Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Astros - 05/19/08

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Game Forty-Five: Cubs (27-17) vs. Astros (25-20)
Game Time - 6:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: ESPN, Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 174, 183
Location - Minute Maid Park, Houston

Ted Lilly (4-4, 5.33/1.28) vs. Brian Moehler (1-0, 4.58/1.58)

The Cubs open a big 3-game series in Houston tonight against the surprising Astros. Many picked the Astros to finish near the bottom of the NL Central but they open play tonight in 3rd place only 2 1/2 games behind the Cubs. While the Astros' have questions surrounding their starting rotation, nothing is wrong with their high-powered offense....especially Lance Berkman. Other than Alfonso Soriano, Berkman is the hottest hitter in the game and the additions of Miguel Tejada and Kaz Matsui have given Cecil Cooper a very potent offense.

Unlike the past few years, the Cubs are a much better team at Wrigley than on the road. Lou Piniella's crew is 19-8 at home and just 8-9 on the road and with the lopsided schedule they were handed, the Cubs must improve their record away from Wrigley to stay at the top of the division.

The Cubs are 16-11 against the rest of the Central Division (8-1 against the Pirates) and in order to win the division, as the saying goes....you must beat the teams within your own division. After finishing with a 2-4 record the last time they hit the road (St. Louis and Cincinnati), the Cubs need to reverse their fortune against two more division rivals.

Ted Lilly has turned his season around after a horrible start. After beginning the season 1-4 in his first 6 starts with a 6.46 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP, Lilly is 3-0 in his last 3 starts with a 3.60 ERA and a 0.95 WHIP. In his last 13 innings, Lilly has struck out 21 batters and walked only 3. In order for Lilly to beat the Astros tonight, he must not give them any help. The Astros can score at will and it is up to Lilly to keep throwing strikes and let his defense make the plays.

Lilly is 1-1 in 3 career starts against the Astros with a 3.60 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP....last year, 1-0 in 2 starts with a 2.57 ERA and a 0.86 WHIP. Tonight will be Lilly's second career start at Minute Maid Park. Lilly lost his first start in Houston back on June 10, 2005 and gave up 4 runs on 7 hits in 6 innings. He allowed 3 home runs (Wily Taveras, Jason Lane and Morgan Ensberg) in a 4-2 Blue Jays loss to the Astros.

  • Lance Berkman - 1-for-8
  • Darin Erstad - 2-for-21 with a double
  • Carlos Lee - 3-for-19 with 2 doubles
  • Mark Loretta - 5-for-17 with 2 doubles and 2 home runs
  • Hunter Pence - 0-for-4
  • Miguel Tejada - 3-for-24 with a double and 4 walks
  • Ty Wigginton - 1-for-4

Brian Moehler stepped into the Astros' rotation when Wandy Rodriguez went to the DL. Moehler has responded quite well and will make his third start of the year tonight....his first at home. Moehler is 1-0 as a starter with a 2.70 ERA and a 1.40 WHIP with 7 strikeouts and only 1 walk.

Moehler put together a very good 5-inning start against the Dodgers in L.A. back on May 9th. He did not allow a run, gave up 5 hits and struck out a season-high 5 batters. Moehler received a no decision in San Francisco his last time out in a 6-3 Astros' win....3 runs on 8 hits in 5 innings.

Tonight will be Moehler's fourth career start against the Cubs. In 6 previous games, he is 1-0 with a 3.91 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP. In his first 2 starts this year, Moehler has pitched just 5 innings, the Cubs must continue being patient at the plate and make him work.

  • Ronny Cedeno - 1-for-4
  • Mark DeRosa - 0-for-2
  • Jim Edmonds - 11-for-32 with 4 doubles, 5 home runs and 4 walks
  • Derrek Lee - 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Aramis Ramirez - 3-for-11 with a double and a triple
  • Alfonso Soriano - 4-for-7 with a double

The Cubs took 2 of 3 from the Astros in their first meeting of the year at Wrigley back in April (April 4 - April 6) and Cecil Cooper's club will be looking to return the favor.

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Cory

    I got nothing...I just wanted to be the 100th post... good night all!

  • Cory

    With Rich Hill now on the DL and Marshall really pitching well it really shows how baseball can be so unpredictable. I feel for Hill and hope he gets back to where we all thought he'd be this year.

  • baron

    things are looking pretty, pretty.. good

  • Matt Haggard

    I love this team.

  • agustin rexach

    solid game!

  • JimK

    A really exciting Cubs win. Soriano or Aram probably have to hit the ground on an inside pitch tomorrow. It's a team game, and some picked up others to get the job done tonight.



    If anyone can tell us what the trash talk on the site added to the game/evening tonight, please let us know. And Scott McMeekan did an impressive job out of the coaches box with his son!! Some day son will say, "You were there for me dad" and the score of the game(s) will have been long forgotten.

  • Jeff in Az

    Couple things:



    Cory, I thought the same thing about Phillips. Why in the hell would you bring the go-ahead run to the plate when that go-ahead run is Carlos Lee. I think Pinella told him to keep the ball down.



    On another note, I thought it was pretty big league for Pinella to go out there and talk to Marmol before he had to face the big 3. It is nice to have a coach who acts as if he is a player. (gone are the toothpick chewing, sitting on my ass dude days of Baker.)



    I can remember Edmonds making countless incredible catches against us, it is awesome to have him do it for the home team. :) That catch was so important, if that inning continued the outcome of this game may have been different.

  • Jeff in AZ

    Nice win, great effort by the pen (minus Weurtz). It is nice to see how many differenct players are contributing at the plate. This team is demonstrating an offensive consistancy that we have not seen in ages.

  • Neil

    Simply a Great Win!!!

  • Cory

    Big win! Impressive the way we shut down Berkman and Pence. Let's get em tomorrow!

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Scott McMeekan

    Man, I help my son with his math homework for an hour and look what happens! Sheesh!



    Aram coming back strong, and D-Lee lighting up again. Marmol doin' the nasty again.



    Boys, this is an impressive win tonight!!!

  • Neil

    ARAMIS!!!

  • Cory

    Aramis!!!!!!! Don't hang that junk to ARAM!!!!

  • Trevor

    ARam just changed the complexion of this game in a hurry.

  • nick

    Ramirez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cory

    I think DLee is waking up....

  • nick

    Nice job Lee, good way to start the inning.

  • Cory

    Way to go MARMOL you nasty dude! Carlos Lee better stop crowding the plate ;)



    Phillips is such a jag...he doesn't know crap...yeah let's walk Berkman to get to Lee as the go ahead run....tool!

  • Trevor

    Pat and Ron calling the game is priceless for normal games, let alone a no-hitter. C without a doubt.

  • nick

    Nice Job Marmol!

  • Neil

    Matsui was out!

  • Cory

    COME ON MATSUI WAS OUT!!!!

  • nick

    The ump missed that call.

  • Cory

    Why even bring in Wuertz? You got Marmol warming up? I just don't understand. I mean yeah it would've been great if Wuertz would've worked out but why try that strategy now? At Houston?

  • Neil

    C....no doubt.

  • nick

    my answer would be C too.

  • cliff

    lester's no-no got me thinking...



    Lets say that Big Z throws a no-hitter later this year... the game is on espn and wgn.



    Who do you listen call the last out?

    A.) Joe Morgan on Espn (rhetorical)

    B.) Len & Bob

    C.) mute the TV and turn on Pat & Ron



    Santo's excitement is priceless... C for me.

  • Cory

    Close the book on Kevin Hart. 5 ip, 5 hits, 3 runs, 2 earned, 2 bb, and 6k's. era at 2.87. He was at 82 pitches...I know i'm getting redundant about this but it's weird how they only let Marshall and Hart go 5. Pie still hitless.



    Clutch Theriot!!! RC baby....dude!

  • Cary

    Keep spouting Hubert.



    Nice job Theriot!

  • Neil

    Big hit for Theriot! Bad baserunning by Cedeno....

  • Neil

    That hurt...questionable call on the 1-0 pitch, changed the at bat.

  • baron

    Heh... I get to watch both games...



    Da Cubs on ESPN and the Sox on NESN -----



    the Red Sox announcers were goin nuts

  • cliff

    fat elvis!!!

  • Neil

    Yes, congratulations to Jon Lester!

  • Ryan

    Congrats to Jon Lester...great story great feat for the young man

  • Hubert

    Cory: I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Cary. It was just in case the subsequent comment to mine was a typo.



    Fox: It doesn't matter what the choice of words is. The point was he has no power. I don't care what Cary thinks about that statement; it wasn't offensive. I can understand the "retarded" statement, but this one was an obvious fact about Theriot.



    Boseph: Actually Sori didn't deserve it. For most of his career it is known he is a streaky hitter and heats up with the weather. Then you have unknowledgeable people calling for the trade of a guy who is one of our main sluggers and has a no-trade clause.



    Theriot is doing well, but his mistakes, when he does make them are at the most devastating times. Lack of patience w/ RISP, and getting caught stealing A LOT when D-Lee is at the plate. If he can sustain it for the year, then yes, he is a good no. 2 hitter, if he falls again post-AS Break like last year, then no way.

  • nick

    Thanks Neil and Cory.

  • Cory

    I know Neil I hadn't heard anything about it till listening to the game tonight.

  • Neil

    Nick, Theriot doubled to left with 1-out. Lee singled just to the left of straight away center to drive in Theriot on a 2-1 pitch.

  • Cory

    Soriano k'd, Theriot double, DLee rbi single, ARam F-9

  • Neil

    Cory...thank you. I try to watch all of the signings in the minors but I missed Jason DuBois....wow, I cannot believe he is back.

  • nick

    I just missed what happened, can someone give me an update?

  • Cory

    Way to go DLEE!!!! Man I can't believe he was 2 for his last 28!? Maybe this will be the beginning to another tear from the big guy.

  • baron

    Great Hustle by the Riot... Thats his biggest value...



    Hes a mini-Jeter in the making...

  • Neil

    Way to go DLee!!!

  • Cory

    I forgot to mention Jason Dubois is back. He's playing 1st since Hoffpauir was recalled.



    Nice rip Theriot!

  • Neil

    The offense needs to wake up

  • Cory

    I can't wait till Carlos Lee retires!



    Murton just hit his 1st homer and is now batting .372! Pie is still hitless. Hart has pitched 4 innings and given up 2 runs.



    Nice double play!

  • Neil

    Way to go Geo!! Held on to that fould tip.

  • Cory

    Way to get out of it Lilly!!!!!

  • Trevor

    Nice job Lily to get out of that jam. I'd really like to see 4 or 5 more runs on the board. :)

  • Fox

    Hubert, I think it's pretty obvious he's criticizing your choice of words here. It's not that say Theriot has not power its just the way you say it.

  • Boseph Heyden

    No, they're telling you no one wants to hear it. Soriano deserved his criticism: he was batting under .200. From what I can tell, the only Theriot has against him is that he's the the closest thing to a basestealer the Cubs have and he's average at best. He's hitting upper .200/.300 for the season and has been patient at times. He didn't take a power swing or anything, he just made a poor decision.



    There's constructive criticism and then there's personal propaganda, of which you fall into the latter.

  • Trevor

    Man this is a tight game. C'mon Theodore, dig deep here.

  • Cory

    I don't know why your talking to me Hubert but I am not interested in you or anything you have to say at all so please just watch the game and chill out dude.

  • Hubert

    Cory/Cary w/e: Wait a second. You're telling me it is okay for you to criticize Soriano one minute, and then I can't criticize Theriot when he shows no patience. What is even more astounding, is that it is TRUE that Theriot has no power and you're talking to me as if he does. Go take your hypocrisy to someone who cares.

  • agustin rexach

    woooooooooooowwwwww! Edmonds!!!

  • Neil

    Welcome to Chicago Jim Edmonds!!!!

  • Cory

    Edmonds!!!!! I eat my words about him defensively!!!!

  • Trevor

    Holy crap Edmonds!! It feels better when he makes that circus catch FOR us rather than against us in the past! What a big play in this game.

  • Ryan

    WOW Edmonds...maybe thats the big thing i was feeling that was GREAT CATCH!

  • baron

    Holy Crap -- Jim Edmonds!!

  • Andy Pintino

    That play looked like the Edmonds of old! Great play!!!

  • nick

    NICE CATCH EDMONDS!!

  • Cary

    Hubert, watch your language, and stop the crap again with comments like "preschooler level power". Will you please leave this site already????

  • Cory

    That was some great pitching and a HORRIBLE job by Soriano!

  • Hubert

    The fact that Lilly is trying to pitch Berkman inside w/ that short porch in left scares the shit outta me.

  • Hubert

    Theriot was trying to hit a grand slam to the 2nd baseman with his preschooler level power.

  • nick

    Theriot should not have been swinging at the first pitch. The pitcher was having problems that inning, Theriot needed to see a few pitches there.

  • Cory

    Theriot WTF?!!? The guys on the ropes!!! First pitch??!! Come on!

  • Neil

    Theriot?!?!?!?!?! Whay did he swing at the first pitch?

  • Ryan

    Im sorry but a pitcher is struggling and theriot swings at the first pitch and grounds out weakly. Really? RC!?!?

  • Hubert

    If Sori wants to get pull happy anytime soon this is the park to do it. -_-;; NVM they're intentionally walking Sori to get to Mr. Little League.

  • Ryan

    I would be suprised if Sori sees anything to hit right here

  • Neil

    Bourn tried to make a leaping catch, bounced off the wall into center....Pence and Lee did not back-up the play.



    Soto scored standing

  • Cory

    See what happens when he takes a pitch HaHa! You were right about the sun though Neil.



    Can someone tell me what the heck Cooper was arguing? I mean what did he say? "Hey that was not an inside the park homer...that was over the wall!" What a tool.



    Tell me Edmond's isn't already hurt.

  • Hubert

    1) Go Geo, nuff said.

    2) Its been two games in a Cub uniform and Edmonds is already being looked at by Cubs med staff.

    3) However, he did have a nice AB, even better AB's by Rammy and the Fukmeister.

  • nick

    Nice sac Lilly, he is doing it all tonight.

  • Ryan

    That was a good AB by Edmonds...nice to see him go with a pitch the other way

  • nick

    Hey Fellas,



    Geovany!!!!!!! Gotta love it.

  • Aaron

    that was awesome....and hilarious at the same time to see the big man chug around the bases...LOL

  • David

    How the heck did Soto leg out an inside the park home run?? Were the outfielders really lost? I dont think Soto runs too well



    But great!

  • baron

    Soto!!

  • Neil

    INSIDE THE PARK HOME RUN FOR GEOVANY SOTO!!!!!

  • Ryan

    HAHAHA Soto THAT IS GREAT!!!

  • Neil

    How did Fukudome lay off that pitch?

  • Neil

    That was a great 11-pitch at bat by Ramirez

  • David

    Ramirez fought hard...and won the 11 pitch battle



    It would be great if he heated up just about now

  • Neil

    Baron...the sun.



    Lee might not be hitting right now....but his defense is still great!

  • baron

    The league is hitting .316 against this guy... Why are we being no-hit.... @$#@

  • Scott McMeekan

    I love it when Sori lays off that high heater!

  • Scott McMeekan

    Nice hit by Lilly. Man, is it just me or is this umps strike zone EXTREMELY tight? That first pitch to Lilly was definitely a strike. Oh well, as long as he's consistent.



    C'mon Sori, bring Lilly home...

  • Neil

    Cory....I was thinking very close to the same thing. A pitch or two there would have been great. They must make Moehler work...but it is easy for me to say not standing in that horrible glare from the sun.

  • Cory

    I get Soriano swinging at the 1st pitch but Soto needs to knock that crap out. This dude on the mound is VERY hittable!

  • agustin rexach

    great preview neil. I'm pumped for this series

    and hope our cubs understand its importance too.

    I predicted that the stros would finish 2nd in

    the division and could easily end up with the

    wild card. This team cant be taken lightly.

    Lily shoul step it up a notch tonight. Let's go

    cubs!

  • Cory

    DLee looks really confused up there.

  • Cory

    I hope your right Ryan. I just hope he doesn't get eaten alive out in that HUGE centerfield.

  • Ryan

    I have a feeling tonight will be the night when Jimmy Edmonds becomes a Cub aka he hits a home run or something like that...i just got a feeling

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Soriano - LF

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Fukudome - RF

    Soto - C

    Edmonds - CF

    DeRosa - 2B

    Lilly - P



    Also, Rich Hill was placed on the minor league DL today with back spasms.

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