Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Pirates - 05/24/08

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Game Forty-Nine: Cubs (29-19) vs. Pirates (22-26)
Game Time - 6:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WGN - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 189
Location - PNC Park, Pittsburgh

Jason Marquis (2-3, 4.96/1.61) vs. Phil Dumatrait (1-2, 4.39/1.56)

It is been more than six weeks since the Cubs won back-to-back games on the road and tonight they will try to accomplish that feat behind Jason Marquis. For the second time in a week Jason Marquis will face Phil Dumatrait. Marquis was on the winning side of their first match-up last Sunday at Wrigley and the Pirates could receive a little boost tonight.

Reports have indicated Jack Wilson could return to the Pirates lineup tonight. Wilson has been on the DL with an injured left calf and has been on a rehab assignment for the last week. Wilson would help the Pirates both offensively and defensively.

In other news....Sean Marshall will miss his next start after leaving Thursday's game in the 4th inning. According to a report on Cubs.com, Marshall pulled a hamstring. With Rich Hill already on the minor league DL, the Cubs pitching depth in minors took a big hit. Sean Gallagher will remain in the rotation and start Tuesday night's game at Wrigley against the Dodgers.

Jason Marquis has won only two games this season and both have come against the Pirates at Wrigley. Marquis is coming off a solid performance last Sunday after it appeared he might not make it through 3 innings. Marquis gave up a 2-run homer to Adam LaRoche in the 1st inning, but settled down and did not allowed another earned run. Marquis surrendered 3 runs, 2 earned, on 4 hits in 6 innings. It was a quality start for Marquis and a good ending to an impressive homestand.

But that was then and this is now. Lou Piniella needs a solid outing out of Marquis tonight. With the injuries to Sean Marshall and Rich Hill, the backend of the Cubs' rotation has two big question marks....and another quality start by Marquis tonight would put off the Cubs trying to find an answer for one of the spots for at least another 5 days.

Marquis' best road start last season came in Pittsburgh on May 2nd. Marquis held the Pirates to just 1 run on 4 hits with 5 strikeouts and no walks in 8 innings....for his career, Marquis is 4-3 in 7 starts, 9 games, at PNC with a 3.72 ERA and a 1.24 WHIP.

Marquis must keep the ball down and throw strikes tonight. If he leaves the ball up and starts walking batter after batter, it could end up being a very short outing.

Phil Dumatrait walked the Cubs seven times in 4 2/3 innings last Sunday. He surrendered only 4 runs on 4 hits....but the difference was all of the free passes. The Cubs must make him work again tonight. The Cubs' offense had trouble finding a rhythm against the erratic southpaw, but it is hard to argue with the end result.

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Hubert

    You're a walking hypocrite.



    The reason I pointed to your relative lack of intelligence is that I can actually point out where you are lacking as opposed to resorting to fifth grade insults like "you sorry ass SOB."



    Furthermore, I do root for the Cubs, and there are posts where I make constructive comments about the play of certain people when they are succeeding. Also, when there was a tirade of people during Sori's cold streak, I was the one that defended him WITH facts, not a sample size of 1 week to make a judgment on whether to trade a player or not.



    I make my points and defend them with facts. Spiteful comment about a player, lol? Dude, the only player I bash is Theriot.



    Again, make some intelligent points, back them up, and then come back; you couldn't defend Theriot at all to prove why he is a deserving starter, and you can't even defend yourself when you come at me because you're the one that started the ad hominem attacks in the first place.

  • Matt Haggard

    No, dude. Get over yourself.



    The difference between you and every other poster that bashes a player is that they sincerely root for this team through the good and the bad.



    The only time you post is to bash on Theriot or make a spiteful comment about a player.



    Im a fan of all 25 men on this team. I root on the Cubs.



    I have a hard time feeling the same thing about you.



    And youre mean comments:

    "Mentally retarded"

    "No brain"

    "Im smarter than you"



    Its a load of horse crap, man.



    Ive bitten my tongue and twisted my arm to say all of this, but it just seems a bit odd that on a daily basis YOURE the common source of the CCO's angst.



    Every night someone is having to call you to get out of here. NIGHTLY.



    Youre antics are truly getting old. More old than Sammy's boom box. More old than Bonds'misanthropic attitude. More old than Julio Franco.



    Get over yourself, man.

  • Hubert

    And while my anti-Theriot post gets all the attention,



    baron's post does the same thing with Wuertz. Get over yourself Matt.

  • Hubert

    Negativity? LOL. This entire game topic is one embroiled in negativity because of the misplays. When misplays happen they will be pointed out by everyone, not just me.



    Matt, obviously because I know much more about baseball than you, your arguments have just come down to ad hominem instead of backing up your sentiments about Theriot.



    You guys are a f*cking double standard. I have an issue with Theriot, and I backed it up. When someone or a mass of you diss Soriano or whoever for one cold streak, suddenly it is like trade him, it is automatically justfied. Shut the hell up with your stupid a** negativity argument, the rest of you spouted just as much when Soriano went on like a 1-2 week cold streak.



    And now for some of you who were spouting Wood's praises, hindsight is 20-20, and now the dogs are now out on him even though he isn't THAT bad.



    Did I not specify earlier that I said "TO NOT Shift the blame from Woody" and then I made my Theriot point. Goddamn you are f*cking dull.



    Sorry Matt, just doesn't seem like you have a functioning brain.

  • Boseph Heyden

    It does, in fact, feel like 99% of his posts are ragging on Theriot, who is the most random person to have any issues with on the team. If it was negativity focused on the handling on the team or the lack of an actual base stealer (the blame for that lack is on Soriano and his dislike of rehabbing his leg), that would be one thing, but every time Theriot does something bad, there's Hubert. And it is kind of annoying.



    But on the game, this one was on Wood and Soriano, that's it. Soriano isn't 100%; he knows it, we know it, Lou knows it, but Soriano won't say anything because he knows he can still hit the ball hard enough to get those singles and doubles and home runs he's so good at. And again, this is all tied in to that lack of a basestealer. Yeah, having a guy who can hit homeruns in leadoff is good, but his insane contract was meant for a 40/40 guy, or a guy who could get close to that on a seasonal basis. He really needs to suck it up, say he's not 100%, go back on the DL if he has to, take a rehab stint, and make that that. He's got nothing to prove, but he's got to get healthy if he's going to make this team a World Series team.



    And Wood? I got a little sick when I heard Len say that when Wood hits the first batter he faces, they come around to score. Not because of the foreshadowing, but because that shouldn't even be measurable. He should be hitting a leadoff guy once a season, TOPS. I was never a big fan of Wood being the closer. Last year, he did nothing to impress. And Spring Training is not a good way to determine who'll make a good closer, because the guys you're facing in the 9th inning of a Spring Training game may or may not even be in the majors during the season, let alone a starter. Marmol, and even Howry, have better track records than Wood did. Marmol's just lights out and Howry, for as bad as he can be, has this uncanny ability to record outs in the 9th to get saves. He can't get a hold to save his life, but saves are a different matter. I'd take Wood out of the closer role and have him work on his stuff a little more to get back to at least semi-starter quality.

  • Matt Haggard

    Sorry.



    I just dont like the constant negativity he spouts.



    And I aint the only one.



    I feel like all but one of us is on the same team.



    Sorry Hubert, but you just dont feel like one of the faithful...

  • Neil

    Hey guys, I know everyone is upset. But please do not call each other names.



    I know Theriot made the error, but Derrek Lee would have scooped that ball. If anyone is to "blame" for this loss, it should be Lou. You cannot take a gold glove first baseman out of an extra inning game on the road. I knew when it happened there would be a play with Henry Blanco at 1st that had an impact on the finish.

  • Matt Haggard

    See you guys tomorrow..



    Man, wish I were a drinker on nights like this...

  • Matt Haggard

    Hubert, I suggest you drop it you sorry ass SOB.



    This is a team game. Everyone from Ryan to Kerry to Lou dropped this one.



    These things happen.



    So dont start your bullshit right now.



    Si?

  • baron

    I don't know who says Wuertz has good stuff...



    And 85 MPH sinking fastball is good?



    Howry, Wuertz??? 1 Guy is washed up -- 1 Guy has ALWAYS been crap.

  • Hubert

    Where are Ryan's intangibles now? Oh wait...he never had good defense...Oo; His ZONE rating is horrible..

  • Matt Haggard

    14 innings of wasted baseball...



    Ugly...

  • Neil

    Lee was double switched and that move just hurt

  • baron

    How is Hank White in this game?





    What is happening here? Has Lou been drinking Whiskey like me?

  • Matt Haggard

    Damnit, Ryan..

  • Matt Haggard

    Is Derrek ok?



    If this keeps up much longer into the night, we're gonna be playing a double header...

  • Matt Haggard

    Great D by RC!

  • Neil

    Lou took out Derrek Lee in extra innings?

  • Matt Haggard

    The pen came through there, though. Mad props.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    I'm really getting sick of Wood's act.

    WTF he has to hit a batter and blow the save. Geez

  • Hubert

    +1 to the Ryan Theriot should not ever run on a basepath w/o the aid of a hit count.

  • baron

    this is one of the more frustrating games I've seen in a while....



    9 men left on base now...

  • Neil

    Hubert, my thoughts exactly

  • Matt Haggard

    This is your moment, Hollywood...



    Nevermind..

  • Hubert

    Not to shift blame from Woody but we shoulda been up 5-3 not 4-3 due to the pickoff..

  • Matt Haggard

    The Pirates are gonna regret sending Capps back out there.



    Not to mention, not pench hitting for him.

  • Neil

    Wild Woody...

  • Matt Haggard

    Kerry will be truly DOMINATING when he learns to get that first man out...

  • Mark

    Damn it! How many more f-ing times is Kerry Wood going to hit the 1st f-ing guy he faces! And he's our closer? He's blown this game for us.

  • baron

    Outside of Marmol.. we have to have the shakiest pen ever!!!



    I love Woody!! but damn he hits like every third hitter.... its so frikkin aggravating

  • Hubert

    Marmolade's slider is even more disgusting than K-Rod's....because it is more consistent..

  • Matt Haggard

    Nasty.

  • Rich

    Gotta love playing the Pirates.

  • Neil

    Kosuke!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    And you...just got fuk'd!!

  • Matt Haggard

    A-RAMI!!!!'



    Chyea!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    And the sad thing is that Marquis has pitched good enough for the W...

  • Matt Haggard

    Yeh. I'm not taking a shot at DeRo. He usually comes throught.



    That AB was just hard to sit through.

  • Neil

    Matt if you are talking about DeRosa's...I agree

  • Matt Haggard

    Hideous AB.



    This feels like last Saturday's Pirate game..

  • Matt Haggard

    I getcha JimK, cool gig.



    Soto came through. Just not much other offense.



    Why is it that when we gain a lead we give right back up? Grr!

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Come on Offense!!!!!!!!!!

  • Neil

    Marquis with another bad inning...the lost art of the shutdown inning

  • Cary

    I would love to know how many times Marquis has given up the lead the same inning he's been given it. It's so predicatable with him.

  • Neil

    Solid play by Theriot. Offense?!?!?

  • Neil

    Matt, I hope you are right.

  • JimK

    Matt...The Calcutta's 11 teams first draw numbers to see who goes 1-11 making selections in the first round. We go 11-1 in the second and back to 1-11 in the third. The lowest combined finish total for their 3 picks wins first place, etc. We hope that Power and Lloyd finish the race in the 10-15 range and Kanaan is a top 4. If that happens our team could win. We did win the in the last two races--so we're hoping for three in a row.

  • Matt Haggard

    I rarely make predictions, but Ive got one for ya'll.



    After his 0-fer last night, Im betting on Soto having a monster day. I see a HR.



    Just a feelin', haha.

  • Matt Haggard

    Im glad to see that Alfonso has his 'confidence' today.



    Jim, I too like Will Power. I just dont think he has it tomorrow. Andretti, Kanaan, and Danica are my 3, if Im picking.



    And sadly, tomorrow nights' Cup race is Kyle Busch's to lose.



    LETS GO CUBBIES!

  • JimK

    With 33 race cars ready to go in Indy and one of the world's more notable party weekends underway, my Cubs concentration will be lacking tonight. Quick takes inlclude hoping that Soriano is able physically to do well tonight. In effect, he's batting 4th behind good hitters DeRosa, Johnson and Marquis--so he should have RBI chances.



    And in a first (maybe), we have Soto batting cleanup behind Riot, Lee and Rameriz. Maybe that leaves Dome to just break his HR draught. Conclusion? Offense should get its job done, and Marquis is OK for 6 innings. Go Cubs and go Kanaan, Power and Lloyd (my Calcutta team's 3 picks in tomorrow's Indy 500).

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Soto - C

    Fukudome - RF

    DeRosa - 2B

    Johnson - CF

    Marquis - P

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