Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Brewers - 04/23/07

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Game Nineteen: Cubs (7-11) vs. Brewers (11-7)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T. WCIU, WGN Radio, XM Radio Channel 185
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Carlos Zambrano (1-2, 7.77/1.86) vs. Claudio Vargas (1-0, 3.46/1.09)

Updated - 6:10pm C.T. - The Cubs recalled Rocky Cherry from Triple-A Iowa and put Wade Miller on the 15-day DL with back spasms before Monday's game.

Updated - 8:40pm C.T. - Mark Prior, on Tuesday, will undergo a diagnostic arthroscopy on his right shoulder in Birmingham with Dr. James Andrews.

Updated - 8:40pm C.T. - Angel Guzman is expected to be recalled from Triple-A Iowa to replace Wade Miller in the starting rotation....the Cubs will not need a 5th starter until May 1st in Pittsburgh. According to a report on Yahoo.com, Jim Hendry "sounded cautious" about Miller's future with the Cubs.

Carlos Zambrano better bring his "A" game tonight because the Brewers will have a lot to prove after the statement Zambrano made after beating the Brewers on April 7th. That was then and this is now and the two teams have gone in different directions since Zambrano fired the zinger toward the Brewers and especially their offense. The Cubs have struggled to win back-to-back games and the Brewers have won 6 of their last 9, putting themselves atop of the National League Central while the Cubs are currently at the bottom of the division.

The Brewers took the last two games of the series against the Astros after sweeping a 2-game series against the Pirates. Their offense has gotten hot....J.J. Hardy hit home runs in 3 straight games this past week and Bill Hall hit his 4th home run of the season on Sunday. In their last 9 games they have scored 48 runs, but their pitching staff has allowed 50 runs in the same amount of games....the Cubs will need to continue hitting the ball they way the did in the last two games in the Cardinals series if they want to have a winning homestand for the first time this season.

Carlos Zambrano has had a horrible start to the season and after empting the bullpen on Sunday, Lou Piniella will need Zambrano to go deep into the game and show why most consider him the ace of the staff. Zambrano's biggest problem this season is he cannot throw strikes on a consistent basis and has found himself in hitter's counts more often than not. In 22 innings this season (averaging just over 5 innings per start) he has allowed 16 walks and 25 hits, add those numbers to the 3 batters he has hit and that is an unbelievable amount of base runners....44. In his previous start against the Braves last Wednesday night, Zambrano gave up 5 runs on 8 hits and 2 more homeruns to run his season total to 6. The Brewers will be looking to make a point tonight and it is too bad Zambrano could have not made his comments against a team he has actually had success against....8-7 with a 4.17 ERA and a 1.28 WHIP in 17 career games (16 starts) against the Brewers. But in his last 29 innings against the Brewers (2-2) he has allowed 23 runs (21 earned) and has given up 5 home runs.

Alfonso Soriano is reportedly going to make his return to the starting lineup tonight but this time in left field....now the question once again becomes, who's in center?

Claudio Vargas pitched in relief of Dave Bush against the Cubs back on April 6th. Rich Hill dominated the Brewers that Friday night and Bush gave up 6 runs, all in the 1st inning, on 8 hits. Vargas threw 2 innings and gave up 3 runs on 5 hits and a home run to Ronny Cedeno. He pitched very well in his last outing against the Pirates on April 18th and gave up just 2 runs, 1 earned, on 5 hits in 6 innings while striking out 11 and walking just 2. In his 2 starts (11 innings) he has struck out 20 batters and walked 2....great strikeout to walk ratio (10:1). In 5 career games (1 start) against the Cubs, Vargas is 0-2 with a 9.00 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP....12 runs on 16 hits and 4 home runs allowed in 12 innings.

  • Cliff Floyd - 3-7, 2 doubles and a home run
  • Cesar Izturis - 4-12, 2 doubles, 1 triple
  • Aramis Ramirez - 4-10 with a home run
  • Jacque Jones - 2-7 with a home run

The Cubs have to start winning back-to-back games soon and with their "ace" on the hill tonight, it would be a good time to win just one.

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • Anthony

    If you look at last night's game, and the season in full, you might knee-jerkingly point your finger at the bullpen, or Zambrano, or Jones. But if you step back and examine, you will find it is the entire teams fault. Last night, the Cubs offense scored some early runs AGAIN for Zambrano. He was pitching very well with only 30some pitches, 3 KO's and no walks through 3 innings. Sure enough, his first walk came around to score. Sure he left the game with the lead, but he didn't give us the kind of game a NUMBER ONE starter is supposed to. The bullpen did not help out either. I still think we have one of the best pens in baseball, except for Ohman, but when you have them pitching game after game, they are going to give up runs, plain an simple. Then there is the consistent lack of execution with RISP and less than 2 outs. Our defense (Izturis lackadasical play the other day) has cost us some games too.

    As much as any other, baseball is a TEAM sport. Good starting pitching is not only contageous, but it takes pressure off the offense. Scoring runs will usually take pressure off the pitchers. Better starts mean less work and pressure on the bullpen. It's really not that complicated. All these things build, but can KILL momentum and winning. I feel 100 % confident that if Soriano doesn't swing at a pitch headed directly at him, we score runs and win the game in 8.5 innings.

    I still believe the team we have can win, but agree with Aaron and others that if some things don't change it just won't happen (at least soon).

    It has to happen soon too. The bad news is with Sheets pitching tomorrow, we have to win today to avoid the sweep. The good news is as bad as we have played, and it has been pathetic at times, this division is still weak and for the taking. Honestly, one simple streak of 14 games out of 20 and we are back near or at the top !!

  • Chad

    Congratulations Anthony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Agustin Rexach

    Anthony, now it's 3 shirts to one. Just gimme the adress. Total depression. Aaron I don't even wanna hear you. Please let the pain ease off before you rub it. Good Night Cub fans.

    If the games were 5 innings long...we would be leading the division. Pitty

  • Matt....I will work on that....maybe Friday.

  • Austin

    Matt:

    Bullpen. That's it. The bullpen is now 0-6. That's right. 0-6. If we had even won half those games we would be 10-9 and one game back. Pathetic.

  • Austin

    Matt:

    Bullpen. That's it. The bullpen is now 0-6. That's right. 0-6. If we had even won half those games we would be 10-9 and one game back. Pathetic.

  • Trevor

    I hope Santo wasn't watching this game. He needs to de-stress and get better. Watching the Cubs is not the way to do either lately.

  • Matt Haggard

    Neil, could you consider putting up a article and forum discussing what we all believe is wrong with this team?


    On paper we should be doing a way better than this, and I want to peice together what everyone thinks is off.

  • Austin

    I CAN'T F-ING BELIEVE THIS. WE SUCK. WE CAN'T MOVE RUNNERS OVER. WE CAN'T CLOSE OUT GAMES. WE CAN'T SCORE WHEN IT COUNTS. OUR BULLPEN IS A PIECE OF SHIT. WE BETTER PULL THIS TOGETHER FAST.

  • Baron

    this stinks! 3-8 at home!!! Once again, the Cubs are second from bottom in the National League(which, outside of the Mets and Braves is pretty much the sucks-ass league)



  • zach

    I can't believe this. I've never seen a team lose so many games this way. It's absolutely maddening.

  • Ben

    I don't remember an April so painful to watch! I wish we would just get beat by 5 runs every night. All these close games and we can't win a single one.

  • Ben

    You don't have to!

  • Anthony

    I honestly thought I had seen it all when Cedeno over ran the bag ON A WALK that, in part, caused us to lose the game the other day, but to see a pitch headed right at Soriano's hip and him swing for strike 3, takes the cake. With Sheets pitching on Wednesday, you have to hope to win tomorrow to salvage just one game in this series.

    Agustin, it's looking more and more like we'll be closer to 10 games under .500 rather than .500.

    I wear a size Large and I'll take a Lee or Pie Jersey please.

  • Anthony

    I won't even bother saying anything

  • Anthony

    Okay, I'll say it before it even come close to happening. THIS IS JONES CHANCE. He will be coming up in ANOTHER CRITICAL situation. Let's see if he can do something. If he does, I won't say a bad word about him for 2 weeks, I promise !!!

  • Trevor

    ........

  • Adam in Iowa

    Is this Villenueva's arm going to fall off sometime soon? He's thrown A LOT of pitches.

    Is that stat true about the LOB?

  • Adam, you are right the Cubs have not won a close game this year, 2 runs or less.

    Marquis pinch hitting...

  • Anthony

    Leadoff walks will kill you almost every time. Let's hope that this is one of those "almosts" and not "every time".

  • Baron

    Make that 40 men left on base in 2 days

  • Matt Haggard

    So, JJ Hardy reminds me of what the Cubs and Padres was hoping to get when they both drafted Khalil Greene. Hes a good player to have, always liked JJ.

  • Baron

    17 men left on base today. 21 on sunday.

    38 in 2 days. Thats real clutch!

  • Anthony

    Walk off HR someone ??

  • adam

    dont trust my accuracy on this, but i think kasper said the cubs are 0-7 in one or two run games this year????? this team has to freaking find a way to win a game

  • adam

    dont trust my accuracy on this, but i think kasper said the cubs are 0-7 in one or two run games this year????? this team has to freaking find a way to win a game

  • Anthony

    Okay, anyone who won't admit that was a GREAT play by Jones is ignorant. At the same time, people run at will against him...more than any other RF I have ever seen...sincerely. Also, he has 1 hit all year, ONE HIT, in a crucial situation. He is hitting .280something with only 3 RBI's...why? Because he is hitting like .150 (just estimating) with RISP. So to answer your question, yes I still cannot stand Jones.

  • Trevor

    NICE PLAY JONES! Now lets get some flippin runs and the W.

  • DMac

    who says JJ can't play defense? :)

  • Baron

    still hate JJ?

    that saved the game!

  • Baron

    Craig Counsell is a friggin cub killer.

    Why is Wuertz not pitching the 8th... Eyre and Howry both look v. v. shaky.. This is not good.

  • I lost count on the amount of "F-bombs" Piniella just dropped on Eyre...

  • O.K., I am hoping the two runs do not come back to hurt.

    Eyre has to start throwing strikes!!!

  • Fox

    Does anyone else think Scotty's troubles could be stemming from how fat he looks this year?

  • Cory

    AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

  • Cory

    Fox, that bunt looked like 5hit! It was popped up but the brewers f'd it up and Estrada was hurt on the play. Nice pitch to swing at Soriano with runners at 2nd & 3rd no out and you k on a pitch that hits you? Good God Floyd! Oh my Lord D-Lee K's...this team rocks! WTF????

  • Anthony

    Fox,

    Estrada, the Brewers catcher, got hurt. The bunt was very poor as he popped it up in the air and I still don't know how Estrada didn't catch it. It was a routing pop up. Fielder slid into his knees, but it didn't look severe to me.

    On a side note. I think it was the right call KO'ng Soriano. My question is, what in the world was he swining at. How can you be swinging at a pitch that is coming right at you ?

  • Fox

    I have to watch the game on gamecast and it said there was an injury delay. Who got hurt? And how did that bunt look by Pie?

  • Pie changed his number to 20

  • Anthony

    I was sick to see Ohman come in, and thinking the Lou had all but lost it (mentally speaking), but Ohman got out of the jam. While I still don't trust him, I will give him due props this one outing (so far that is).

  • Way to go Ohman!!!

  • What was wrong with that 2-1 pitch, too many walks...27 pitches in the 5th...

    Good ground out to get out of that mess.

  • Anthony

    I was VERY worried about that inning, especially since the ump called 2 strikes balls, with the first one right down the middle. Thank goodness Z didn't let it get to him.

  • Anthony

    ANOTHER good play by DeRosa, although between "you and me", Counsel was clearly safe. You won't hear me complain though. : )

  • Agustin Rexach

    Good Point Anthony.

    Hey one more run and the Brew Crew will have Zambrano right where they want him!LOL

    Man I hope he keeps it up and backs up his words.

    I don't mind players talking as long as they can back it up. Go ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

  • Anthony

    Let's look at who got hits this inning.

    Soriano, Lee & Ramirez. More proof that the lefty vs. righty match up is vastly overrated. Please keep Floyd & Jones OUT of the 2nd spot.

  • Anthony

    I know some have questioned the lack of power displayed by Lee, but he is hitting .366 and is our best player. I'll take him, his defense, leadership ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

  • Trevor

    Why Lee, why? Close play or not, look what that cost us after Ramirez's blast.

  • Trevor

    Nice to see what can happen when your leadoff hitters get on. Lets keep this up!

  • Agustin Rexach

    Hey Anthony that was my idea!!It would be the trick lead off hitter in the 9th spot. Just kidding, but I did thought of that and wrote it yesterday. And you are right DeRosa has done a superb job. Hope he keeps it up!

  • Anthony

    ps. I don't know if you were saying that tongue in cheek Aaron, but I agree with batting Zambrano in a different spot, although I would say 8th. Then again, I would have Theriot hitting 9th.

  • Anthony

    DeRosa has been pleasantly surprising defensively at 2B. He has also come through with some clutch hits, i.e. yesterday in the 9th, as well. Plus, 4 HR's and 13 RBI's from your 2B is not shabby.

  • Matt Haggard

    I didnt even see Blanco...I know he is in there to help Z pitch...But is it best to take out Mikey's hot bat right now? This is rediculous Lou...

  • Aaron

    I actually think Piniella should bat Zambrano behind DeRosa---give him a little protection

  • Aaron

    I think Piniella has Floyd confused for an effective hitter---like, say, Adam Dunn. Floyd is well, well past his prime, and serviceability IMO. I hope he proves me wrong, but he looks slow out there, he's awful in the OF, and in case you hadn't noticed, RF needs to be more athletic than LF. A starter like the young Vargas might've been just what Pie needed, rather than a seasoned starter. This lineup is getting absurd. Blanco and Izzy right in a row...You know you have a problem when your pitcher hits better than 2 of the guys in your lineup----combined. Hey, here's hoping for Zambrano to go 2 for 4 or 3 for 4 (we can all hope for the latter, b/c that'd take him deep in the game)...that's pretty sad when you say that for your pitcher..LOL

  • Trevor

    Prior is having exploratory surgery...I'm glad the Cubs are not depending on him this year and he also may very well be done career wise. However, I truly hope that this goes well for Mark and they find something that can be repaired so he can come back and pitch well again in the Bigs. Not this year of course, but still.

  • Matt Haggard

    I just dont understand why Izzy and Cedneo continues get the nod over Theriot..And Pie should either be sent down or played. I would prefer some OBP guys where Floyd is.


    If Lou wants to separate his lefties, hit Floyd lower, itll help turn the lineup more effectively I think.

  • Abby

    Bye Bye Pie - I miss you already.

  • The lineup for tonight's game:

    Soriano LF

    Floyd RF

    Lee 1B

    Ramirez 3B

    Jones CF

    DeRosa 2B

    Blanco C

    Izturis SS

    Zambrano P

  • Anthony

    Don't forget that with the off days, we won't need a 5th starter for awhile. That gives Guzman a chance to stretch out his arm. Cherry looked awesome during the spring and I'm glad he's up. Let's see if he can do it when it counts.

    I heard on ESPN that Soriano is in LF and leading off and Jacque Jones is playing CF. I hope they're wrong. That doesn't make sense to me, only in the fact that it was written in the Tribune that they want to give Pie a couple more days before deciding. If that is the case, don't you have to play him?

    As I said in a previous post. With Sheets not pitching until the last game of the series, and us facing their 2 worst pitchers (on paper), we have a chance to win at least 2 of 3. The important thing is executing this in the game. I'd much rather be facing Sheets up 2-0 in the seriess rather than the alternative. Here's to hoping Soriano gets going. By the way, it's dropped over 15 degreees in the last half hour here in NW Indiana. I'm guessing it's very cold there in Chitown, no ?

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Austin:

    True that as for the lon reliever. However, I don't believe that Guzman has been down in Iowa for the 10 day requiremnet. Also , he is being groomed for the 5th starter spot.

  • Austin

    Man, that really makes me mad they did that (wink wink)

    But seriously, rocky cherry over Guzman, i know he got beat up a lil in his start in AAA, but seriously...we need a long man...or a 5th starter?

  • JIm (Tinley Park)

    Neil:

    I hears on the score 670am that Wade Miller was placed on the 15 day DL and Rocky "Balboa" Cherry was called up. Miller has back spasm's (wink-wink)

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