Going Down Kicking and Screaming

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Game Fifty-Three - Cubs 3 Braves 5
WP - Tyler Yates (2-0, BS 1) LP - Will Ohman (0-3) Save - Bob Wickman (9)

Lou Piniella gave the Faithful what they have been looking for....some emotion but not even Piniella's ejection in the 8th could spark his team to victory. The Cubs are flat and continued their downward spiral against the Braves, dropping their 6th in a row....the longest current streak in baseball. Once again the Cubs out hit their opponent but were thrown out twice at 3rd base, including the play Piniella was ejected on. Alfonso Soriano hit his first homerun since May 11th but the Cubs were not able to score after loading the bases with 1-out in the 4th inning, on the day they were 0-5 with runners in scoring position.

Rich Hill pitched very well but a leadoff walk and his error in the 4th led to a 3-run inning for the Braves and he left after the 7th with the game tied. Will Ohman gave up the second leadoff walk on the day in the 8th inning that came around to score the eventual winning run and Michael Wuertz served up a homerun in the 9th to Andruw Jones that gave the Braves pen more than they would need.

It was "Vintage Lou" in the 8th inning but unfortunately after his tirade, the "fans" in attendance littered the outfield and caused a 7-minute delay....whatever fire Piniella may have lit in the dugout was extinguished by the classless act. After battling back to tie the game in the 7th, the Braves took the lead in the top of the 8th. Rafael Soriano took the mound to start the bottom of the inning and Angel Pagan greeted him with a double into the right field corner. Pagan held at 2nd (Quade was waiving him to 3rd and Pagan did not look at his coach) with the arm of Jeff Francoeur in right. With Jacque Jones at bat, Soriano uncorked a wild pitch that bounced in front of the plate but was blocked by Jarrod Saltalmacchia and did not roll as far as Pagan had thought. Saltalmacchia fired to 3rd and a quick tag by Yunel Escobar kept Pagan from reaching the bag. Pagan and Mike Quade thought he was safe and started arguing with Mark Wegner. Piniella ran out of the dugout, said a few words, took his cap off, threw it to the ground and was ejected by Wegner. The two were nose to nose, while Piniella repeatedly kicked what dirt he could find before eventually taking his frustration out on his cap....he kicked it several times. Bruce Froemming stepped in between and actually touched Piniella while trying to calm the situation. Piniella could be suspended, after the game Froemming claimed Piniella kicked Mark Wegner.

After the delay, Jones was ahead 2-0 in the count but eventually looked at strike three for the second time on the afternoon when his team needed him to do his job. The Cubs went quietly in the 9th despite a 1-out single by Alfonso Soriano. Ryan Theriot (1-5 with a run) struck out and Derrek Lee (0-4 with a walk) grounded out to Escobar to end the game. The Cubs left 9 on base and outplayed the Braves in several facets of the game but again they could not put together a complete team effort....the Cubs are 3-15 against the Braves since 2005.

Rich Hill faced the minimum through the first 3 innings of the game before giving up a leadoff walk to Martin Prado (the Cubs pitching staff walked two on the afternoon, both leadoff walks and both scored). Yunel Escobar attempted to sacrifice Prado to 2nd but Hill fielded the ball and threw to 2nd attempting to get the lead runner. The throw from Hill was low and hit the sliding Prado in the face....runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and the Cubs once solid defense continued its recent struggles, the 5th game in a row with at least one error.

Edgar Renteria doubled to left on a 2-2 count to score Prado and Andruw Jones grounded out to Derrek Lee to score Escobar, Renteria advanced to 3rd on the play....talking about a productive out. With the infield in, Hill struck out Francoeur swinging but Matt Diaz hit a very good pitch for a double into left center....Hill kept the ball down but Diaz went down and pulled it into the gap. Saltalmacchia popped out to Lee to end the inning but the Braves scored 3 times on 2 hits, a walk and an error.

Hill scattered two more hits before turning the ball over to the bullpen in the 8th and finished his day giving up 3 runs, 1 earned, on 4 hits, 1 walk and 6 strikeouts on 97 pitches, 66 for strikes.

Will Ohman took the mound in the 8th and after starting 0-2 to Scott Thorman, he ended up walking him to start the inning. Chris Woodward sacrificed him to 2nd and Prado popped out to Derrek Lee in foul ground in the visitors' bullpen. Yunel Escobar, who made his Major League debut, doubled to left with 2 outs to score the go ahead run....his first career RBI. Ohman was lifted for Bob Howry who retired Renteria to end the inning. Michael Wuertz gave up a home run to Andruw Jones on his first pitch before striking out the side in the 9th.

The Cubs' offense continued their slump with runners in scoring position. In the 2nd, Aramis Ramirez lead off the inning with a single to center and Jacque Jones walked 2 outs later but Koyie Hill could not come through and grounded out to short to end the inning. In the 4th, Ramirez singled to center with 1-out and Mark DeRosa followed with a single to right. Angel Pagan walked on 4 pitches to load the bases....with 1-out. Jacque Jones swung at the first 2 pitches of his at bat that were well out of the strike zone (question, why was Jones swinging at all until James threw a strike, he had just given up back-to-back singles before walking Pagan on 4 pitches?) Jones ended up looking at strike 3 and on a 2-2 count, Koyie Hill flied out to left to end the inning.

Alfonso Soriano hit a home run with 1-out in the 5th....the blast was estimated at 420' and went well on to Waveland Avenue for his 5th on the year. Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez walked but DeRosa struck out on the third pitch of his at bat. Koyie Hill recorded his first hit as a Cub with 2 outs in the 6th and scored on a double to right center by Rich Hill. Hill was thrown out at 3rd while trying to stretch a double into a triple....it was a bad decision by Hill, he ignored the stop sign by Mike Quade and the "Adventures in Baserunning" continued for this team.

In the 7th, Ryan Theriot singled to right with 1-out and advanced to 2nd on a wild throw from Tyler Yates on a pickoff attempt at 1st. Ramirez followed with a shot that Martin Prado was unable to handle at 2nd and Theriot scored to tie the game.

With Cliff Floyd and Matt Murton both nursing injuries on Saturday, Lou Piniella had very little options of his bench, especially against the left-hander James on the mound to start the game.

The Cubs are a game short of being swept at home by both the Marlins and Braves and will turn to Sean Marshall to end the losing streak against Lance Cormier.

  • Hubert

    Yeah, I spent a semester abroad in Europe...Absinthe is illegal cuz it makes you hallucinate and shit like that.

  • Trevor

    Hubert: Absynthe?? Isn't that stuff pretty much flat out illegal in the U.S. unless they take out the main ingredient?

  • Gene

    Jim H, you hit the nail on the head (Although I have never been on the Murton bandwagon, he is one of the few on this team that works the count.)!



    Aaron, we have agreed on many points together and again I agree with you! Thanks for sharing the article, The front office is just a smoke and mirror show that is trying to save their jobs (not working guys).



    Before I found out about this site, I was begging for the Cubs to get rid of Dusty, Kimm, Rothchild and their strength and conditioning program. I also was heart broken by three events; 1. Maddux being traded again. 2. The hiring of Pinella. 3. Big Z not receiving a long term deal. 1)Maddux should have assumed the player/pitching coach position. 2)Girardi should have been hired to build a future. 3)(This one I may have been wrong on, but I wasn't really heart broken but rather I was frustrated) I felt that with Z's emotional history, he would let the non signing effect his performance. TA DA! Is it really his mechanics, his emotions or his attitutde? Trade him NOW!



    Jim H and Aaron, Do you think the Cubs would ever entertain the 6 coaches system again? Perhaps we could fill 3 of those spots.



    One final question. Are we still considered the LOVEABLE LOOSERS?



    I too am not living in Chicago. I am trying to clear some time to get to see the Smokies (AA) this week. If I do, I will suggest some additional roster moves! :-)

  • Hubert

    1) Fine, I won't call that one statement retarded, as I only called one statement retarded. Howabout, a statement made under the influence of too much absinth.



    2) So Barry Bonds hasn't proven anything? Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Dan Marino, John Stockton and so on haven't proven anything? That's bullcrap. Karl Malone is probably the best 4 in NBA history, Dan Marino, one of the greatest QB's. There are plenty of past and present Cubs that haven't proven anything according to your basis of "proving something".



    3) Proving something is showing you have the baseball skills to be consistent and be a force in this game. You're telling me someone with 483 career HR's, a CAREER avg of .305, a CAREER OPS of .960, and a CAREER SLG of .574 OVER an 11 year career hasn't proven anything? Bullshit. Not proven are people like Felix Pie, Alex Gordon, Delmon Young, and almost any hitter for the Diamondbacks. Proven people are people that year in and year out produce.



    4) Felix Pie > Soriano was a pretty bad statement as well. He strikes out just as much, but with less power, so essentially you'd switch our leadoff hitter with a 7-hole hitter.



    5) Derek Jeter proved he was a slap hitter who was surrounded by 150+ million dollar payroll. He didn't prove he was an offense powerhouse.



    6) Soriano has 13 RBI's? I don't really care. He had 95 RBI's last year after hitting those 46 HR's last year. He hits LEADOFF. He isn't going to get 100RBI's. Sure he's underperforming, but not to the extent that you make it. He is far from the source of this team's problems.

  • Jim H.

    Elliot, I completely agree with you abut AROD. Sure, he puts up monster individual stats but he is another example of a "me-first" player that hasn't helped any of his teams win a World Series. As a related side note, I said the Cubs were the most pathetic team in baseball earlier but I think that title might actually belong to the Rangers. The Cubs are trying really hard to steal that crown though.



    We, as Cubs fans, should know that its not about the individual stats as much as it is about about finding ways to win as a team and playing smart baseball. Just like baron said the Cubs look like the should be winning ON PAPER this year but they aren't. Arod is not going to help anything. If you want to continue building a team in this same fashion, sure lets emulate Texas again, trade for Arod. But I'd much rather take my chances with Ramirez and Theriot over there.



    Btw, I dont think that was me you saw in Chipotle, but thats pretty funny! I actually dont own a Cubs shirt (sorry!) but Portland is definitely a small enough town that it couldve been. Do you live near here or something?



    Aaron, thanks for the props. I enjoy your posts in general as well. Eric Patterson didn't do much when I saw him this week, but thats definitely a small sample size. I think he is going to be getting a lot more playing time in the outfield if Pie has been called up and Buck Coats I think hurt his foot or something last night because he came out and didnt play tonight either.



    I totally agree that the "win now" thing is complete horseshit. It just isnt going to happen by buying a bunch of new players and calling it a team. Plain and simple. But no one has patience because the Cubs haven't won for so long. This team has no chemistry and as much as I like looking at stats, they can only tell you so much. I saw Barrett's quote about how he loves Zambrano like a brother and this is sibling rivalry or whatever. Is he kidding? Is this all just a big joke? Because if someone in the Cubs organization just comes forward and admits this was all a big joke, I promise I'll start laughing. Because its pretty freaking hilarious.



    But yeah, in all seriousness, keep exactly the 8 players Aaron named and trade or release the rest. I guarantee you these players values are not at all time high so trade intelligently for prospects. Is Hendry capable of that? Maybe.



    Anyway this is probably all just a pipe dream and the Cubs will continue to embarass themselves and their fans. The true fans I mean. Sorry if this is heresy but I don't count the people that use Wrigley as the largest bar in Chicago as Cubs fans. Continuing to support failure and indifference from the ownership is not loyalty. I had read the article Aaron linked as well as a number of similar ones and its just sad. Like I said before, the hope for this team lies in the farm system and the sooner the people in charge realize it the better.

  • baron

    You reach a point where even posters on message boards get prickly, myself included.



    When do we stop getting upset over the failure of this team. There is endless optimism despite the fact that we haven't been a good team in 4 YEARS!



    I was running all kinds of splits on the Cubs stats on yahoo sports -- its inexplicable -- they are not in the bottom half of the league in any statistical category but losses. Its beyond pitching and hitting. They don't believe they can win. Its really strange, although thoroughly predictable

  • Elliot

    Hubert,



    First of all, please don't call my statements retarded, as I never have done the same to you.



    Second, "proving something" in this game means winning a championship in my book. Maybe you are a die-hard fantasy baseball guy who has become disillusioned with statistics. I say that A-Rod hasn't proven anything because look at his career. When he was in Seattle, he put up monster numbers, and yet his Mariners (with quite a talented core of Edgar Martinez, Jay Buhner, Ken Griffey and I'm sure i'm missing a few other future HOF's) pretty much sucked. The year he leaves for Texas, the Mariners put up a record season. And in Texas, yes, he continued to be a fantasy baseball owner's dream. But Texas was right there with the Royals. And now it's looking like he seems to be the best weapon baseball was looking for to stop the Yankee's championship run. Has he EVER won a world series ring? No. On the other hand, how many does Derek Jeter have again?



    Third, I was not upset at A-Ram for not hustling down first base last year. I've never been upset with him. Personally, he's a guy who shuts his mouth and plays the game. So please don't put words in my mouth that I was outraged last year, and now I'm praising him.



    Finally, Soriano is not doing "fine except for the power." The man has 13 rbi's. That's as many as Juan Pierre. Personally, I don't care if he hits 50 home runs or hits 5 for the rest of the season. Drive in some damn baserunners please. And quit striking out on 3 pitches. Am I the only person that gets frustrated with impatient hitters?

  • Aaron

    Jim H.,



    WOW!! Finally, someone else on here with the guts to say what is reality right now. I've been saying it since Spring Training, and most everyone thought "it's too early"...Well, now ESPN, foxsports, tribune, etc.---all the so-called "experts", including fans like you and me, have noticed this team wasn't built to win this year, and was off to a terrible start in spring training to begin with. ESPN's Gene Wojciechowski wrote a phenomenal article about the Cubs and I suggest you all read it...here's the link:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2890891



    Jim H.,

    Again, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say, and I've probably been the most pessimistic on this site about the season, and it turns out I was actually right the whole time----that Hendry didn't give Lou a fighting chance with a roster full of free swinging guys without a clue how to hit in the clutch, and a relief corps that features two vastly overpaid and overrated "setup men" in Howry and Eyre, a question mark for the 5th spot in the rotation, and a staff ace that is easily distracted, and had yet to have a big distraction (contract extension) taken care of long ago.



    I don't know if many of you remember, but in Spring Training, I was already suggesting that this team didn't have what it took to win, and that not all of the big guys would produce to expectations. I specifically singled out Lee and his lack of power. I suggested that it could be the result of a weaker wrist, and lo and behold, it appears that might be the case. I also worried about Soriano, and sure enough, his power is lacking. The only one I wasn't worried about was ARAM, and he's certainly produced pretty much all of our offense.



    Now, I know I'll probably catch a lot of flack for those comments, but I hope you will understand it was not about me touting anything, it was just to say that the writing was already on the wall. This team, plain and simple, is NOT built to win now. See, the Cubs marketing juggernaut has fooled us our entire lives by claiming "this is the year"---and we've always believed them, but let's be honest----who was saying "this team is built to win now"? Yes, that's right, McDonough, Hendry, and Piniella. And just why should we believe any of them? Piniella failed miserably in Tampa, won a WS with the Reds ONE year---which I guess makes you a savior in Cubdom, and Hendry and McDonough are the other part of the Three Stooges that made up the Cubs hierarchy the past few seasons and we won NOTHING.



    Jim H., you're absolutely right about the I-Cubs. We've seen what guys like Floyd, Jones, Izzy, Barrett, Eyre, Howry, Ohman, Dempster, and let's not forget the biggest bonehead of them all---Big Z---not have performed to expectations, and none of them deserve a spot on the team for what they've done. Barrett's not even hitting well, and he's only playing because he's an offensive catcher. Z is hoping for an ace-like payday, but he's pitching like a 5th starter at best. Eyre and Howry were brought in to seal the game up late, got huge contracts as far as relievers go, and proceeded to have a good 3/4 of a year last year, then started falling apart, and continued to do so in spring, and have continued on the same path in the regular season, and yet most seem surprised?!?!?!? ditto Ohman, but without a big contract. We traded a future HOFamer, and still a solid 4th/5th starter in any rotation, for a career offensively challenged shortstop when we needed offense probably equally as much as pitching (again, you gotta scratch your head at that one, and don't give me the bogus---"doing it for Maddux's sake", because he stated he actually wanted to finish it out with the Cubs)



    I was begging for the Cubs not to stop at Soriano, and still sign Carlos Lee, and have an OF of Lee in LF, Pie in CF, and Soriano in RF with Murton and Pagan as subs, and all Lee has done this year is hit to the tune of .317 avg .350 OBP, 10 hr, and 49 rbi....Oh, and did I mention---he actually WANTED to play for the Cubs, and killed the ball playing at Wrigley all the time.



    Look, with the Cubs stated "win now" theory, and obvious lack of faith in Murton as an everyday player (as evidenced by the signing of Floyd), then wouldn't it have been better to just go with Lee.



    Anyway, it doesn't matter, and I've rambled enough...I just want to say props to you Jim H. You are absolutely right on with everything you said. Izzy, Cedeno, Miller, Jones, Ohman, and Floyd never should've been on our opening day roster to begin with, and I'd even argue that Eyre and Howry shouldn't have either.



    Jim, your lineup was perfect, except I'd just leave Soriano in the leadoff given his historical figures from that spot, and I'd move Theriot to 2nd, and move Pie to the 5 hole, because he can definitely drive in runs. IMO, I think the 5 most deserving call-ups from AAA are (in order) Pie, Fontenot, Pignatiello, Soto, and Patterson. If you bring up Pie, you can get rid of Jones. If you bring up Fontenot, you get rid of Izzy. If you bring up Soto, you get rid of Barrett, and if you bring up Pignatiello, you get rid of Eyre/Howry/Ohman, and for Patterson, you get rid of Floyd.



    That's called a fire sale my friends, and that's the only thing right now that makes any sense to right the ship. You keep a core of ARAM, Lee, Soriano, Theriot, Lilly, Marquis, Hill, and Marshall, and you sell everything else. That way you keep the core of your lineup together and the core of your rotation, and you start over with the other parts that obviously aren't working.

  • Hubert

    Wait..wait..wait. A-Rod hasn't proven anything? Other than the fact that he puts up monster offensive stats YEAR after YEAR...uh huh. Please..that is quite possibly the most retarded statement I've ever heard.



    Two, A-Rod is not coming in a trade. Period.



    Three, Jeter has made mental baseball mistakes. He's made just as many errors, if not close to A-Rod's amount this year.



    Four, this time last year you were probably outraged over A-Ram's "lack of hustle", and now you are praising him.



    Five, yes, you're gonna try and trade a guy with a 136 million dollar, no trade clause contract in Soriano..and honestly, he is doing fine except for the lack of power, which I might add, is what D-Lee is doing also.



    And no..Brian Cashman would not give up Phil Hughes for Carlos Zambrano.

  • Elliot

    Hey Jim you're from Portland? I was in Portland about 4 weeks ago for my buddies bachelor party. He's a resident physician at OHSU. Anyways, we were going to Chipotle and I saw a dude with a Cubs shirt and hat. I bet that was you!!!



    Hehe, anyways, Jim, I agree with you that a fire sale could be in order, and is actually appropriate at this point. We are 1/3 through the season. And we seem to be getting worse every game. Zambrano's trade value is still high, and teams would probably trade top notch prospects (Phil Hughes) for him. I think there are still a few teams out there who might bite if Soriano was dangled in front of them. I've never been a fan of him or his impatience at the plate, and my cubbie loyalty was challenged by many of you when I voiced my disgust with his signing. But he's a proven loser. The Texas Rangers were no better with him than they were with A-Rod (who's also been a proven loser all his career), and the Washington Nationals finished dead last when he played for them. So I'd actually take Felix Pie and his crazy strikeout to walk ratio over Soriano right now because his teams win whenever he plays.



    The same goes for A-Rod. I know many of you guys would love to see him in Cubbie blue, but I think that is the problem with us. We look for high profile players that remind us of Sammy Sosa. I mean, c'mon... look seriously at the guys that everybody on this site drools about at night: Alex Rodriguez and Miguel Tejada. Both of those players have proven nothing in their careers, but we consistently look for that big name signing. Maybe we should all look for players that know how to play fundamental baseball. When was the last time you heard of Jeter making a mental baseball mistake? Or Bonds? Or Sizemore? Or Ichiro? Or the Jones' down in Atlanta? When I look for a player, I look for guys who play the game smart. not the guys who set records. Like Derrek Lee. Aramis Ramirez. Guys who don't extend themselves past their abilities, but maximize their talents. Guys who play smart baseball. That is the problem with the Cubs. It's not Lou Piniella's fault. Players at this level don't make drastic changes. I guy like Soriano will never learn patience because he thinks he doesn't have to. And Jacque Jones is so frickin stupid and apathetic that you couldn't get Rudy Rutiger to motivate him. So yes, a fire sale must be conducted. A core must be maintained of course, and that "core" is up to much debate. But personally, the only guys who I think deserve to stick around are Lee, A-Ram, Murton, and Theriot. Everybody else must go. Dirt cheap.



    BTW, I think it would be appropriate at this point to say that we were all GROSSLY misled when we thought we could succeed this season without a healthy Wood and Prior. Just a thought.

  • Jim H.

    Did the Cubs call up Pie? He is not in the lineup tonight in Tacoma, nor is he listed on the roster on the Iowa Cubs website...

  • Jim H.

    I'm embarrassed to be a Cubs fan. I don't live in Chicago (though I'm from Illinois and nearly all my family lives there) so its a little different for me. I walk around Portland with a Cubs hat on but what does that say about me? That I dont mind being a fan of the most pathetic team in baseball? That I like to watch Jacques Jones strike out and ground into double plays in key situations? That I like to see our players and managers take out their frustrations on each other, the Wrigley Field dirt, and their own ballcaps? That I associate myself with the people who sit in the bleachers and throw trash onto the field? Well I don't.



    I'll tell you what though, I wasn't embarrassed to be a Cubs fan at PGE Park here in Portland for the last few days. The Iowa Cubs were in town playing the Portland Beavers and I went to the games Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday nights. Iowa won all three games and are now 32-22. Felix Pie is hitting .400, got on base at least twice in every game and needs to be playing in Chicago. His arm is amazing and his speed, well we've all seen it before.



    I could see Mike Fontenot playing 2B for the Cubs over DeRosa. I would much rather see Rocky Cherry, Clay Rapada, Neal Cotts, and Carmen Pignatiello in the Cubs bullpen than Howry, Eyre, or Ohman. They may not be superstars but I'd much rather give them a chance than continue down this road we're on now.



    I saw Koyie Hill on Wednesday right before he got called up and he was 2 for 4 with an RBI double. I'm not sure he, Soto, or especially Jake Fox are the answer behind the plate long term but I'd rather watch any of them than Michael Barrett at this point. I'm sick of having a catcher that anyone can run on and that can't catch the ball. So yeah, maybe Fox is out but at least he can hit. Havent seen Barrett do much of that lately.



    I'm all for getting rid of Zambrano. He reminds of Sosa's "me-first" attitude. I"m sick of him not being able to "control his emotions". What is he 5 years old? Get rid of him.



    I completely agree that the Cubs need a fire sale, right now. There are still bright spots on this team which is why I haven't completely jumped ship yet. Although there hasnt been much to show for it wins-wise this year I think the Lilly, Marquis, and Soriano signings were ok. Even if Soriano is grossly overpaid.



    So here is what probably won't happen but SHOULD so I can start feeling better about being a Cubs fan. Ship everyone out for prospects and continue the season with a lineup like this:



    SS Theriot

    CF Pie

    1B Lee

    3B Ramirez

    LF Soriano

    RF Pagan

    2B Fontenot

    C Hill, K.



    Keep Lilly, Marquis, Marshall, and Rich Hill for the rotation but we'll need to trade for another RHP. We have a lot of lefties in AAA, both pitchers and position players.



    I dont mind Ward but this all amounts to trading or releasing:



    Zambrano, Murton, Eyre, Howry, Jones, Ohman, DeRosa, Izturis, and Floyd.



    If the Cubs are going to play like and post the record of a minor league team playing in the Majors, we might as well give the guys in AAA who are winning together a chance to do better. I'm not big on Ronny Cedeno so trade him or keep him as a bench player. Thats one thing Lou doesnt seem to understand. He keeps talking about "being fair" and getting people playing time but bench players are bench players for a reason! And the fact is that Jacque Jones is a bench player at best. I'd actually hate to see him as a pinch-hitter. Ouch.



    I know Soriano's best stats are as a leadoff hitter. They are not so good batting second, but actually they aren't much worse in the 5 spot. Did we expect Rich Hill to get on base for him today so that solo shot could be a 2-run blast? Come on! Actually he does only have 5 HR so far so maybe the power is gone for whatever reason.



    There is a lot to be said for "growing" a team using the farm system. Thats how the Brewers got to be where they are right now. Paying top player for top players like the Yankees, and paying top dollar for average to above-average players like Cubs does not win you a World Series. We have a lot of young talent and I think we're all sick of it being traded away for mediocre veterans or wasting away in Iowa like Pie is doing right now. How much more experience hitting minor pitching does he need!? He will never learn to hit major league pitchers in the minor leagues.



    Anyway this is probably like way long, so I apologize for the lengthy diatribe. I can't take much more of this. The I-Cubs are in Tacoma tonight so maybe I'll just subscribe to the Minor League package online and start watching them instead.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    No way can the Cubs be this bad. This is just off the charts. They are on a pace to loose 96 games again. I can not believe what has happened to this team.

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