Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Reds - 08/19/08

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Game One Hundred Twenty-Five: Cubs (76-48) vs. Reds (55-70)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 184
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Rich Harden (7-2, 2.17/1.12, 2-1, 1.80/1.27) vs. Johnny Cueto (8-11, 4.90/1.39)

Following a very successful road trip and a well-earned day off, their last until September 4th, the Cubs return to work today against Dusty Baker and the new-look Cincinnati Reds. Adam Dunn is now in the desert, Ken Griffey, Jr. is on the South Side and the Cubs will not face Edinson Volquez in this series....and with all of that out of the way, Lou Piniella's crew must not take this team for granted. The Reds always play the Cubs tough and the next 9 games are just as important as the last 9 games.

The Cubs face the Reds, Nationals and Pirates before welcoming the Phillies to Wrigley on August 28th....the next time they play a team with a winning record. Of the Cubs remaining 38 games, 19 are at home and 26 are against teams with at least a .500 record. The only team they face with a losing record in September are these same Reds at Great American, September 5th - September 7th. Playoff teams beat teams they are supposed to beat....and that stretch starts today. But if the players relax, they will be embarrassed in front of the home crowd.

Dusty Baker's first season in the Queen City has not gone as planned and according to a report from Jayson Stark on ESPN.com, he has begun pointing fingers in his prior GM's direction. Stark picked up on a quote from Hal McCoy in the Dayton Daily News....

"I have never wanted to win more than I do right here, and I will. But this is Wayne Krivsky's team, not Walk Jocketty's and not mine. I just hope there is enough out there after the season that we can get to help us out."

As Barry Rozner recently stated, "In Lou, you do trusty."

After missing the road trip to Atlanta and Miami, Ron Santo is expected back in the booth with Pat Hughes tonight....

Rich Harden will make his first start since struggling with his command in the second game of the day-night doubleheader last Wednesday in Atlanta. Harden missed high all night, walked a season-high 5 batters, ran up his pitch count and left after 5 innings. Harden picked up his second win in a Cubs' uniform and did not allow a run while striking out 2. Even Harden at his worst is possibly better than most.

Harden will need to keep the ball down tonight and not give the Reds any help. They will be looking to knock off the first place Cubs and if he can keep them on their heels the inexperience of Dusty Baker's roster will take over....but the opposite will apply if Harden struggles with his command and gives up early runs.

Harden is 3-0 in 11 starts in his home park (both in Chicago and in Oakland) with a 2.04 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP.

Harden has not been as sharp of late and maybe pitching to contact is not the best game plan for the talented right hander. When on and in the strike zone, Harden is plan nasty and the Cubs should just let him pitch....but just crank up the pen around the 6th inning. In 30 innings with the Cubs (6 starts), Harden has 49 strikeouts and only 14 walks.

Tonight will be the second time Harden has faced the Reds in his career....but his last start against the Redlegs came against a very different team back on June 9, 2004. Harden beat the Reds and allowed 5 runs, 4 earned, on 6 hits with 8 strikeouts and 3 walks in 5 1/3 innings. The Reds' lineup included such names as Sean Casey, Ken Griffey, Jr., Ryan Freel, Adam Dunn and Jason LaRue.

Less than a hand-full of Dusty Baker's bunch has faced Harden....

  • Jolbert Cabrera - 1-for-3
  • Andy Phillips - no official at bat, 1 walk
  • Javier Valentin - 1-for-3

The Cubs will get their third look of the season at Johnny Cueto. After a solid outing and win against Chicago at the Great American Ballpark on May 5th (3 runs on 6 hits with 8 strikeouts and 2 walks in 6 innings), Cueto was not as sharp at Wrigley on July 9th and lost 5-1 after allowing 5 runs, 4 earned, on 8 hits with 6 strikeouts and 2 walks in 6 2/3 innings. Cueto was very sharp early on but the Cubs kept pecking away, ran up his pitch count and scored 4 of the 5 runs in the 6th and 7th innings. Cueto is 1-1 versus the Cubs with a 4.97 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP.

The Cubs offense must make him work tonight, and like the rest of the roster, do not help Cueto gain any confidence.

Cueto is coming off a win against the Pirates and allowed 1 run on 4 hits in 5 innings with 7 strikeouts and 3 walks. Cueto has not pitched past the 6th inning since July 3rd and not into the 6th inning in his last two starts.

Cueto is 3-8 in 12 starts on the road this season with a 5.29 ERA and a 1.52 WHIP while teams have hit an even .300 against him. In his last 3 starts, Cueto is 1-1 with a 3.94 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP.

  • Mark DeRosa - 0-for-5
  • Jim Edmonds - 0-for-3
  • Mike Fontenot - 0-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 2-for-7 with a double
  • Reed Johnson - 1-for-3
  • Derrek Lee - 2-for-6
  • Aramis Ramirez - 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Alfonso Soriano - 1-for-3
  • Geovany Soto - 3-for-5 with a double and a home run
  • Ryan Theriot - 4-for-7 with a double

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • bardo

    There goes the neighborhood

    Go Cubs!!!!!

  • Jason B. from AZ

    JOET,

    ARE YOU SURE GOD WANTS YOU TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS?

  • Joe S. (San Diego)

    CUBS WIN....BREWERS LOSE AND CARDINALS LOSE



    CUBS ----

    BREWERS 6

    CARDINALS 8.5



    WOOOO HOOOOO



    TIED FOR BEST RECORD IN MLB WITH TAMPA BAY



    1 WIN SHY OF BEING TIED WITH TAMPA BAY FOR BEST HOME RECORD IN MLB



    .500 RECORD ON THE ROAD



    LARGEST DIVISION LEAD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ANGELS



    FOLKS.....ITS TIME......LETS ENJOY THE COUNTDOWN......



    MAGIC NUMBER IS 31

  • JOET

    JIMK, I AM PREACHING THE GOSPEL TO EVERY CREATURE LIKE MARK 16:15 SAYS. WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY HERE IS A CHRISTIAN. IF CCO HAS A PROBLEM WITH THIS MESSAGE, THEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BIBLE. I'VE BEEN CHANGED SINCE JULY 27TH. NORTHWESTERN U. SPORTS AND CUBS BASEBALL ARE GOOD TO FOLLOW, BUT THEY WON'T TAKE US INTO HEAVEN. JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE AND NO MAN ENTERS HEAVEN, BUT BY JESUS.



    I HAVEN'T STOPPED SINCE THEN, I'M NOT STOPPING NOW. WE SHOULD PRAY AND GIVE GOD THANKS FOR BESTOWING US WITH HIS MIGHTY BLESSINGS. I REGRET USING FOUL LANGUAGE LIKE I DID, WHEN I POSTED IN JUNE.



    PLEASE ANYBODY, IF YOU LIKE TO I'LL SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU AT JOET@BELLSOUTH.NET



    JUST LET ME KNOW, SO I CAN TELL YOU!

  • JimK

    Brewers and Cards both lose. Cubs up another game in the Central.



    JOET, Someone(s) has to say it. And I a believer and a blessed person in the same faith experience as you espouse encurage you to cease using CCO as your pulpit. You (and I) don't have a pupit on CCO.



    Share your message in gatherings for that purpose and with those who seek it elsewhere. On CCO, assume that others have and pursue a faith tradition that is equal to your own. And with your study and experience, may you grow in your faith and wisdom.

  • JOET

    O SING UNTO THE LORD A NEW SONG; FOR HE HATH DONE MARVELLOUS THINGS: HIS RIGHT HAND, AND HIS HOLY ARM, HATH GOTTEN HIM THE VICTORY. -PSALM 98:1



    FOR AS THE HEAVEN IS HIGH ABOVE THE EARTH, SO GREAT IS HIS MERCY TOWARD THEM THAT FEAR HIM. -PSALM 103:11



    HE CAUSETH THE GRASS TO GROW FOR THE CATTLE, AND HERB FOR THE SERVICE OF MAN: THAT HE MAY BRING FORTH FOOD OUT OF THE EARTH; AND WINE THAT MAKETH GLAD THE HEART OF MAN, AND OIL TO MAKE HIS FACE TO SHINE, AND BREAD WHICH STRENGTHENETH MAN'S HEART. -PSALM 104:14-15



    LET US PRAY, CCO FAMILY.



    DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TOGETHER TO PRAISE YOU FOR YOUR HOLY KINDNESS THAT YOU POURED UPON MAN. LET US STAY TOGETHER IN ONE MIND AND ONE ACCORD, WORSHIPPING THE TRUE GOD. MAY YOU BE OUR PEACE THROUGH TROUBLING TIMES. PROTECT OUR SOLDIERS IN IRAQ. LET THEM FEEL YOUR HOLY GHOST WITH FIRE. WE ASK IN YOUR FATHER'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST. A-MEN AND A-MEN.



    NEIL, I SEE YOUR GIFT BEING USED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF CUBS FANS EVERYONE. WE ARE HIGHLY SOCIABLE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. WE WILL PRAISE GOD IN VICTORY AND WE WILL PRAISE GOD IN DEFEAT.



    WOW! BOTH CHICAGO TEAMS WERE 5-0 HOME VICTORS. HOW BIZARRE IS THAT! (REDS 0 CUBS 5;MARINERS 0 WHITE SOX 5)



    GO NORTHWESTERN WILDCATS AND CHICAGO CUBS!

  • JimK

    There's no joy in it, but Gallagher gave up 10 runs in 5 IP tonight against the Twins. JH's Haden and Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, EPat and Donaldson looks very very good.

  • Keith Moreland

    This stretch is it. We have 2 more against the Reds, and 3 against the woeful Nats. We can bury the division right now with a 5-1 home stand.



    The Brewers have to be bummed. They have played absolutely great lately, and have lost ground. Because we ROCK!!!!!

  • JimK

    After 8, Brewers still trail Astros by 3 and Cards still train Pirates by 1. And we get to play the Reds again tomorrow. Keep on keeping on Blue!!!

  • GaryLeeT

    Another late inning croked number leaves little doubt as to what the outcome would be.

    I loved Neil's Dusty quote. Dusty is such an ass. He says this is not his team, but we know he personally had the Reds bring in losers Patterson and Bako.

  • Matt Haggard

    Amazing pitching performance and timely hitting.



    I love it.

  • nick

    Go Cubs Go, Go Cubs Go, Hey Chicago what do ya Say that Cubs are going to win today.



    Great pitching tonight, 13 K's, 3 hits, and 0 walks!

  • JimK

    Great pitching and timely hitting late. A little more tense early than I would like, but I nibbled no nails.

  • Duas

    DeRo and D-Lee were tied with 71 RBI's going into today's game?! Wow...

  • nick

    Keppinger is a pain in the ars.

  • Neil

    Kosuke with the big single....nice at bat.

  • Duas

    Way to go Fuk!

    What a great ballgame...a pitcher's duel until the 7th inning...and now a great offensive display...2 in 1

  • GaryLeeT

    Aus,

    Dempster has had his injury issues too. He's proven that they can be put in the past. If the Cubs win a WS, Dempster might give a hometown discount. If he is willing to go for something around 13 to 14 mil per, they might get something done. Also, the sale of the team is kind of a wild card in all this too.

  • JimK

    Tonight could be especially big. Brewers trail Houston by 3 in the 7th and Cards trail by 1.

  • nick

    Make it hurt Fuku!!!

  • JimK

    Finally some offense and a crooked number. Lee and Aram with RBI's. Maybe we can get a couple more and rest K. Wood tonight.

  • Neil

    LEE and RAMIREZ!!!



    Hey Gary, Harden is under contract for next season. They have plenty of time to work on that. With that said, I think Dempster will stay.

  • nick

    Ramirez!!

  • nick

    There you Lee!!!

  • Aus

    Not a chance in hell they let Dempster go and invest multiple years in Harden. He is exactly the type of guy who you want on a year-to-year basis with his risk of injury. They will sign Dempster and see how Harden pitches next year.



    Geico Insurance runs!! courtesy of D-Lee!

  • nick

    Come on lets get a few here!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Dont you think Demp will give us a considerable discount?



    Remember we brought him in and resurrected his career - post Tommy John.

  • GaryLeeT

    Looking forward to next season, I think the Cubs will have to let Dempster go, and dedicate his money to a Harden extension. I feel very comfortable with Samardzija and Marshall taking Dempster and Marquis' starting positions.

  • Neil

    LET'S GO OFFENSE, LET'S GO (clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)!!!!!

  • JimK

    Above should be Harden threw, but now he is through as Lou pinch hits. Our offense was no where to be found in the bottom of the 7th. Be Strong Marmol!

  • Neil

    Great outing by Harden. 10 strikeouts, no walks on 94 pitches.

  • JimK

    Harden through 95--96 to get Votto for the third out. It sure would be nice to have 2 or 3 runs on the board. Come on offense!!!

  • nick

    Come on now, how about a few more runs!!

    Great Job by Harden tonight!

  • JimK

    Double for Lee. Let's get him home!!

  • JimK

    Harden seemed to lose some effectiveness in the 6th and may have gotten a break on the checked swing strike out. Be strong, pen!

  • Lew

    Wow, can't sing Soto's praises enough.

    Great hustle on the triple! Great base running! Great young player!

  • JimK

    Gift runs accepted. Thank you Bakko and Encarnacion for ignoring Soto coming down the line on Harden's bunt.

  • nick

    Andy, I agree. I hate that look almost worse than that baggy look that some of the brewers wear.

  • agustin rexach

    Hey Guys!



    SOTO SOTO SOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!Hustle=Gio!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Cool Runnings Soto!

  • Andy Pintino

    Dusty should get after Cueto about wearing his hat cocked off to the side like he does. He looks even worse than Sabathia!



    Great bunt Harden!

  • nick

    Nice job Harden.

  • nick

    Now come on, let's get that run in!! Nice job Soto!

  • Neil

    Very quick game....bottom of the 5th only a little over an hour.

  • JimK

    Harden and Cueto are bringing it tonight. Not capitalizing on a couple of runners in scoring position with one out is looking large right now. Happily, our D showed up tonight with Dome and Lee.

  • Neil

    They are leaving this team hanging around....third straight inning they put a runner in scoring position and could not drive him in.

  • JimK

    OK, no more base running screwups. We can get a couple runs in the 4th.

  • Matt Haggard

    Great d Kosuke!

  • nick

    Wow, we screwed ourselves out of that inning. Man that was ugly.

  • Matt Haggard

    Maybe Len read Thomas' work.



    He doesnt seem superstitious. Mentioning the N word.

  • Neil

    Andy, I think that would be a good idea. Lee just seems 'off'.

  • Jeff in Az

    never mind...ouch

  • Jeff in AZ

    Big inning brewing...

  • nick

    Hey Neil.



    Come on Soto!!

  • Andy Pintino

    Neil, what are your thoughts on bringing up Hoffpauir and giving Lee a few days off? He looks like he needs some rest. He's been hitting a lot of weak ground balls.

  • Neil

    Hey Nick....



    Great stat JimK.

  • nick

    Good inning by Harden!! Now, let's jump all over Cueto.

  • nick

    JimK, I will unfortunately be listening to Tom also, being here in Ohio.



    Let's get the W tonight!!

  • JimK

    Both pitchers dominant in the first. Thom B reports that Votto is back from his father's funeral. Votto has killed Cubs pitching this year. Thom also reports that Harden has given up 1 run or less in 40% of his starts over 5 years. I know H has been hurt a lot, but that is an icredible stat.

  • JimK

    I get Fox Sports Net and Tom Breneman (Reds' coverage) tonight here in Indy. I'm hoping we brought Mo with us from the road trip, and that we put up a crooked number early.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Edmonds - CF

    Soto - C

    Fukudome - RF

    DeRosa - 2B

    Harden - P



    Also...the wind is blowing in.

  • Matt Haggard

    Chicago Cubs baseball is back on the air!



    WooHoo!



    I am SO thankful not to have to face that big donkey Adam Dunn. Although I wish his glove was still in the outfield, haha.



    Griff and Dunn both hit off the Cubs well this season and Im thankful to get to face this team while they are young and inexperienced. Because they have some quality guys in that system.



    I feel a win and Rich Harden's best performance of the year.



    Go Cubs!

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