A Q&A with Dayn Perry

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If you're a baseball fan, you have certainly read something written by Dayn Perry. Dayn is a regular writer for FoxSports.com and Chicago Sports Review. He has also written for Baseball Prospectus and is currently working on a biography of Reggie Jackson. In his book Winners, Dayn offers a detailed and entertaining view of analyzing the game of baseball. Dayn illustrates how to look past traditional stats and examine how a baseball team actually wins games. And as the title reads, It's Not the Way You Think.

The CCO is thrilled that Dayn recently took some time to answer a few questions regarding the Cubs. Here is what he had to say....

Chicago Cubs Online: Last off-season you were one of the experts that did not like the moves, or lack of moves, the Cubs made and when the season approached you gave them a very low grade and correctly predicted a bad year. How do you feel they have done this off-season?

Dayn Perry: I think it's a mixed bag. I'll go into further depth on the major moves in a moment, but I'll summarize them all by saying the Cubs will be better. However, the moves they made won't return value on the dollar.

CCO: Was Lou Piniella the right move, or would the Cubs have been better off going with a manager like Joe Girardi and a youth movement?

DP: I think Piniella is a competent major league manager. I don't think he's a great tactician, but he stresses accountability, and that's important for the Cubs. After all, Dusty Baker, post-2003, was more about shared victimhood than anything else. I think Larry Dierker is the best-unemployed manager out there, but Piniella is a credible, defensible choice to manage the Cubs.

CCO: Why do you think the Cubs finally opened up the pocketbook this year, and not in previous years, when there were better free agents to be had, such as a Carlos Beltran or a Rafael Furcal?

DP: I'd say there are probably three reasons, two of them legitimate. One, in the process of wooing Piniella, there was a promise made that the Cubs would expand payroll. It's not codified in his contract or anything like that, but there was a tacit understanding that they'd be active on the market. Two, Jim Hendry's worried about his job, and these sorts of conspicuous moves at least give the illusion of progress. Three - and I don't entirely buy this one, but it's out there - is that the Trib is attempting to make the team a more lucrative commodity in advance of a sale. The real reasons, however, are the first two.

CCO: You are a proponent of the Blue Jays extending the contract of Vernon Wells. What are your thoughts and predictions for Alfonso Soriano?

DP: When the Soriano contract first came down the pike, I thought it was pretty bad. However, when other, worse deals were forged this winter (Gary Matthews Jr., Gil Meche, Juan Pierre, Barry Zito, Jason Marquis, etc.), the Soriano contract looked tolerable by comparison.

Eight years is obviously going to extend beyond the point of his usefulness, but Soriano does help the Cubs in the near term. In the outfield, I actually think his glove is a bit better than advertised. He has speed, and his tracking skills improved significantly as the season wore on last year. By no means is he an optimal center fielder, but he'll get by behind the strikeout-heavy pitching staff that the Cubs have.

Offensively, of course, he's excellent. If healthy, Soriano, Lee and Ramirez should combine for more than 100 homers in 2007. The worry for Cubs fans is whether Piniella will revive the idiotic practice of batting Soriano in the leadoff spot. The one thing Soriano doesn't do well is get on base, which is precisely what a leadoff hitter needs to do.

CCO: What do you think of the Mark DeRosa, Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis signings? And on the same note, why in the world did Gil Meche take just a little more money to play in, of all places, Kansas City, over becoming a millionaire with the Cubs and reuniting with Lou Piniella?

DP: DeRosa is fine as a reserve but stretched as a regular. He had nifty numbers in 2006, but those numbers stand in contrast to the rest of his career. He's 33, so it's not likely he's established a new level of ability. Expect him to come back to earth in 2007.

The Lilly signing is fine, but Wrigley isn't the right environment for him. Lilly's primary shortcoming is that the opposite side puts up good power numbers against him. Wrigley, of course, is a haven for right-handed power hitters, so Lilly figures to struggle at home. Overall, he should be a bit better than league average, but in the right park he could really thrive. Unfortunately, Wrigley isn't that park.

I'm aware Marquis is a change-of-scenery guy, but three years and $20 million to a guy with home-run issues and the worst ERA of any NL qualifier in 2006? Wow. Suffice it to say, he'll likely be all kinds of awful. Perhaps a move to the bullpen would help him out. Hitters sat on his fastball all season in 2006, so something needs to change.

As for Meche, it's a fool's errand to guess why a player chooses one destination over another. Maybe it was money, maybe it was comfort level, maybe the clubhouse guy reminded him of his uncle. There's no accounting for tastes, as the saying goes.

CCO: What is the national perception of Mark Prior and Kerry Wood? Do non-Cubs fans have a grasp of what injuries they have actually had, or is the perception that they will not pitch through pain?

DP: If there's a national perception, I think it's that the Cubs either have a lousy training staff or horrid luck. Wood's troubles, given his inconsistent, high-stress delivery and imprudent workloads as an amateur, aren't all that surprising. But Prior? Wasn't he supposed to have the "pitching mechanics of the gods"? There's concern that Prior's congenital shoulder malady may be more serious than initially believed, and that, of course, makes one wonder whether Mark Prior will ever be Mark Prior again. I hope so; he's a joy to watch on the mound when he's on.

CCO: Who is the most overrated Cub? Most underrated? What do you see being the Cubs' strengths and weaknesses going into the season?

DP: If Neifi Perez were still on the roster, this would be an easy one. For overrated, I'll go with Ryan Dempster. A pitcher with his control issues has no business working as the high-leverage reliever on the staff. For underrated, I'll take Jacque Jones. Good defense in right and a 2006 batting line of .303 AVG/.358 OBP/.528 SLG against right-handed pitching. He needs to be platooned religiously, but that's the manager's fault.

To be continued....

Part two of the Q&A with Dayn Perry will run on Tuesday with the topics ranging from Derrek Lee to the farm system to VORP to his very early prediction for the Central in 2007.

  • jerljr

    Yes, your right, I tend to be pesimistic until proven otherwise. And I hope they do. No harm done. Too many years of being a Cubs Fan. But I like the idea of Murton in the 2nd spot behind Soriano. He's a good situation hitter and contact hitter. Gives options to Lou for hit and runs(even though I dont think Lou is really that kind of manager, not alot of hit and runs and bunting people into scoring positions. Plus with Lee and Ramirez behind him they will have to pitch to him.

    If they pitch around Soriano and he can show some disipline(which is where I'm worried, If he wants to be a leadoff hitter he needs to learn this)there might be some good RBI situations for Murton.

    Out of all the prospects that have come up in the last few years, Murton is the one that I'm most excited about.

    Just everybody keep in mind, I say these things about Soriano in the first position because I believe he could possible end up with MVP number if he was put in the right situation for him. Which I believe would be batting second. I dont know for sure but I think all the other times he was moved out of the leadoff position he was batting in positions where he wasn't protected behind him. I know I saw a game once that he was batting 5th which I thought was a horrible position for him.

    The lineup is more than just a list of guys and the order they bat. Each position(at least from 1st to 5th) has particular charistictics that are essentual to the chemistry of a line-up. And there is a big difference between batting 1st or 2nd or 3rd or 4th. I think its something that is overlooked sometimes. And its important through the whole game, not just the first few innings.

    As gramp said. The little things is what win ballgames.

  • agustin

    jerljr & Neil, I did not meant "prejudice" like a racist or insulting comment. I meant it in a stereotype way. Sorry if it was missunderstood on my part. Jerljr I like reading your posts, just thought that one was too pesimistic but by no means I thought it was insulting to the player or to anybody.

  • jerljr

    Agustin, but I do agree with you on Murton. He has the potential to be the perfect number two. Dont know if he would have the reputation at first to protect Soriano but after a while they would learn to respect him.

  • jerljr

    Similar to Sammy in the way that, he has to have it his way. Regardless if its best for the team. But yes, he has not done anything personally to make me think this. I'm saying this from the comments that others have made on this website that he wouldn't have it any other way but leadoff. He very-well could be willing to bat second if the right situation came up. By no mean was it a prejudice comment. I even said that Sandberg was the same way. I'm not sure where you got that from but I'm sorry if you took it that way.

  • Jim(Tinley Park)....I am working on Gammons.

    Agustin, I do not think that Jerljr's comment was meant to be "prejudiced".

    Let me take this opportunity to tell everyone who posts comments on this site that if I feel there is a "prejudice" remark made, it will be removed immediately.

    Thank you in advance to everyone for your cooperation with this.

  • agustin rexach

    Hey jerljr...lighten up, I have two words for you

    MAT MURTON.

    This is my prediction, Murton will proove to be one of the 3 best player this team has will make the all-star and will be on the 2nd spot before the playoffs. [MARK MY WORDS]

    And please what kind of prejudiced comment is

    "Plus, he's starting to sound like another Sammy"?

    If Soriano gives us 5-6 "good Sammy years"; he can have it his way. Besides, he has not played or said a word yet.

    Note: I really agree on most of whats said on the first part of the interview. EXCEPT that Piniella is 100% more suited for the Cubs than Larry Dierker. He ain't got the ring to proove it and Piniella does

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Hi job, Neil & Dayn...

    I agreed with a lot of what Dayn said, especially regarding Dempster and DeRosa. I hope Piniella doesn't feel forced to play the loyalty card with Dempster, especially if Wood looks like an obviously superior choice to close the 9th out. On DeRosa...I have never liked this signing, because we handed the guy the starting job for no reason. I would have rather we traded some prospects to the Braves for Giles. Not sure how DeRosa is an upgrade over Jerry Hairston Jr., which isn't saying much.

    I am more optimistic on Marquis, and not so much through a belief in Larry "By God, Throw a Towel!" Rothschild, but rather because pitchers often do benefit from a change of scenery, even if only for a season or less (Jeff Weaver is a good example). Not sure if Marquis will be any use 3 years from now, but I have a feeling he is tradebait if Prior and/or Miller regain their form, and one of the young guys, like Sean Marshall, makes a case for a rotation spot.

    I am scared about Lily as well. Seems like Hendry sometimes brings in players with zero regard to how they do in: daytime games, at Wrigley historically, whether they are groundball pitchers, whether they field well with tall grass in the infield, etc...

    Looking forward to part 2 of the interview!

  • jerljr

    Plus, he's starting to sound like another Sammy. My way or no way. I hope I'm wrong.

    Leading off in the American League isn't the same as the national league. There's more bunting and moving people over in the National league at the bottom of the lineup. Where in the American league they got position players batting in the 9th spot and there is no need to do it as often.

    He's going to get walked alot in key situations. Unless they find someone to go in that second spot to back him up. Maybe Barrett. Who would you rather pitch against with the score tied in the late innings, or anytime, Soriano or Derosa,Izturis, or whoever else they put there.

    If they get someone to back him up it MIGHT be alright.

    I know what your saying about the psychological part. Sandberg was the same way. Anytime they batted him 3rd, he was horrible. But, Sandberg was better at batting in situations. Soriano is a free swinger.

  • jerljr

    If that's the case, then he will probably be a waste of money. He won't have the effect on the offense that everybody is expecting.

  • jerljr

    I take that back He'll strike out just under 200 times. In a full season his lowest SO total is 121

  • Nathanael

    I think you guys are ignoring the psychological part of all this. Have you looked Soriano's stats when he doesn't lead off? It gets in his head somehow. He thinks he's a leadoff hitter, and only a leadoff hitter, and thus so do I.

  • Jim

    jerljr I agree that we need a lofton type for leadoff and CF. But there is no-one to fill that spot. When Pie comes up nect season or later this season maybe we can put him in the leadoff spot but until then there is no-one to put in thay spot. i would love to have Juan leading-off and playing a CF with Soriano hitting 2nd. But that is not what we have and for the time being Soriano is the best guy we have for the leadoff spot. Yes HR's will not put us in the playoffs but having a 1-0 lead after your first batter will help win us games. Aaron is right that Soriano will only have one time that he will be guaranteed to leadoff an inning. How many times last year did Juan come up with guys on and hit into a double play or pop out to shallow outfielders? There will be plenty of times that Soriano will have guys on in front of him, the leadoff spot is not what I am worried about i tis the 2 hole. That spot is as important than the leadoff spot. You need a very smart hitter there and preferably a guy with some speed.

  • jerljr

    yes, pierre is your ideal "lead-off" hitter and yes, I would rather have him lead-off then Soriano. You can't win consistantly with a below average to ,hopefully, average pitching staff with homeruns alone. People need to be on when they're hit for them to be effective. It didn't work in 2004 and it wont work this year.

    Keep in mind we had a better pitching staff in 2004 then this one and we missed the playoffs.

    But, no I would rather have Soriano then Pierre on the team if that's what your asking. Just not leading off. I'm sorry but we still need a Lofton-type player to lead off.

  • jerljr

    Too answer your question, I would rather have Pierre leading off with Soriano behind him.

    MARK MY WORDS, with nobody worth a darn batting behind him in the 2nd position. Soriano will strickout close to 100 times this year. Come July we will be talking about how much Soriano strikes out and wondering why this offense isn't as good as we expected and Soriano was a waste of money.

    Which if he was batting second or third(prefer 2nd-this way if the lead-off hitter doesn't get on he can and steal 2nd to get in scoring position) batting with Lee and Ramirez behind him, team's will have to pitch to him. If this happens, you never know, he could have a career year, maybe even MVP numbers, forget 40 homeruns maybe even 50+ Maybe even earn every penny of that big contract of his.

    If we have no other choice, then we just dont have any other choice. But, he wont live up to the numbers that he could potentially have.

  • nick

    Sorry about that Ryan,

    I just read that post, it is kind of confussing, I meant me being an Ohio guy.

  • Jim

    Juan Pierre is the definition of a leadoff hitter. Would you rather have him hitting leadoff or Soriano with 40 Hr's & 40 SB's? Soriano will do fine in the leadoff spot. It will benifit our pitching staff to have a 1-0 lead after the first batter.

  • Ryan R

    Nick,

    Please don't take offense if your from the Queen city. Marty is not an Ohio guy. Marty is a Cincinnati guy. As an outsider that has lived here for 7 years and is married to an Ohio woman, there is a HUGE difference. How many times does his kid mention where he went to high school when he's doing games where the Reds aren't even playing? Only the tip of the iceberg, but enough said.

  • jerljr

    Aaron, I agree that the "lead-off" title is only guaranteed in the first position. But what your missing is that it means more then that. Maybe a better title would be 1st Position. Whats more important about a 1st position batter is that he gets on in front of the guys behind him, the sluggers. Plus, in theory, batting behind the end of the lineup, he will not come up with people on base as much. Plus, it takes the pitcher bunting a player over to second out of the equation all together. Because they will either int. walk him or pitch around him. Thats why he isn't a "lead-off hitter"

  • jerljr

    P.S. except for Ramirez. Good signing for the price. Oh, I also was going to mention that they overpaid for Soriano because they had to show that they were "dedicated" to winning. Might of lost Ramirez and Zambrano if they didn't.

  • jerljr

    I'm sorry but, I agree with most he said. Soriano isn't a "model" lead-off hitter. Just because his OBP is better when he leads-off then when he doesn't, does not mean he should lead off and those 40 homeruns that he his expected to hit will score about 20-30 less runs then they would in another position in the lineup.

    I agree with him about Dempster also, except that I dont think anybody thinks he is great so I wouldn't consider him overrated.

    Once again I think that Jacues Jones is getting undeserving critisism. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him stay, unless he really doesn't want to be here.

    As far as Lilly, I think there will be days that he will struggle in Wrigley(wind blowing out) but for the most part he will have "quality" starts that will keep them in games. This is the only thing that I really disagree with him on.

    And that major thing I agree with him on is that they wont get paid in full on the money that they spent. That's why I was hoping that they would make a good trade before the end of the season to make up for some of the money that they blew. But, at least they blew money instead of not spending. Its not my money so I can say that.

  • Aaron

    I think what's often overlooked about lead-off guys is the perception that they lead-off the entire game, when in fact it's only guaranteed, unless you have a perfect game going---that he'll lead-off just the first inning. True, I'll give you the fact that it's not a run producing position in the lineup, but if Marquis and Zambrano can hit---Prior as well if he's healthy, like they have in the past, and you'll only have 1 spot (Izturis) in the lineup with a weak bat.

    Essentially what that means is that Soriano still will have rbi opportunities that he didn't really have with the Nationals.

    Tell Marty to shove it.....why is it that everyone wanted the Red Sox to beat the curse, but nobody seems to want the Cubs to win in the media? Is it because our fans are loyal? What's the deal? Yeah, we're all long-suffering Cubs fans, but we're diehard-----we go out to games when the season is over in May. We stay for hours when it's virtually a given that the game will be cancelled due to rain. I think others are just jealous that no other team in the history of sports has a following like the Cubs.....that's a blessing.....others like to see it as a curse, but I think it's amazing that we have fans like that. That's true baseball fans for you. We come out rain or shine, below .500 or above----versus the lowly Pirates, or the mighty Yankees.

    Go Cubs!!!

    Dayn Perry and Marty Brennaman can suck it!!

  • nick

    Neil good job with the interview,

    I just cannot bring myself to like Perry after reading all of those articles and grades by him. I would really like to see what he would say when the Cubs won it all, would he still have negative words for them or would he join the band wagon like almost every other media outlet will do.

    Jim I agree, The front office does deserve alot of credit for the contracts the got with Lee and Ramirez.

    Ryan,

    Couldn't agree with you more on Brennaman, being an Ohio guy, I like it when the Cubs came to Cincy for the simple fact that I could always here to game on the radio no matter where I was or what i was doing, but I usually got tired of listening to him by the fourth or fifth inning, I would continue to listen of course.

  • clark Addison

    Brenneman's animus toward the Cubs probably dates back to his son's firing as Cubs tv broadcaster because he didn't get along with Harry Caray.

  • Ryan R

    I'm sorry, I know that he's a respected play-by-play guy in this town, but the more I listen to him the more upset I get. He's a great guy in the community and such but when the Cubs are in town he gets arrogant. Of course everybody here does because the stadium is mostly blue in this bandwagon town. He also thinks that Pete Rose can do know wrong. While a great player, as a person Pete is a bum. Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Ryan:

    In regards to Brennamen, Go for it! I hope you heckle the old man into oblivion. I agree, keep Soriano at lead-off were he is most productive.

  • Ryan R

    The thing I don't get is that he thinks that batting Soriano leadoff is insane. His numbers prove that he has his highest OBP when he does. Its not as high as you'd like for a leadoff guy, but then most leadoff guys aren't going to hit 40 HR's.

    Further proof about what I said before about the media hating the Cubs. The other night here in Cincinnati, Marty Brennamen had his live talk show at one of the local bars. He took questions and flat out said it didn't matter who the Cubs signed because they were doomed anyway. You know, i used to like the guy but he's starting to get on my nerves. Hopefully my for the couple of games that I get seats right under his press box I can turn and ask him who's doomed now?

  • Jim (Tinley Park)

    Neil:

    Nice piece of work. Perry, is not a fan of the Cubs

    and I could see how he would be critical of the amount of cash that Lilly and Marquis are getting along with the longevity of Soriano's contract. Other teams would have paid the same or more and he KNOWS IT! But, with the way contracts are going, the Aramis Ramirez and Derek Lee deals are BARGAINS!!! I think he should throw the front office some props for that.

    Is there a Q & A with Peter Gammons on the horizon?

  • Will

    Great interview so far with DP. As a biased Cub fan I've never liked him as he always seems to have some sort of beef with the Cubs. I guess he has never watched a game in which Jones has played because he claims he is a good defender. If you consider being able to hit the cut off man in less than three bounces a good defender than maybe...

  • Ryan R

    I wonder how DP would feel about Soriano and Lilly if the Yankess had signed either or both of them. I'm pretty muched convinced after years of watching the Cubs that the media and so called experts wouldn't put them at the top of the league no matter how good an offseson they had. Not saying he's completely wrong, and may in fact turn out to be completely right, but not sure anything would make him or any other "expert" happy.

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