  • Jason LaRue - 0-for-2
  • Felipe Lopez - 1-for-3 with a double
  • Yadier Molina - 0-for-1 with 2 walks
  • Josh Phelps - 1-for-4 with a double and a walk
  • Albert Pujols - 0-for-3

The Cubs will get another shot at Todd Wellemeyer tonight. The former Cub has put together an excellent season in the Cardinals' rotation. Wellemeyer is coming off a solid outing against the Marlins and allowed 3 runs on 5 hits in season-high 8 innings of work with 7 strikeouts and a walk.

Wellemeyer was 3-2 in 6 starts last month with a 2.58 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP while allowing just a .213 OBA. At Busch Stadium this season, 8-5 in 15 games with a 4.57 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP....nearly two more runs per 9 innings allowed at home compared to on the road (2.87 with a 1.03 WHIP).

Tonight will be Wellemeyer's fourth start of the season against the Cubs. He is 2-1 with a 4.32 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP in the first three games....a 5-3 victory over the Cubs on May 4th, a 7-1 loss on July 6th in St. Louis and a 12-3 win against Carlos Zambrano on August 9th at Wrigley.

  • Mark DeRosa - 3-for-7 with a home run
  • Jim Edmonds - 0-for-7
  • Mike Fontenot - 2-for-4 with a double
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 0-for-4
  • Reed Johnson - 4-for-10 with a double
  • Derrek Lee - 2-for-9
  • Aramis Ramirez - 3-for-6 with a double
  • Alfonso Soriano - 1-for-7
  • Geovany Soto - 1-for-7 with a double
  • Ryan Theriot - 3-for-7 with 2 walks

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • JimK

    I got to hear only the 9th. Pat was excited. I thought Santo would die. ThenPujols popped out to DeRo with runners on. Anything else happen? Oh yeah, Brewers lose. Never a doubt!!!!

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    CUBS WIN WUBS WIN!!!!!! Don't have to look pretty.....back up to 5.5 lead!!! Magic Number 11!! Couple days of rest....and let's go!!! I agree with an earlier post that D. Lee should drop down in the order the rest of the year.....I'm good with D-Ro in the 3 hole....

  • Neil

    WOW!!! Huge win!!!!

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Trevor

    Whew..A win is a win. And a series win against the redbirds is always something to celebrate. Not to mention the Brewers lost.



    Goin' to bed happy.

  • Matt Haggard

    Dear God...



    I can't take this..



    Phew. Good to win a series.

  • nick

    CUBS WIN!!!!



    Another close one, but we will take it!

  • Michael

    YES! HUGE WIN! Two days without games is going to be rough. 11!

  • baron

    Phew -- GG!

  • GaryLeeT

    If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it is the player that will hit a weak grounder to the left side with RISP.

  • agustin rexach

    Hysteria time my friends. Let's go Wood!



    *nice to see Theriot go back the other way, he had been pulling.

  • Michael

    D almost appears sluggish or lethargic at the plate lately, seems to have lost lots of confidence. I wish something could get him going. Lets go Kerry.

  • Trevor

    Perfect time for a symbolic slump busting hit.

  • Michael

    Big at bat for D-Lee after a frustrating last plate appearance, lets go D!

  • nick

    Hey Fellas,



    That was some darn good defense. Now, how about a couple runs here.

  • Matt Haggard

    Phew..

  • agustin rexach

    wowowowowowowowowowowow! Soriano huge!! Fuku huge! and a great strikeout there!

    If this can't pump em up what will????

  • Trevor

    Sori and Fuk saved the win for at least one more inning.



    Please, please, score some *!@! runs this inning so I (along with many of the faithful), don't have to white knuckle the davenport.

  • GaryLeeT

    Man the anxiety. Latley I am thinking, "OK lets just get this loss over with" Its like I have lost all confidence in the people that were once rock solid.

  • Trevor

    WHAT A CATCH!

  • GaryLeeT

    The Cubs have only scored more than 4 runs twice in the last 12 games. That is a worrisome trend.

  • Neil

    Soriano dove? Great catch.....

  • Trevor

    Nice effort and play by Soriano! That would have tied the game if he missed that one.

  • Trevor

    Are the Cubs trying to set a record for the most consecutive balks? This is just silly.

  • Bryan

    Now don't let Pujols beat us.

  • agustin rexach

    We really need Sr.Nasty to show up. Poor guy his arm is going to fall off.

  • Neil

    Trevor...he should be available. Only 3 outings this month.

  • Trevor

    We really need to keep putting runs on the board. Our late inning pitching has been shaky to say the least lately. Is Wood even available tonight?

  • Neil

    LET'S GO OFFENSE, LET'S GO (clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)!!!!!

  • GaryLeeT

    The 3 runs the Cubs have, will not win this game.

  • Neil

    Time to tack on....top of the order due up.

  • agustin rexach

    I'll gladly eat some crow.



    Bad time to give a free pass to Miles. Comon' Harden finish this inning with no further damage.

  • Bryan

    Brewers just lost (Sheets the L) 6-3.

  • Neil

    DeRosa and Little Babe Ruth!!!!

  • Duas

    Finally!!!

  • GaryLeeT

    I am campaigning for DeRosa to hit 3rd.

  • Neil

    LET'S GO OFFENSE, LET'S GO (clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)!!!!!

  • Neil

    It's now an official game.

  • Duas

    we did score 2 runs but without any hits in that inning...why can't we HIT with RISP???

  • GaryLeeT

    Are you kidding me? Wellemeyer walks 3 in the inning then Lee and Ramirez swing at his first pitch? This offense is really concerning me.

  • agustin rexach

    In Neil's recap words...To say that DLee is strugglin' would be an understatement. Men I'll take the great atbat by Theriot but this guys could'nt hit safely with RISP even if it were in self defense.

  • Neil

    Why in the world did Lee and Ramirez both swing at the first pitches? Wellemeyer walked 3 in the inning....

  • Duas

    Theriot has got to get it done...b/c we all know DLEE wont

  • Duas

    I would rather not have the bases loaded...

  • agustin rexach

    I hear you Gary but a split between the Phils and Brewers will do...If the Cubs can win the 2 the Brewers loose.

  • Duas

    seems that we still haven't come out of our offensive slump...



    I think just a month or so ago...someone said how this year's team is very good at getting that run in from 3rd base with less than 2 outs...But these last two weeks..seems we forgot how to do that...and it always come back to haunt us

  • GaryLeeT

    Because the Cubs have games against everybody in the wildcard chase except the Phillies, I am rooting for the Brewers to beat them.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    I never thought that I would say this:

    Derek Lee has turned himself into a subpar offensive first baseman.

  • Bryan

    Sports Radio reports here in Atlanta in the last hour have stated that the league office has been exploring the Cubs/Stros playing here this weekend. I can imagine 20,000 Cubs fans showing up for that.



    Also, Phils leading the BrewCrew 4-3. Phils have had Sheets in trouble each inning. They have 3 more games this weekend, and they won't see CC at all, so Phils should look good at home. Time for the Cubs to virtually put a nail to the Brewers coffin this weekend.



    Go Cubs...hopefully in Atlanta.

  • GaryLeeT

    Wow! Lee's nonclutchness is stunning.

  • Neil

    Good start, bad ending to the 1st.



    Lee's strikeout changed the inning, would have liked to see less full swings and just trying to make contact.

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    Well....I think it's all a good thing.....gives the Cubs a couple days of extra rest...so though we lose our off day Monday....we really gain two back to back days....Perhaps we can playu a DH on Sunday and postpone the last game to be played if necessary....



    I understand not moving the series....families come first. The Houston players should be allowed to be there with theirs who are there. I don't blame MLB at all for just postponing things. Especially on a day such as 9/11....I think remembering to put families first is the right thing.

  • Matt Haggard

    Im with you Agustin.



    I want whats best for my team. Not whats worst for my rival.



    Im more of a Cubs fan than a Cardinal hater.



    I would hope the Cardinal fans feel the same about their team.

  • agustin rexach

    nope never been there jim. I know the rivalry though but at this point they need the astros,brewers and phils to lose in order to have a playoff possibility. I guess?

  • Matt Haggard

    Ahh, MLB.



    I can't stay mad at you for long...



    Home and away broadcasts now availiable for mlb.tv.



    Ahh. We're good.

  • Jim

    agustin rexach

    "Cardinals fans would also root for us as they need to sink the stros'"



    You've never been to St. Louis huh?

  • Drew

    For the record the Rangers moved into their current stadium in 1994 not 2004. It's not a craphole but not exactly the top of the line anymore.

  • Matt Haggard

    I meant that as a question, not a statement.



    Who am I to demand stuff, haha.



    Sorry. I'M JUST MAD!

  • Matt Haggard

    Ughh, typical MLB.



    Sit on your hands and do nothing.



    Twiddling their thumbs in their ass.



    Worthless sonsabitches.



    Lets send something to MLB from the CCO.



    Neil, pen something and let the readers sign off.

  • agustin rexach

    Hey we should ply them Bush Stadium...that way we would have Home field advantage being visitors.

    Cub fans easily go there in large mmounts and the Cardinals fans would also root for us as they need to sink the stros'

  • Matt Haggard

    I'm sorry. The Rangers dont play in that crap hole Arlington Stadium. They moved in 2004.



    All the more reason to play there...

  • Matt Haggard

    Yeh, this aint good.



    I can't imagine the Cubs or Stros want to make up doubleheaders.



    Why not play at another field.



    That craphole the Rangers play in?



    Trsut me theres enough Cub and Astro fans to fill that field up.



    This is bad. I dont care for this..

  • bardo

    The problem I see with the postponment is they will have to be made up as double headers which are hard to sweep

  • GaryLeeT

    From all the information I've gathered, Friday and Saturday's games are canceled. The Cubs will play a day/night double header on Sunday and then a single game on Monday.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    If the Cubs do not play the next couple of days, b/c of the hurricane, it could give those aching starters some rest, and allow the team to unwind at home for a few extra days.



    Could actually work out really well for the Cubs.





    Dave from STL,

    Great recap!

  • GaryLeeT

    I went to the Houston Chronicle's web site, and the Astros said the game on Friday has been canceled. There was no more information on how it would be made up. Landfall for Ike is projected to come on Saturday, but the article made no mention of any decisions on that game, but I am guessing that it will be canceled too. I think these games should be played at a nuetral site. I don't like the idea of the Cubs having to squeeze in a couple of games at the end of the year, or play a bunch of double headers, as they try to align things for the playoffs.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup...if the rain stays away:



    Soriano - LF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    DeRosa - RF

    Fontenot - 2B

    Soto - C

    Johnson - CF

    Harden - P

  • Dave in STL

    OK.. news from Busch... Last night, the Lilly collision caused much heartache and nastiness from Deadbird fans, it was awesome! The "Bulldog" put the heat on the Deadbirds - inciting the crowd and pumping up the Cub fans. The throw from Soriano was awesome! I also thought Pie had cut down a guy @ 3rd, but Theriot cut the throw off, hey Riot, that's not Edmonds out there! Keep waiving your runners on singles to left... the Fonz will keep throwing guys out..huge momentum saver there Fonz. Also, the pitch inside to Lilly after the collision was really a non issue, though classless by Tony LaRussa, not unexpected, but classless. He's a bonehead! In regards Neil to the keys for Harden.. keeping the ball down is important only to Poopholes & Ludwick. W/out Glaus or Ankiel in the lineup, the Deadbirds are totally weak outside of the two aforementioned sluggers. The rest of the Deadbird lineup couldn't muscle one out if you served it on a hoagie, they are really that weak... Pitch hard, work quickly, and take advantage of runners on are my keys tonight...I'll be watching from the 3rd base line...& as always... GO CUBS GO! we need another win!

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