Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Dodgers - 06/08/08

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Game Sixty-Four: Cubs (39-24) vs. Dodgers (30-32)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: ESPN Sunday Night Baseball - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 184
Location - Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles

Jason Marquis (3-3, 5.02/1.66) vs. Brad Penny (5-7, 5.45/1.57)

The Cubs will try to avoid their first 3-game losing streak of the year and in the process post their second winning road trip of the season tonight behind Jason Marquis. Lou Piniella's crew won the first two games of the west coast swing with solid victories over the Padres but have lost three out of the last four. Piniella called Saturday's game "pivotal" in his pre-game show and maybe the way the Cubs lost the game will serve as wake up call to a team that has struggled on the road.

Tonight is the last game of the season against the Dodgers, the Cubs have won 4 of the first 6 after winning only 2 of 7 a year ago....

The Cubs need Jason Marquis to step up tonight and put his team in position to win a ballgame. Marquis will be making his 12th start of the season and of his first 11, only 2 could be classified as quality starts (3 total on the year). Marquis is coming off his worst start....and ironically enough he picked up his third win with a 9-6 victory over the Padres. Marquis has not completed 6 innings of work since he beat the Pirates back on May 18th but his team has won his last two starts.

Marquis is 2-2 in his last 6 starts with a 5.51 ERA and a 1.68 WHIP. He has walked 17 and struck out 17 in 32 2/3 innings.

Tonight will be his 9th career appearance, 8th start, against the Dodgers. Marquis is 2-1 with a 2.25 ERA and a 0.98 WHIP while holding the Dodgers to a .210 batting average. Marquis received a no-decision in the only game he faced the Dodgers last season. He gave up 2 runs on 4 hits in a 7-4 Cubs' loss on September 6th at Wrigley. For his career, Marquis is 1-0 in 3 career starts at Dodger Stadium with a 2.25 ERA and a 0.85 WHIP.

  • Angel Berroa - 0-for-2
  • Andre Ethier - 0-for-6
  • Matt Kemp - 0-for-3
  • Jeff Kent - 8-for-19 with 3 doubles
  • James Loney - 2-for-3 with a double and a home run
  • Russell Martin - 1-for-8
  • Juan Pierre - 7-for-28 with 2 doubles and 2 triples

The Cubs offense will get their first look of the season at Brad Penny. Penny has struggled on the mound for Joe Torre this year....but he's been very good in the past against the Cubs, thanks to Greg Maddux. Penny has not posted a win since May 2nd against the Rockies and his team has lost 5 of his last 6 starts. Penny is walking a lot of batters this year and has been equally as bad at home and on the road. Penny is due to break out of his slump, for the Cubs' sake....hopefully he will wait at least one more start.

Penny is 3-4 in his first 8 starts at Dodger Stadium with a 5.14 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP and has not allowed less than 2 earned runs since April 21st in Cincinnati. In his last 7 starts, 1-5 with a 7.92 ERA and a 1.81 ERA....21 walks and 23 strikeouts in 38 2/3 innings with 49 hits allowed.

Penny is 3-2 in 8 career starts against the Cubs with a 2.42 ERA and a 1.31 WHIP, last season....1-0 with a 1.29 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP, 2 runs, 1 earned, on 7 hits in 7 innings with 3 walks and 2 strikeouts.

  • Ronny Cedeno - 1-for-3
  • Mark DeRosa - 6-for-24
  • Jim Edmonds - 9-for-34 with a double, a home run and 5 walks
  • Derrek Lee - 5-for-11 with 3 doubles
  • Aramis Ramirez - 9-for-23 with a double
  • Alfonso Soriano - 1-for-7
  • Ryan Theriot - 2-for-5 with a double

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

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  • agustin rexach

    Great win to finish the road trip with a winning record! Props to Marquis,Marmol and Kerry. Kerry looked dominant and a big part of closing is intimidation and self confidence...Kerry build a little of both tonight! Cubs win



    Amazing how a Cubs win can make the weekend right!

  • Joe S (San Diego)

    Great Cubs Win......Marquis pullde one out of his rear end. Trade now while value is high!! lol



    I see all this chat about Peter Gammons mentioning Randy Wolf as a possible trade....hmmmmm....I think you heard that name a week or so ago from someone who lives here in San Diego!! lol



    Hey a 4-3 road trip....very nice!! Now we go back home for a quick 3 against the Braves who are awful on paper on the road...7-21!! Although they also just got swept at home by Philly. As I mentionde earlier...we should avoid Chipper for some or all of the series due to his slight muscle tear in his leg.

  • JimK

    Everyone who took the "Under" have another piece of pie. The Cubs played like champs tonight. It has to be the baseball gods who make predictions in baseball so tough. As the lady night is rumored to say, "It was a business doing pleasure with you tonight!"

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!



    (Thank God, I din't want Neil's recap to read

    "To Live and Die in L.A.")

  • Neil

    Matt...GREAT call on Marquis tonight!!

  • Trevor

    That was just an all around good game for the Cubs, and I think a very important one. VERY nice work by Kerry in the 9th and thank you Marquis for showing up tonight and pitching like you are capable.

  • cliff

    Hawk and Joe Morgan gave me more reasons to dislike them today:



    Hawk - He and DJ were talking about how great white sox fans were for coming out to ball games even though they have had bad weather on most every homestand. Hawk went on to say that the reason being is because the Cubs were out of town and when they were to come back to Chicago it would be great weather again. I guess Mother Nature is a Cubs fan. Unbelievable.



    Joe Morgan - Anybody watching the game tonight must have heard Joe Morgan's story about fishing and the "trivia" question he and Franco discussed. Who is/was the most consistent hard line drive hitter of all time? When asked Jon Miller said Dave Winfield and was told he was "wrong" on a question of opinion. Jon Miller went on to ask Morgan if he answered "correctly" and of course Morgan said yes. The "correct" answer was Al Oliver.

  • JimK

    Carlos is allowing base runners, so K Wood won't have to face the heart of the Dodgers order.

  • Trevor

    please no Kent. C'mon Marmol!!!

  • Drew

    Exactly what we needed out of Marquis! Good to see D-Lee showing why he's a gold glover!

  • JimK

    That DLee to Marmol play for the third out sent chills up my arms. We're playing ball tonight.

  • Neil

    Derrek Lee may not be bringing the lumber to the park lately but WOW, what a play to save at least 1 run and get out of the jam!!!!



    LET'S GO OFFENSE, LET'S GO!!!!

  • agustin rexach

    I hate kent mercker...I know its kind of

    late but I just realized he ran Steve Stone

    out with the crying Dusty. I miss him.



    Tough 7th for Jason. ... Good job any way.

  • Neil

    Hey Nick!

  • nick

    What's up fellas,



    Good to see Marquis going deep in the game.

  • JimK

    Lou should take Marquis out now that Martin is on. LA need to see a different look.







  • Cory

    I can't wait to get the heck outta LA and away from these sh***y umps! My God they are frustrating!

  • JimK

    I'm with Neil. I don't want a nail biter.

  • Dorasaga

    Marquis looks bigger than life tonight. We deserve a 14-16 road record after so many one-run losses.



    About Randy Wolf, the southpaw is good. I've been following him since my Fantasy league lacks ace pitching (well, any league lacks ace pitching nowadays in North America, moreso a fantasy one).



    Wolf strikes alot, walks less than average, and doesn't really give up any homeruns. His FIP (or DIPS, whichever tweak you take) reflects those. Why the high ERA? Bad luck.



    Wolf pitched more on road and less at home this season, and we know how Petco saves a pitcher. I don't know would the Cubs defense in whole help Wolf more or not, because the Padres has a really good defensive team.

  • Neil

    Let's Go Offense, Let's Go!!

  • JimK

    Marquis finds an occasional acorn too. 2 hits in 5 innings. Congrats Jason. Get us through 1 more, and Lou will have the pen ready.

  • Neil

    JimK, you are right. The top of the 5th was good to see. Even Lee's out was productive.

  • JimK

    Soriano leads off and reaches base. DeRo and Lee hit 2nd pitches for hits. Cubs score. Aram adds RBI double on pitch 4. Any questions? (like the blind hog, even I find an occasional acorn.)

  • JimK

    In the first 4, our leadoff man is out and the 2nd man reaches base. We need leadoff guys on base. Penny seems to throw a very hittable second pitch, and we are taking most of them. Let's tee off on two.

  • Neil

    Lee's last at bat might serve as an indication he is not seeing the ball too well right now.

  • JimK

    A hit by Soriano, and we would have played an excellent inning. A walk, a hit and a sacrifice bunt by the bottom third--that's good baseball.

  • Trevor

    Alright RC! Nice shot.

  • Trevor

    DeRosa has to knock the ball down on Soto's throw.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Jim K:



    Of the 3 names Gammons mentioned, I like Burnett.

  • JimK

    Jim T.P., I like that Gamomons thinks we'll add a good starter. Joe Morgan just said that the Cubs could end their 100 year drought with a little help this year. Here's to a Cubs win tonight and some roster help as needed.



  • Neil

    DeRosa!! Number 8 on the year

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Prediction? Pain.



    Marquis goes 5.1 gives up six runs, Penny goes 7 and gives up two.

  • Neil

    Jim...yes I did. I still think Burnett is a bad idea. Wolf is interesting but both have a history of injury.



    Gil Meche, would he be an improvement? I have not looked yet.

  • agustin rexach

    Sorry for the aditional [and] and the spelling.



    Any way...I'm excited! Its rally cap night!!!

  • agustin rexach

    Just for the sake of it...I say Under.

    Marquis will pitch a solid 6+ innings 1 earned run and the L.Rothschild and decide to stick with him for the rest of the season! eeeuuuw.



    Hey great stuff there said by Gammonds about maybe Meche or Burnett!

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Neil:



    Did you happen to hear Peter Gammons on Baseball tonight? Cubs might go after Burnett, Meche, or Wolf.

  • Drew

    I like the lineup tonight but I'm ready to see Fuku in the 2 hole

  • Drew

    I like the game Jim but the actually over/under is 9 which I feel would be more realistic especially with 2 struggling pitchers on the mound. I'm still taking the over though. I'm predicting a 7-5 Cubbie victory!

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    DeRosa - 2B

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Fukudome - RF

    Soto - C

    Edmonds - CF

    Cedeno - SS

    Marquis - P



    JimK....over 7, but just barely 8-9.

  • Mike D

    Oh yeah, and thanks to Aaron for the Sabathia info yesterday. Given his size I can see how he could rake the ball, I just figured he would be a bit awkward at the plate. I love, repeat LOVE the idea of Big Z and CC at the top of our rotation. Regardless of the potential price of a long-term deal for Sabathia, a World Series ring is priceless.....

  • Mike D

    Over by 6 at least :)



    Marquis is a joke every time out nowadays. He fooled me for a few months early last year and I thought maybe the move north helped him, but I was wrong. I remember 2-3 years ago when the Cardinals seemed to stomp us every time out I used to love seeing Marquis starting for STL, That was always a game I could chalk up as a "W" for the Cubbies. I know the rest of the league has to be feeling the same way right about now, just lickin' their chops when his turn comes around.



    On the bright side if he has a few more sub-par outings we can all look forward to more trades talks in Chicago!

  • Over.



    I'd take over on 11.

  • Jimbo

    Ok, JimK, Im in. I not only predict the "over", Id be willing to say the Cubs score 7 or more themselves. I say on national TV tonight, against a struggling pitcher, the offense has a big night. And, I also predict Marquis comes through with a quality outing.

  • JimK

    A fans' poll for both teams says, "We're expecting the worst tonight, while hoping for some kind of win." Here's a contest: My over/under combined score tonight is 7. We might all enjoy seeing how many vote over and how many vote under.

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