A Q&A with Dayn Perry....Part II

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Yesterday the CCO ran part one of our Q&A with Dayn Perry. If you didn't get the chance to see it, go read yesterday's article for Dayn's thoughts on Lou Piniella, Alfonso Soriano, Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis....just to name a few.

Now, it's time for part two....

Chicago Cubs Online: Was Derrek Lee's MVP caliber season of 2005 a fluke, or do you think the Cubs can expect similar numbers in 2007?

Dayn Perry: I think it certainly was a career year, and I doubt we'll see that level of production from him again. That said, he is a guy who can slug better than .500, get on base, pick it at first, run the bases and tally 75 extra-base hits or so. I don't think Lee will ever repeat those 2005 numbers, but he is a very good player.

CCO: In one of your recent articles you mentioned Michael Barrett as one of the free agents for 2007. What do you think of Barrett and should the Cubs resign him?

DP: I was a bit of Michael Barrett agnostic for some time, but he's really had a nice three-year run with the Cubs. He'll be 31 when he hits the market, and while catchers tend to age more quickly than those at other positions, 31 isn't terribly old. Considering there's nothing at the catcher position in the minors, re-signing Barrett looks like a no-brainer.

CCO: The Cubs had a top 5 rated farm system 5 years ago, was the farm system overrated or did the Cubs overrate themselves? The Cubs did not trade that many prospects away but their prospects have made little to no impact at the major league level. Can you explain why?

DP: There's never really a satisfactory answer to this question. Projecting minor leaguers is a wildly inexact science, and we're wrong almost as often as we're right. In Corey Patterson's case, the organization rushed him, showed little patience with him once he did arrive, and then cut bait on him too soon (Patterson's a useful player, and I think he'll get better). In Bobby Hill's case, he was just overrated. Juan Cruz just couldn't harness any consistency. These things happen.

CCO: In your book, you mention terms such VORP, DER, FRAA, ISO and SNLVAR, among others. For those who have not yet read the book, can you explain any or all or these acronyms?

DP: I'll make things easier on all of us and point everyone to the Baseball Prospectus Glossary. I will, however, highlight two of my favorite non-traditional stats. DER is Defensive Efficiency Rating. It measures how often a team converts a ball in play into an out. While home parks can influence DER to some degree, it does provide an excellent thumbnail glance at how effective a team's defense is. ISO is Isolated Slugging Percentage or Isolated Power. It's simply batting average subtracted from slugging percentage. An ISO of more than, say, .220 means that a hitter is flashing lots of raw power. It's one of my favorite stats to look at when evaluating a minor league hitter.

CCO: Traditional stats have been replaced by stats that tell more accurately the ability of the player. What stat do you feel is the most important, offensively, for a position player? How about for a pitcher?

DP: There's not a magic bullet, and I don't often rely on the newer metrics when doing routine analysis. For hitters, I think you can do pretty well by looking at plate appearances in tandem with the Batting Average/On-Base Percentage/Slugging Percentage line while making qualitative adjustments for home park, quality of opposition and the position he plays (i.e., first basemen have a much higher offensive bar than shortstops do).

For pitchers, runs-per-game is a good place to start (while again taking home park and defense into account). ERA is fairly nonsensical because it rewards pitchers for having errors made behind them while penalizing pitchers who have fielders with bad range playing behind them. Beyond runs, I like to look at strikeout-to-walk ratio, home-run rate, groundball-fly ball ratio and more detailed scouting info (such as how well he's spotting his slider against the opposite side and that sort of thing).

CCO: Finally, how do you see the Cubs performing in the upcoming season? Any predictions for finishing order in the Central?

DP: The Central, once again, is going to be notably weak. The Cardinals have serious rotation issues and weren't a great team to begin with. The Astros are going to be without Andy Pettitte and (most likely) Roger Clemens, and they'll have one of the worst outfield defenses in recent memory. The Reds have no pitching, and the Pirates are the Pirates. Without peering too deeply, here's my ridiculously early prediction for the Central:

1 - Cardinals, 2 - Brewers, 3 - Cubs, 4 - Astros, 5 - Reds, 6 - Pirates

The Cubs certainly have a puncher's chance, mostly because the division is so weak. The annual refrain is that "if Prior can stay healthy enough to pitch x number of innings," and that's once again the case. The lineup is heavily right-handed, and they have OBP concerns; however, they will put runs on the board. They have three primary trouble spots: the rotation behind Zambrano, offensive production from the middle infield and team defense. Those are serious flaws, but, again, this is the NL Central. If nothing else, we should have a close raise with the division champ winning fewer than 85 games.

The CCO had fun with this one. Hopefully you liked reading it as much as we liked putting it together.

If you're interested in a serious look at how baseball teams become the best, pick up Dayn's book, Winners. It identifies and examines the elements of the game with a logical (and more importantly, understandable) approach.

  • nick

    Good post Gramps.

  • Ryan R

    Perry seems to fit the definition of a bean counter very well. While stats can tell you some of the story they can't tell it all, regardless of what he thinks. If that were the case, based on career numbers, the yankess would win every year and we all know how thats gone. And I wonder why he dosen't think Lee can post those kind of numbers again. He dosen't really give any reason why just says it.

  • jerljr

    very good post gramps.



    The most important thing is chemisty, positive attitude, momentum, confidence and getting some good breaks here and there. The small things that you mentioned that stats dont really convey(other that win loss) are what help these happen.







  • Gramps

    Very interesting interview.



    That said, time for Gramps to speak up!



    I am very happy that the Cubs were very active this year. We can all complain about length of contract, salary, etc. but it is not our money to spend. I would rather have it this way than to just sit and do nothing.



    And as far as predicting:



    Stats are very misleading. There is too much human input in a baseball season that can upset stats. Injuries, trades, slumps, etc. What it all comes down to is this: You have to have the team play together as a team. Baseball is a sport that has many individual statistics. But they are all for nothing if the team does not win. Does a batter get credit in his stats for advancing a runner by grounding out? Does he get any credit in his stats for taking an extra base with his aggressiveness? Does a catcher get any credit for calling a good game? How about taking a pitch so a teammate can steal a base? There are many instances like these.



    This is why I think our best move was getting Lou Piniella to manage. I think he has a way of getting through to his players. I would love to see them play as a team this year. And I am sure if they do, they will finally knock out all that crap about curses, etc.



    I want to see the Cubs win as bad as anybody, and for the first time in a long while I am optimistic about this year. When I see these people that are called "experts" on baseball, I laugh. Not a one of them can tell us who is going to get hurt, who is going to have a good or bad year, etc. It seems sports radio, television and print have many of these so-called "experts". Maybe that is why Gramps listens to more music in the off-season!!!!



    This is a fantastic site and I enjoy it very much. Keep up the good work!! And GO CUBS!!!!!

  • Ryan R

    I wonder what his predictions for last year were for the Cardinals?

  • AJ

    I hope Dayn Perry's predictions for the Cubs in 2007 are incorrect, but either way it was an interesting read. Thanks.

  • Dorasaga

    Hi, Cubs faithful. This is my first remark on this site, although I 've been a loyal reader. Thanks to the staff for putting up this wonderful site.



    Now, Let's look at the pitching stat Mr. Perry explained: ERA. This was devised in the turn of 20th century, using science or logic 100 yrs ago, to pull out responsibility of a pitcher-- an earned run being a pitcher's problem. Of course, nowadays we know better that fielding significantly affects the result of ERA; ERA doesn't tell us is a run is a result of hit (mispitched) or position player's error (pitcher not responsible).



    Anyway, with better stats like FIP or BABIP, with the latter still debated, results of ERA has defeated the purpose of ERA, and shows this stat nonsensical.



    Newer stats aren't complicate; calculating them is nothing more than plus-minus-times-divide. Any baseball fan can understand them. When we evaluate Cubs pitching, we should take note of these newer stats as well.

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