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May 5, 2008

Game Thirty-Two - Cubs 3 Reds 5
WP - Johnny Cueto (2-3) LP - Ryan Dempster (4-1) Save - Francisco Cordero (5)

It's not too often a pitcher loses a game without giving up an earned run but that is exactly what happened to Ryan Dempster on Monday night. Dempster was the victim of two errors....one by Mike Fontenot in the 1st inning that led to 3 runs and the other by Mark DeRosa in the 3rd inning that led to an Adam Dunn 2-run homer, the difference in the game. Dempster pitched a good game but was not able to get out of the trouble the miscues put him in. Despite pitching a very good game, Dempster is still winless at Great American Ball Park.

The Cubs defense actually turned in two very good plays on the night. A tremendous catch by Felix Pie in the 5th robbed Ken Griffey, Jr. of home run #598. Ryan Theriot also made a fine stab on a ball in the 6th off the bat of Edwin Encarnacion.

The Cubs offense struggled once again and could not reach their magic number. Geovany Soto hit his 6th home run of the year to put the Cubs on the board in the 2nd inning. Soto continued swinging a hot bat and recorded 3 of the Cubs 9 hits and reached base in all 4 trips to the plate. Ryan Theriot and Derrek Lee came through with 2-out RBI's in the 5th. Lou Piniella's crew loaded the bases for the 16th game in a row in the 9th on two different occasions but came away empty. Mike Fontenot was thrown out at the plate trying to score on a wild pitch for the 2nd out and Derrek Lee grounded out to Joey Votto at 1st on a bang-bang play to end the game.

The Cubs dropped another disappointing game to a division rival after Lou Piniella stated in his pre-game show that his team must learn how to win low scoring ballgames....

The Cubs ended the Reds 5-game losing streak and not the other way around. No matter who the opponent is, when one Major League team gives another more than 27 outs chances are they are going to lose....and that was the case against the Reds. The Cubs are missing Aramis Ramirez both at the plate and in the field.

Ryan Dempster struck out Ryan Freel to start the game on 3 pitches but gave up back-to-back infield singles to Ken Griffey, Jr. and a swinging bunt to Brandon Phillips. Dempster appeared to get out of the inning but Mike Fontenot booted the tailor made double play ball....the Reds loaded the bases with only 1 out.

Dempster walked Edwin Encarnacion to force in Griffey with the game's first run. Adam Dunn stepped in with the bases loaded and Dempster struck him out looking on a 3-2 pitch....but Jeff Keppinger came through with a broken bat, bloop single to center that plated the Reds other two runs.

Dempster struck out the side in the 2nd but Edwin Encarnacion reached on a 2-out error in the 3rd by Mark DeRosa. Adam Dunn followed with a monster 2-run shot to right field.

All 5 runs the Reds scored against Ryan Dempster were unearned. Dempster gave up only 4 hits, struck out 7 and walked 1 in 6 innings...one of his better outings of the season.

Sean Marshall gave up a couple of hits in his 2/3 of an inning but Chad Fox struck out Brandon Phillips to end the 7th. Kerry Wood pitched a perfect 8th with a strikeout.

Johnny Cueto was as advertised....a very good, young pitcher and he kept the Cubs off balance the first time through the lineup, with the exception of Geovany Soto. Soto hit a solo blast off of Cueto in the 2nd inning to left.

The Cubs' offense faired a little better the next time through the lineup. Griffey took a home run away from Alfonso Soriano in the 3rd....and Felix Pie would repay the favor later in the game. Ryan Theriot singled with the Cubs second hit but Derrek Lee grounded out to end the inning.

Felix Pie led off the 5th with a walk. Ryan Dempster followed and attempted to sacrifice him to 2nd but Dempster bunted the ball back to Cueto....the Reds defense erased the walk with a 1-6-3 double play. Dempster failing to lay down the bunt ended up being a big play in the game.

Alfonso Soriano followed with a single to center. Ryan Theriot doubled down the left field line on a 3-2 pitch. Soriano scored and Derrek Lee drove in Theriot with a single to left. Kosuke Fukudome flied out to center to end the inning.

The Cubs made the game very interesting in the 9th.

Mike Fontenot led off the inning with a single to left. Felix Pie followed with another single to left off of Francisco Cordero. Daryle Ward lined out to Corey Patterson in right center and Alfonso Soriano walked to load the bases after starting the at bat with a 0-2 count. Ryan Theriot stepped in and on the second pitch of the at bat, Cordero uncorked a wild pitch. Mike Fontenot tried to score from 3rd. The ball beat him to the plate, he was called out but he appeared to get his foot in under the tag. Fontenot got a late break to the plate....and simply made a bad decision.

Ryan Theriot walked to reload the bases. Derrek Lee hit a grounder to Joey Votto toward the hole but Cordero did not break for the bag....Votto barely beat Lee to the bag to end the game.

The difference on Monday night was the three extra outs the Cubs defense gave the Reds.

Lou Piniella stated before the game they are working on improvements....so they are coming. And the Cubs are still 4 games above .500 with as bad as they have played over the past two weeks.

It will not get any easier for the Cubs offense on Tuesday night. Carlos Zambrano is scheduled to take the mound against Aaron Harang.

Comments

I don't miss Ramirez on the field, really, not at all.

People already noticed how bad a fielder he is:

http://homerderby.com/archives/2160


I would put him on DH when the interleague comes about...


Posted by: Dorasaga | May 6, 2008 1:41 AM

Dorasaga. The man (Aramis) comes up big at D all the time. Are you talking about Jose Hernandez who oouldn't do it? Maybe Vance Law? Why dont you elaborate?


Posted by: Curt in Dubuque | May 6, 2008 2:30 AM

The Cubs have been quite frustrating to watch for the last 11 games so here's a small diversion. Jacque Jones was cut by the Tigers today, it's truly amazing how much this guy has fallen off since signing that 3 year deal with the Cubs.

For 5 straight years the guy consistently fell between about 20-25 homers and 70-85 RBI, then last year, fell off a cliff to just 5 homers and was shipped off during the winter. For a 33 year old ball player it's pretty staggering.


Posted by: Scott | May 6, 2008 7:01 AM

Another good example of why prior history and stats does not guarantee nor predict present/future performance. I won't get on the Soriano soapbox so early this morning, but the same applies to him. Injuries, age and lack of adjustments just take their toll.

It was interesting over the weekend to listen to a Pujols interview, and how he attempts to make subtle adjustments at each at-bat. That's why he's an MVP caliber professional...Derrick Lee likely falls in the same mold.


Posted by: Mike | May 6, 2008 7:14 AM

In regards to Jacque Jones and a few other thirtyish ball players that are suddenly struggling after putting up good numbers in the past....do you feel that the new stricter policy on steroids just might have something to do with it??? Just a thought.


Posted by: Joe | May 6, 2008 7:26 AM

Joe,

I've been wondering the same thing. So many guys have just falled off the table completely in their early 30's over the last two seasons.


Posted by: David | May 6, 2008 10:19 AM

Aramis sucks at 3rd!!???! Man some people on this site are loosing their damn minds...actually i'm guessing that they're probably Cardinal, Milwaukee, Sox, whatever fans and Neil and the boys should consider banning these "Cub fans"!


Posted by: Cory | May 6, 2008 1:41 PM

Look for Jacque to resurface with Dusty and the Reds.
Jacque doesn't clog the bases with walks, and Dusty appreciates that smart approach to baseball.


Posted by: Jason B. from AZ | May 6, 2008 1:50 PM

Derosa fills in fine every where
u send him, but ramirez has no
substitute in the national league.


Posted by: agustin rexach | May 6, 2008 5:26 PM

Derosa fills in fine every where
u send him, but ramirez has no
substitute in the national league.


Posted by: agustin rexach | May 6, 2008 5:29 PM

I must be out of my mind, cuz I 'm chatting w/a bunch of guys who don't keep their "minds" in-tact. And we don't need to mind too many crazy ideas.

Just look at the defensive misplays. Everything is comparable in the professional world. We have Joe Crede and even Alex Rodriguez showing us what good third basemen do.

I'll point out a few things: With Izturis and Perez covering him before, A-Ram didn't need to jump out of his zone in order to save drives b/w the 3B/SS hole. A-Ram has a strong arm, which compensates his bad-jump at the ball.

Remember: "A run saved worths more than a run made."

Ramirez is a good hitter. But he's at best a mediocre defensive player (average or below league average). He'll create more runs for the team than the runs he gave up, and I 'm cool with that.

But it's the same thing as: Should we believe all the BBWAA beat writers of big market towns brainwashing us that the MVP Jeter is one of the best defensive shortstops in the league?

Jeter can do something really well. He can hit; he has power; he's a leader; he can handle bunts and make great off-balance throws; he'll risk in order to save a double along the line.

He's great in many things. But he fails to catch or keep drives coming to him in front of him. He gave up too many singles, way too many hits compared to league average.

A-Ram, the same idea: he's good at keeping balls coming to his left. But balls will pass him if it's along the line. He gave up doubles.

He can't handle bunts as well as say Lowell (Boston), or even Crede. You don't even need to check out his Range Factor-enchanced (RF+) and Simple Fielding Rate (SFR), just watch.

Please read "The Fielding Bible," and see how we can take accounts of objective analysis and scouting report when we evaluate fielding.


Posted by: Dorasaga | May 7, 2008 3:32 AM

I'll repeat this again, to avoid confusion:

I never said Ramirez is not missed on our lineup. If he can bat DH, he must be a great hitter.

But I 'm not happy with his fielding. The coaches need to work with him on things that I pointed out.

The Cubs can be better, can't we?
;-)


Posted by: Dorasaga | May 7, 2008 3:36 AM

Wasn't Ramirez second or third in feilding percentage last year, behind Chipper Jones?


Posted by: nick | May 7, 2008 7:05 AM

If a player let every single blooper or any ball drop right in front of him, he won't get an error, and he will have 1.000-- hundred per cent of fielding percentage.

But the really good defense will take aggressive fielding (Torii Hunter, for example). Believing FP means the end of the world, because fielding is a very TOUGH AREA to evaluate.

I strongly recommend folks interested pick up "The Fielding Bible" and flip through it. It's an interesting read. I hope it helps us see how difficult it is to evaluate defense.


Posted by: Dorasaga | May 7, 2008 9:21 PM
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