Where My O At?

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Most teams in major league baseball would love to have two established productive power hitters, such as Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee. When Lee went down with an injury, an already questionably built Cubs team went down in flames in 2006. A healthy Lee, by himself, practically assured the 2007 club of being improved offensively. Then Jim "Spendry" Hendry shocked the Cubs Faithful by adding one of the top offensive weapons in the game, in his prime, in Alfonso Soriano. Suddenly the Cubs had three offensive stars in their lineup, and it was easy to dream up pre-season predictions of the Cubs scoring runs at a record pace. Who needs good pitching with these three guys in the lineup, right? You know better....

The Saving Grace....

Matt Murton was christened by many Cubs fans as the next Mark Grace. While it can be fairly argued that Murton hasn't been given the consistent at-bats needed to improve his game, or his defense in the field, the Big Murt simply hasn't taken advantage of the opportunities he has had so far this year. Maybe Jack Nicholson was referring to Murton when he said, "What if this is as good as it gets?"

Todd Hundley Part Deux

Jacque Jones is killing me slowly with his lack of production. He is also killing the outfield grass at Wrigley by continually pelting it with his throws to home plate. The Cubs Faithful is forced to speculate that Jones is still being trotted out there to raise his trade value, but that argument holds no merit. Baseball GM's know what Jones can and can't do, and they don't need to see another at-bat by Jones to form an opinion on him. My feeling is that Hendry doesn't like to admit his mistakes until a player has performed at such a horrible level that no sane person could possible defend his taking up a roster spot. Good teams put the best possible players on the field, as much as possible. No matter who manages the Cubs, this philosophy is never followed. Year after year, I have watched the Todd Hundleys, Todd Hollandsworths, and Todd Walkers of the world receiving inexplicably large doses of playing time, despite the obvious offensive or defensive flaws in their game. We tend to dump the lousy player (like Corey Patterson) or the lousy manager (like Dusty Baker) only after the season is over, as if we are more concerned with saving them embarrassment of receiving a mid-season kick to the curb, than we are with improving our team and winning a championship. For the betterment of our beloved Cubs team, and for world peace, the environment, and less traffic, the entire planet cries out for the removal of Jones from this Cubs team. Hopefully Hendry will do the right thing soon.

Scrappers and Just Plain Crap

I know Fontenot has done a nice job so far, but this guy isn't the answer to our middle-infielder offensive black hole. Ramirez could not possibly heal quick enough in my opinion, because that will mean one less day of reading lineup cards then end with some combination of: Barrett, Hill, Jones, Izturis, Fontenot, Blanco, Pagan, and DeRosa. Sweet Jesus....that is a lousy bottom of the order! Don't forget that a pitcher still has to follow that mess as well! We need an upgrade at 2B or SS, and hopefully that is fulfilled with a big trade by Hendry. However, as much as the Cubs claim their pending sale doesn't restrict them from making financial decisions, it is fairly apparent from the stalled Zambrano talks, and the fact that they bypassed an expensive catching prospect in the recent draft for a more signable high school kid, that the Cubs have cut up Jim Spendry's Visa card. Our catcher position is in shambles, thanks to a mentally deteriorating Michael Barrett. He could still pick up his game offensively, as he hit well last year, but I wonder if he has gotten into too big a funk, confidence-wise, due to his lousy batting and the seemingly constant complaints by his pitching staff of his incompetency in calling a game behind the plate. I like Theriot, but he won't be nearly as productive sandwiched between Koyie Hill and Mike Fontenot as he was between Soriano and Lee. Felix Pie is doing a good job, and he does benefit from being before Lee, so I would definitely leave him there....each and every game....so no spot starts by Pagan!!! If Juan Pierre can play every game every single year, then so can Pie and our other starters. Quit resting people and get some consistency in the lineup already!

The Three-Man Band....

Forgive my rambling up to this point, but I am simply trying to show that as great as Soriano, Ramirez, and Lee can be, they are useless if other guys can't get on base consistently. This is why I think Murton or Floyd need to get all the at-bats ASAP, as they get on base, unlike Jones. We need to keep giving Theriot everyday at-bats, and see if he is an everyday player or not. DeRosa gets to start; only because Izturis can't hit....but he is really a good backup, and Hendry should have known better when he penciled DeRosa is as a starter for no good reason. I pray a deal for a catcher somehow falls into Hendry's lap, but that is really unrealistic, so my other hope is that Barrett remembers how to hit really, really soon.

Final Thoughts

If Barrett can get his average up to .285-.290, I think he will at least make up for his defensive lapses. The pitching staff looks like the real deal, and Marshall and Hill should give the Cubs great hope into the future, as lefties can pitch a long, long time in this league (just ask former Cub, Jamie Moyer!) So if the starters can stay consistent, and the bullpen continues to improve, I think the only concern is if, and when, our offense truly starts to jell. We need a healthy Ramirez, of course, but if Pie and Theriot can just stay above .270, and we keep Jones off the field, and Lou puts out the same lineup over and over, then I really like our chances to win this division. After all, the Brew Crew was all hype (told you so!) Until next time, CCO Readers, let's hope Lilly makes it past the first inning in his next start, that Barrett gets a 3-hit game, and let's go Cubs!

  • nick

    right now I don't care what they all hit in the minors, because right now we are winning and that is all that matters. Plus right now Fontenot has the HOT bat and is driving in runners that's why we want him in there. I don't think any of us were saying these two are the future of the Cubs, but right now they are playing good ball, so keep them in.

    At the beginning of the year, we were talking about team chemistry, well since they have all been called up, it looks like the chemistry might finally be there.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Hubert,

    You are right...Walker didn't fumble the balls he managed to get to, but since he range was lousy, that isn't really saying much. There is more to defense than just error tabulation.

    Through 2006, Fontenot hit a whopping 42 HRs in 2195 minor league at-bats. His average was a respectable .287, and he steals about 4 bases a year it looks like.

    Ronny Cedeno hit 25 HRs in 1900 at-bats, with a .265 avg in the minors. Ronny stole a litle more than 10 bases a year.

    Of course, the Cubs brought Ronny up when he was "dominating the competition" as well, with a robust .355 avg at Iowa in 2005, after 245 at-bats.

    Theriot showed less power than either of them, in the minors, with slightly more speed than Cedeno, and a batting avg in between the two. Over about 700 at-bats in the minors the past two years, Theriot hit .304.

    By himself, I like Theriot.

    By himself, I like Fontenot.

    But my point continues to be that putting them together, next to a below-average hitting catcher in Koyie Hill, and also next to the pitchers spot in the order, spells for some fairly ugly stretches after our #5 hitter in the order.

    Also...the odds are...no matter how much you, or I, may want all the farmhands to succeed, that only a small percentage of them will turn into productive starters. Think: Bobby Hill, Hee Sop Choi, Jason DuBois, Corey Patterson, etc...

    Be happy that Pie looks like the real deal, and that he is thriving between Soriano and Lee, and that he gives us improved defense in CF.

    Be happy that Rich Hill seems legit, and that Sean Marshall may be the 2007 version of Rich Hill.

    But don't get cocky, and don't get greedy, because you will get burned. Think: 2006 and a rotation full of rookies.

    So be happy with Theriot or Fontenot or Koyie Hill when they play, but don't expect long-term success if all three stay in the lineup at the same time for extended periods.

    The smarter move is for Hendry to upgrade at either catcher or at SS or 2B.

    Some trade chips are: Jones, Izzy, misc farmhands, etc...

    Oh...almost forgot...Gruds had a better avg since 2003 than Walker. The Cubs stuck with the wrong guy.

  • Hubert

    Walker wasn't horrible defensively at 2B. In three seasons with the Cubs he only made like 17 total errors at 2B. And a .285 average lifetime..his average is actually .289 lifetime, with gap to gap power, and in the majors, .289 is a pretty good lifetime average...

    Don't even compare Fontenot to Cedeno. Fontenot has better power, makes more contanct, and doesn't strikeout as often. Even in the minors, this was the case.

    Also, what the hell else are you gonna do with a dude hitting .340 with a .387 OBP in AAA? Obviously not keep him there..he was obviously dominating that competition..

  • Austin

    Todd Walker was very, very good offensively, but he sucked in the field...But as for 2B, I think DeRosa is good enough to play everyday, he is pretty clutch and a solid defender. It seems to me like he hits a LOT of line drive outs, a very good sign...

    What we need is a cather, and I think any catcher who can hit .250 with good defense will be better than Barrett...wait!!!! His name is HENRY BLANCO! Get rid of Barrett, we have Blanco (remember when he played every day at the end of the year last season, he did pretty well...not to mention his Defense...)

  • daverj

    Dave, Saltalamacchia is a great idea. The only problem is that the Cubs don't have the talent it would take to pry to best catching prospect in baseball from the Braves. The only comparable prospect we have is Pie and I highly doubt either team would make that swap. Nothing else in our organization would get it done. The Braves will likely turn Saltalamachhia into a First Baseman (he's been taking grounders there over the last month) and deal Thorman.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Hubert,

    Fontenot has, what, a week under his belt, and he is the answer? Cedeno had a pretty good stretch two years ago for a few months, but he hasn't panned out. You can't take a lifetime farmhand with a lifetime mediocre minor-league average, and allow a nice hot streak to cloud your long-term judgement. Yes...some guys do "figure it out" later in their careers, but the odds say Fontenot is just riding a hot bat at the moment.

    Also, nostalgia can create false memories, but Todd Walker was getting slammed regularly, in the press, and on this site, for his horrible defense, and he was not as good offensively in his last year and a half as he was when the Cubs first got him. When he was hot, he was hot, but otherwise he was a slow, below-average defensive player, that could hit about 15 homers max, who hit around .285 lifetime. Just because he looked like a ballplayer, doesn't mean he was really all that good. The Cubs would have been better served to have kept Grudzielanek, but Walker was a left-handed bat, so he was given the nod by management.

    Gene,

    In the strong-up-the-middle category, a former gold-glove winner, Cesar Izturis, would seem to make sense. The problem is, if you play Pie in the #2 spot (which I like) then you are forced to play your weaker-hitting SS and 2B players next to each other at the bottom of the order. Combine that with the current offensive woes at C, and further combine it with Jones if he is starting, and you can see what a mess the bottom of the order can be. That is why I would like to see a good upgrade at 2B or SS. I think Theriot can do enough with his bat and speed to warrant playing the other mid-infield position, but we need an upgrade alongside him. DeRosa and Fontenot are good backups.

    Derrick Lee is a power hitter. That includes such things as doubles...not just homers. His career slugging % is around .500, and that is where he is at right now. His wrist is likely still regaining strength, and homers do come in bunches, so I think he will finish with close to 30 homers, still.

    Dave,

    That is a great call on the Braves's catcher. That is the kind of thinking that, hopefully, Trader Jim Hendry has going through his brain right now!

    Everyone should be happy that Marshall, Hill, Pie, and even Theriot are all contributing well right now. But don't push your luck, and don't get unrealistic...you can't win at the big-league level with your whole AAA team playing for you. The Marlins had great talent last year, and they still finished under .500.

    We have Soriano, Lee, Ramirez, and Pie as fixtures, I believe, for the next few years. The pieces put around them need to be productive. I would much rather see the Cubs go the smart route the Dodgers seem to always take, and throw some productive veterans into the mix, versus filling SS, 2B, C, and RF all with rookies. That is why if you can't trade for a good catcher, I think we really need Barrett to remember how to hit asap, and we need to let Floyd or Murton play everyday, and Pagan can pinch-run once in while, but that is it.

    Soriano

    Pie

    Lee

    Ramirez

    Floyd

    Barrett

    DeRosa

    Theriot

    P

    That is your strongest lineup...let's hope Lou realizes it soon.

  • Dave in STL

    Trading Jones & Izturis is the right thing to do, you all are correct. However, the problem has been and continues to be, Jim Spendry doesn't want to be forced to pick up a good portion of Jones' contract. The only way the Cubs will get anything in the way of a serviceable minor leaguer for JJ is if they agree to pick up at least 50% of the remaining dollars on his deal. Even John Daniels isn't dumb enough to acquire Jones w/out it being on the cheap. I say the Cubs look into what it would take to pry Jarrod Saltalamachia away from the Braves... good, young catcher w/ an explosive bat.. but he's blocked by McCann and his HUGE dollars... start the deal w/ Marmol?

  • Gene

    Oops! Definetly agree with Hubert and Nick on Walker!!!

  • Gene

    Oops! Definetly agree on Walker!!!

  • nick

    As far as I am concerned and this is just my opinion, but Theriot and Fontenot have done nothing but perform, so why do we need to get rid of them so fast, they are scrappy players, and that is what this team needs to go along with Lee, Ramirez, and Soriano.

    Hubert I agree with you on Walker I was always a fan of him, and so was my wife, but that is another subject.

    But we need to get rid on Jones and Izzy. Last night in our softball league one of our guys hit the ball to right field and our baserunner on second was heading home, when the right fielder picked up the ball and threw it directly into the ground, my friend nd I both looked at each other and said "Jaque?!"

    Lets go Cubbies and take the series.

  • I have been preaching forever that the Cubs must be strong up the middle! It is defense first!!! A combination of offense is a bonus. SS/2B can survive with one average to above average player if there is some extra offense spark in one of those positions, but defense is first.

    Centerfield is starting to become one of our strongest positions. We need to have a consistent double play combination. Fontenot may or may not be the answer, but extended playing time with Theriot (his longtime friend) may help both and solidify the middle infield. Izzy is not an answer and a poor tradeoff for Maddux (who in my opinion should be the pitching coach of this team as well as on the roster). DeRosa is a nice reserve addition, but I am not certain this was much of an upgrade over Nefi. We need a new plan behind the plate (enough said)! Starting pitching is adequate, but the relief core is in need of major HELP!

    Offensively, this team needs to hit with men on base and work the count. I was not a big Murton fan, but he did work the count well. Hopefully, he will get more playing time in Iowa, improve his stroke and become a valuable trade prospect. Hendry does need to fall on the sword and get a couple of good prospects for JJ. I am not optimistic that many of my thoughts will be acted upon, until the Cubs are sold. I guess my biggest question is, will the sale of the Cubs and a contract get done before Big Z walks?????

  • Hubert

    Fontenot is a better asset to the Cubs than Theriot is , honestly. Theriot, like Murton is a GROUNDOUT machine.

    There is no debate for RF. Floyd has by far outperformed anyone else that is vying for the third OF spot.

    Don't include Todd Walker in the equation of people who sucked for the Cubs. His defense was average, and he hit .290-.300 while in a Cubbie uniform.

    D-Lee is a power hitter? Please tell me what part of having 6 HR at this point in the season describes power hitting?

    If getting on base a lot as a middle infielder and playing solid defense is not the answer to our issue at 2B and SS then what is? LOL. Please back up that statement just a little better when bashing Fontenot for no reason, who has done nothing but smack the ball around.

    Agree about JJ..Frenchy is trying my patience.

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