Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Reds - 04/16/08

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Game Fourteen: Cubs (8-5) vs. Reds (6-8)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: Comcast SportsNet - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 186
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Carlos Zambrano (1-1, 3.20/1.07) vs. Josh Fogg (1-1, 7.00/1.33)

Update - Early Wednesday afternoon the Cubs placed Alfonso Soriano on the 15-day DL with a right calf strain and recalled Eric Patterson from Triple-A Iowa.

Lou Piniella's crew will try to make it two in a row against the Reds tonight behind their ace, Carlos Zambrano. The Cubs must continue what they started on Tuesday night....score early and often and keep the pressure on a very good lineup. The Reds will be desperate for a win after dropping four in a row. Hopefully, the 'good' Zambrano will show up with the same stuff he had in his first two starts of the year.

Carlos Zambrano is coming off a bad outing against the Phillies last Friday night. After a spectacular start to the season, Big Z lost his first of the year after giving up 5 runs on 9 hits in 6 innings. His antics were in full display during the game as well. Zambrano's pitches per inning increased and he turned in his shortest outing in 3 starts. Zambrano said he would add a little caffeine back into his diet, so....

Carlos Zambrano has struggled against the Reds the past couple of years. He is 10-9 in 27 games, 23 starts, in his career versus the Reds with a 3.39 ERA and a 1.34 WHIP. Last year, however, despite turning in one of his best career outings against the Reds in July, Zambrano was 2-4 in 6 starts with a 5.30 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP....and the 'Big Red Machine' hit a robust .294 against him.

  • Adam Dunn - 11-for-49 with 6 home runs and 13 walks
  • Edwin Encarnacion - 8-for-28 with 2 home runs and 3 walks
  • Ryan Freel - 3-for-19
  • Ken Griffey, Jr. - 11-for-30 with 5 doubles, 2 home runs and 5 walks
  • Jeff Keppinger - 4-for-11
  • Brandon Phillips - 8-for-24 with 3 doubles and 3 walks

Corey Patterson will face his former teammate for the first time tonight.

Josh Fogg will make his first start against the Cubs as a Red....he signed a 1-year deal with Cincinnati in the off-season. Tonight will be his third start of the season after a start very similar to Ted Lilly. Fogg has not pitched past the 5th inning and many think once Homer Bailey is recalled, Fogg will be the odd man out. Fogg has allowed 9 runs, 7 earned, on 9 hits in 9 innings with 3 walks and 6 strikeouts.

Fogg is 7-7 in 20 career starts against the Cubs with a 5.69 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP....he beat the Cubs last year in Colorado and allowed 2 runs on 5 hits in 6 innings.

  • Mark DeRosa - 4-for-6
  • Derrek Lee - 13-for-32 with 4 doubles and 2 home runs
  • Aramis Ramirez - 9-for-27 with a double and 4 home runs
  • Alfonso Soriano - 4-for-12 with a home run
  • Ryan Theriot - 2-for-6 with a triple
  • Carlos Zambrano - 3-for-6 with a home run

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Cory

    I-Cub update....they won again tonight...interesting thought though considering the earlier conversation, The red-headed left fielder known as Murton went 3-5 with 2 rbi's in the victory. Troubling though... as cool as the fact that he's batting .344..he has NO extra base hits and tonight's rbi's were Red's first! So to reflect, Murton has 32 ab's in AAA with no extra base hits and only 2 rbi's...I'd still have promoted him in front of E, Patterson!

  • agustin rexach

    Si!!Cachorros! Go Cubs!

  • Ryan R

    Tom Brennamen worked for the Cubs for like 5 years I think back in the late 80's. Word I hear is that got fired cause him and Harry Carey clashed. Its freakin ridiculous to hear him and his dad go on and on about the Cubs even when the Reds weren't playing the Cubs. I don't think much of it because IMO its jealousy simply for the fact that they cant fill their own ballpark unless the Cubs are in town where it becomes Wrigley South. Plus that fact that having lived in Cincy for almost 9 years pretty much the whole town thinks their S&@# don't stink.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Ryan R.



    As for Tom Brennamen or his dear old dad.



    Spit on him if you ever see him.



    Thank you.

  • Matt Haggard

    Doesnt Brennamen have a bad history with the Cubs?

  • Jim (TinleyPark)

    NATION REPRESENT!



    CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

  • Ryan R

    Wow Tom Brennamen just went on for 5 minutes about how much beer they drink in Wrigley, and how he dosen't like the throwing back of the visitors HR balls. Really? They drink beer at WRigley?

  • baron

    this ruthless tub-thumping...



    thats what i like to see!!!! Champs crush chumps!

  • Matt Haggard

    Matt remembers a simulated split squad game a few years back where the Cubs' white team's lead off hitter was Corey, and the blue team's lead off man was Eric.

  • Neil

    Pattersons are everywhere!!!



    EPat and CPat in the same game.

  • Matt Haggard

    What are they saying?

  • nick

    Now the reds announcers are ripping on the fans.

  • Cory

    Ok...new directive from HQ....take a hike Cory...walk Dunn!

  • nick

    These games are much more stress free than the extra inning affairs.

  • Neil

    Good outing by Z. Only 102 pitches in 7 innings. 3-for-3 tied a career high set last July against the Reds.

  • Matt Haggard

    Again, Zzzzzzzz!!!!!! HAHA! Go big man, go!

  • nick

    Biz Z 3-3 !!!!!

  • Cory

    I hear you Neil.....wait till Carpenter and Mulder return....good times!

  • nick

    With the off day on Monday, last nights game, and tonight, this is exactly what our bullpen needed.

  • Neil

    Cory...yes, you are right.



    And, don't look now guys....the Cardinals are beating Milwaukee 5-1 in the 6th. Adam Wainwright hit a home run. Carlos Villanueva started the game.

  • Matt Haggard

    He has been hitting that at times. But why sling the ball as hard as you could and tire yourself with a 9 run lead.

  • Cory

    Well at least we didn't walk him Neil ;)

  • David

    Medium sized Z's fastball is still around 90mph. David thinks his fastball is supposed to be around 94-95 mph, right?

  • Cory

    I don't mean anything by breaking on DeRosa's adventures in left Aaron...i'm just a jaded A-Hole Cub's fan who is ok with it since we're winning...;)

  • nick

    I am lovin this offensive explosion, this is what we have all been waiting for.

  • Matt Haggard

    Yes sir! =)

  • Neil

    Matt....you meant 'Medium-Sized' Z, right?

  • David

    It's nice to see the entire lineup contributing today! Aaron...I think that's the reason we have a just above average pitching staff...our offense is supposed to carry us this year. Go Cubs!

  • Matt Haggard

    Zzzzzzzzzz! No, seriously! =D

  • Aaron

    holy balls....seriously...though I don't like the fact DeRosa grounds into a lot of double plays....he's doing awesome, and please don't blame him for that play in LF earlier---he was thrust into that role.



    As for Lee, Soto, Fukodome...wow...if those guys can continue what they're doing, it'll make me forget our pitching deficiencies.

  • Cary

    I love the way that Soto attacks the ball. What a pleasure to watch at the catcher spot. 11 RBI's already for the rookie!

  • Cory

    YEAH BABY!!!

  • Cory

    Great point Neil and & lets go GEO!!!

  • Matt Haggard

    Maybe its the beard?

  • nick

    Nick has the gameday audio, but I was just too lazy too boot it up.





    I will admit I have a man crush on DOME!!

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Hi everyone.



    D.Lee = 2005

  • Neil

    D-LEEEEE!!!! Number 6, leads NL.

  • Matt Haggard

    Gameday audio Nick. Matt sometimes forgoes TV just to listen to the Pat and Ron Show.



    15 dollars.

  • nick

    Nick is really tired of having to listen to these Reds announcers on Fox sports since Nick lives in Ohio

  • Matt Haggard

    Matt wonders if BB really believes that versatility mess that he is spouting...

  • Neil

    Cory, the entire league is walking Dunn this year. Encarnacion is not hitting yet and until he does it will continue. Hal McCoy, beat writer for the Reds, was on XM today talking about this subject.

  • Matt Haggard

    mlb.tv changed their minds..No full screen full screen...



    Grr..

  • nick

    Hey all,



    just got in and saw we are up again, glad we got out of that inning with only 1 run being scored.

  • Say what you want about Riot, but he's made some great plays, including that one. Not too shabby with the bat either.



    About DeRo in left... only seasoned veterans of Wrigley would be able to play the wind correctly with the way its blowing tonight.

  • Cory

    I totally agree with the dude that posted earlier that said we should've called up Murton, stuck him in left, and left DeRosa at 2nd. Wholly lucky bounce batman that was a fortuitous bounce off of Fogg's hit! GO CUBBIES!!!!

  • Cory

    WOW DeRosa Sucks in left!

  • Cory

    Does it drive anyone else CRAZY how much we walk Dunn?

  • Cubsfaninbama

    I'm also watching on Gameday. How is Z's fastball looking tonight?

  • Cubsfaninbama

    I agree with you Cary...you can't even begin to describe how valuable DeRosa is to the Cubs. The guy can play almost anywhere and always hits.

  • Neil

    Dome-AY! and DeRosa! Back-to-back doubles. With the wind blowing out, KEEP SCORING RUNS!!!

  • Cary

    In all the debate about Hendry, where would we be the last two years without DeRosa. The guys a gamer!

  • Matt Haggard

    Matt's glad to see this.



    Matt almost forgot it was Z pitching today.



    Third person day! =D

  • Hubert

    Fogg just got fukked...^^;



    Theriot is hitting .283..

  • Cary

    Way to see our little leaguer get us going. I believe our kid is now batting around .300



    Nice start...way to go Fukodome.

  • Matt Haggard

    And you just got fuk'd!

  • Hubert

    Anybody have a live feed of the game wanna tell a Gameday watcher why Theriot is still on third lol?

  • Matt Haggard

    i take back what I said last night about Theriot's power. With this wind we may yet see another HR from him. Drive him in Lee.

  • Hubert

    WTF Theriot...? OMG... >.

  • Neil

    Jim, I agree on Pie. Piniella said during his pregame show that he is working with Pie on his swing. They want him to shorten it up and quit swinging with his entire body.

  • Matt Haggard

    Hey, hey. mlb.tv finally figured out that "full screen" should mean FULL SCREEN. Good for me.



    With the wind, this should be a fun night.

  • Jim

    especially when DeRosa is in left.

  • Jim

    I would rather see Pie get as many at bats as possible early so a decision can be made.

  • Cubsfaninbama

    I'm glad to see Reed starting in center. He's earned it so far this year. At least he can put the bat on the ball.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Fontenot - 2B

    Theriot - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Fukudome - RF

    DeRosa - LF

    Soto - C

    Johnson - CF

    Zambrano - P



    Austin, it sounds like Piniella like what he saw with DeRosa in left.

  • Austin

    Todays News: Soriano hops his way to the DL...the same time as last year.



    Terrible News for the Cubbies. Do you think that Lou will give DeRosa the job out in left field? He seemed to do a pretty good job last night from what I saw.

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