Ramirez Declined Cubs Offer

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Updated - 10:00pm C.T. - Aramis Ramirez has declined the Cubs offer and will test the market
Updated - 11:51pm C.T. - With a Report from the Chicago Tribune about Ramirez

According to a report just under a half an hour ago by Ken Rosenthal on Fox Sports.com, Aramis Ramirez has rejected the Cubs offer and will test the free agent market.

Update - According to Rosenthal's report the Cubs could have avoided the opt out clause in the contract Ramirez signed in 2005. It would have cost the Cubs an additional $10 million dollars on top of the $42 million dollar contract he signed.

According to Rosenthal the options for the Cubs at 3rd base in 2007 are Aubrey Huff, Mark DeRosa, Pedro Feliz, Aaron Boone and David Bell. Rosenthal did not mention the possibility of Nomar Garciaparra returning to Chicago. The Cubs will have an additional $22 million dollars on the books for the next 2 seasons with Ramirez apparently heading west to either the Dodgers or the Angels.

Ramirez deciding to test the free agent market should come to no surprise, if he was not planning that from the beginning he would have not opted out of his contract. The Cubs said they were planning on renegotiating his deal and if that is the case and Ramirez still opted out then he did not plan on staying in Chicago.

Jim Hendry has backed himself into a corner. He has to make a HUGE splash now, just not a big one. He is not sending the right message to the Faithful, whether you wanted Ramirez back or not, the Cubs not resigning him is not the message this organization needs to be sending out right now. Although the Cubs are for sale....they must be buyers at this point, open up the checkbook and instill some faith that the organization is taking steps forward....not backwards as it appears.

There have not been any updates on either Kerry Wood or Juan Pierre as of 10:20pm C.T. This article will be updated after the free agent period begins in just under an hour.

Update - 11:51pm C.T. - According to a report by Paul Sullivan in the Chicago Tribune, the Angels are expected to offer Ramirez a contract as early as Sunday. The Cubs were thought to have offered Ramirez a 5-year, $70 million dollar deal. The Cubs still think Ramirez wants to return but remember this is the same agent, Paul Kinzer, as Rafael Furcal. Sullivan reminded everyone of the remark that Hendry made last year at the Convention about the deal that Furcal signed....Hendry called the deal (for Furcal) absurd.

Many think that Juan Pierre will not return and there is nothing new to report on his status....but without too much speculation, his days as a Cub appear to be over. And then there is Kerry Wood, nothing new on that front....either. The rumor mill is sure to be in full swing in just a couple of hours.

Let's hope Hendry is working the phones, email and faxes tonight.

  • Hubert

    Jason B: Go on foxsports.com...Ken Rosenthal reported it bout an hour ago.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Hubert, what are you talking about...Ramirez staying?

  • Hubert

    Doesn't matter, Ramirez is staying...thank GOD. --;

  • Larry B

    I was just checking out the free agents list and came across a few good replacements for A-RAM. First how about that firecracker Scott Spiezio, he did replace Rollen when Rollen slumped. Second Fernando Tatis, it seems that all he needs is playing time.Tatis has been used as a bench player for the O's but has really had the "pop" at the plate when they needed it. Now thirdly Shea Hillenbrand, he is a on again off again kinda guy with a big bat at times.Hillenbrand and Nomar would be a good rotation at third. Does anyone remember when we got A-RAM from the Pirates, the question with him was at the end of the year what would he have more errors or homers. We made him what he is today, we gave him a chance when NOBODY IN THE LEAGUE WANTED HIM. Be gone with him,look foward to our new challenge at third.

  • Zip

    I agree with Trevor....Ramirez can take a hike, as far as I am concerned. He isn't worth big bucks...his lack of effort is well-documented...and, if some other team is that easily swayed, they can have him. He didn't care enough to hustled when he was here; so, why should care if he returns?

    Let's get a third baseman who wants to play for the Cubs....to heck with Aramis Ramirez.

    Who needs him?!?

  • baron

    Herein lies the real curse of the cubs. It has nothing to do with a goat. It has to do with the belief that they can underpay and retain their top-tier talent. In addition, they trade away their farm talent(Dontrelle Willis etc) to get mid-tier talents.

    So they neither get top free agents, nor keep their good farm talent.

    As for Nomar --- De Ja Vu anyone? What happened when he was here last?

    I wonder if this is all truly in Hendry's hands -- ie - Being in a desperate position in terms of his career, I doubt he would have held back dishing out the moolah. Or he is complete moron.

  • Hubert

    I could give a crap if he has hustling problems. Who cares when your team is 20+ games under .500..he isn't paid to hit singles, he's paid to knock the ball out of the park.

    Also, the pitching market is VERY thin. We will probably only get 1 big name pitcher, and even then our offense is down one of its two big boppers. Every other position has holes. Even if you sign C-Lee or Soriano, it is still a wash, you are back where you started because you lost a power hitter and then gained one.

  • Trevor

    Screw Ramirez. He always thought he was better than he was, he never hustled, and he obviously is only concerned about the money this season. I can't wait to see the ridiculous amount of money some other team will be overpaying for him next year. Also, I want big name signings as much as the next Cubs fan, but I'm not ready to declare myself an ex-Cub fan if they don't sign Soriano or Lee. Those names, and most of the other big names, are on every other team's radar as well and guess what, only two teams will get them while everyone else loses out. Yes, this is disapointing that A-Ram is leaving. But its not the end of the world, he is NOT the best 3B is the league. If the Cubs get quality starting pitching this offseason, Aramis Ramirez will be an afterthought.

  • Hubert

    Now they lost the best 3B in the league along with their cleanup hitter who was one of the positives the Cubs had. Now they have holes everywhere except for 1B , SS, C, and their ace pitcher..

  • Cliff...I agree with you about Nomar.I would like to see him back in Chicago, but as a utility player and not one they depend on to play and produce on a daily basis.

    One of the reasons I keep bringing up Nomar is because of the mainstream media. And second because I think he could be a very valuable part to a team's bench.

  • jeffnokla

    jason you are correct and there is no other comparable 3b on the market. I'm just saying good ridence because i hate liars, granted JH was an IDIOT giving the "OPT" out clause.

    2006 offseason moves

    Lose Pierre & ARAM

    add Dave Roberts (yippie)

    add david bell (another yippie)

    add & name a new manager because LOU will quit before spring training & who could blame him.

    DLEE better have a 400 average, 50 hrs, 200 rbi's and Zambrano better go 30-0 for us to have a chance.

    Here in 2 months, I already have my NEW YEARS RESOLUTION, "DONT TRUST JIM HENDRY, to get things done". I hope ARAM goes to the royals, i really do

  • cliff

    Cubs 2006 Offseason

    Key Losses:

    3b Aramis Ramirez

    CF Jaun Pierre

    SP/RP Kerry Wood

    "Key" Additions:

    3B Mark Bellhorn

    LF Luis Gonzalez

    CF Gary Matthews Jr.

    SP Vicente Padilla

    SP Miguel Batista

    2007 Result - Less wins than 2006

    Thanks JH...

    Happy F'ing Holidays!

    p.s. Nomar has only played over 125 games 2 times in the last 7 years. He is not the solution!!

  • Aaron

    season's over....unless we get AROD, Soriano, or C Lee, I will no longer be a Cubs fan...or if Hendry is fired before the year starts---then I might think about it. But this is re-damn-diculous. How he could let this happen, I don't know. And how stupid can we get to include a no-trade AND opt-out clause in a contract. I've said it before and I'll say it again----ARAM and Kinzer had absolutely no intention of resigning with the Cubs and Hendry should've done what Coletti did to Drew and Boras and tell them to shove it up their ass. ARAM will leave a huge hole, but he didn't carry the team like D Lee...Isn't it curious that ARAM started turning it on when the season was lost and put up big numbers? Curious, huh?

  • Jim

    We still have until midnight ET.................

  • Jim

    Never said that Aramis wasn't good. I said that I don' think he is as good as he thinks. If we gave Aramis "Beltran" money, it would hurt us in a couple of year becasue he is going to get a no-trade clause in his contract. No matter who he goes to. Adrian Beltre ring a bell. Giving any player that kind of money handicaps a team, unless you are the yankees.

    Man did we eat up that load of crap they were feeding us about adding 10-15 mill to the cap. More like they are unloading so they can sell the team.

  • Jason B. in AZ

    Jeff & Jim,

    Name a better 3B in the NL...

    Despite Derrick Lee's incredible year in 2005, Aramis has been more productive over his past three full years than Lee has. If Ramirez had never been with the Cubs, and was just a free agent, like Soriano, I guarantee this website, and most Cubs fans in general, would all be begging Jim Hendry to sign Ramirez, even if it took "Beltran money".

    Sometimes you really don't know what you got, until it's gone (thanks to Cinderella for that one) and I believe that will be the case with Ramirez.

    I can handle him leaving IF he is replaced with a quality bat, and NOT a David Bell or Jeremy Burnitz caliber of a player.

    Again, though, by not simply paying Ramirez and keeping 3B from becoming yet ANOTHER area of need for this offseason, Hendry has made his job more difficult.

    If you paid Ramirez the Beltran-money, you could unload him to the Yankees or Red Sox anytime you wanted...so what is the risk...what is the downside?!?!

    Face it..the Tribune's payroll may be high, but that is only because they overpay for the mediocre or bullpen talents (Neifi, Rusch, Eyre, Howry, etc...) and NOT because they pay for the big-time players. Derrick Lee is the only exception, and before Lee, Sosa was the only other. Kerry Wood was paid fair market value (at the time) and Hendry has "tried" to land Furcal, Beltran, Tejada, and a whole bunch of other superstars by lowballing them with contract offers, or by lowballing their teams with trade offers.

    If you want to impress people with your bargaining skills, then goto a flea market and come away with 14 items for $12...but don't try to run a MLB franchise in the same manner.

    I doubt the Cubs will win any of the Japanese bids, because they will lowball it there as well...but at least Hendry will show up at the convention, with Cesar Izturis and Roberto Novoa at his side, and claim that despite not signing Ramirez, Pierre, or Wood, and despite actually having a payroll about $20 million lower than last year, that he and his scouts firmly believe that Ryan O' Malley, Sean Marshall, Carlos Marmol, and Ronny Cedeno are REALLY going to do GREAT things in 2007, and that he "reserves the flexibility to make deals at the deadline as needed".

    blah.

  • Jim

    If Aramis wanted to stay he would have signed. He and his snake(agent) have been lieing since they signed this contract. We can still sign him but it will cost about 90-95 mill. See ya later Aramis. You are not as good as you think you are. Would have been nice to have kept him but whoever pays him it will hurt that team badly. You will see.

    Hendry has the rest of the off-season to gain my confidence back in him. If we start the season worse off than last season, he needs to get the boot.

  • JeffnOKLA

    Good F????? ridence!!!!

  • jim (Tinley Park)

    Nice to see Jim Hendry has kept his streak alive in not signing big ticket free agents.

    2006 Ramirez

    2005 Furcal

    2004 Beltran

    This goof with the unkept hair and lousy wardrobe should be canned NOW!!! You know he will fall short in the Soriano and Lee sweepstakes. Piniella probably wants to go Park Ridge and bitch slap this

    clown into next week. Welcome to Hendry, Lou.

  • Jason B. from AZ

    Shades of 2005...now Hendry will waste a large portion of this offseason, as he did with Sosa a few years ago, and we will wind up with a Jeremy Burnitz type player at 3B.

    How this improves the Cubs, I do not know.

    How a GM with "all the resources he needs" to win a World Series can't sign his star 3B, is beyond me.

    What now...? Sign Miguel Batista and a couple guys from Japan?!

    Good luck resigning Zambrano, Tribsters, if you CONTINUE to look for hometown discounts, instead of paying FAIR MARKET VALUE for your own players!

    I can see it now..the 2008 faces of the Cubs will be Carlos Marmol and Ronny Cedeno...anyone excited about that?

  • cliff

    un-be-f&@$*ing-lievable

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